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How popular is this site now - is it as popular as it was? Answered

I know this site used to be quite a hive of activity, however, would I be right in saying it is declining in popularity, ie instructables posted and volume of people viewing them? If so, where are people going instead?

Any stats to prove or disprove? 

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Some valid and good posts here. A few observations if I may, as a newcomer here:

-1- People seem friendly, which is refreshing
-2- Lots of replies to this thread, which is great, proves activity in the forum is healthy
-3- This site seems to be increasing a bit month on month on viewings (from the link given) which is excellent
-4- I don't know how exactly, but if it things were re-designed to sub-categorise more, and WIP forums, etc, it might bring in more activity

BTW - what are the types of things people are most likely to view here in big numbers? Obviously it depends on how well you write the instructable up and pics, etc; but what are the sort of things that capture the most attention here, more often than not? I've posted two instructables so far and not had many hits! *cries*

Bac, you're still focusing too much on the forums at this place. I know you like forums, but you're watching the bleachers when the game is in the field. ;)

All the conversation happens in posting the Instructable, and then in the comments that follow. :)

Like I said before, portablizing has a very small base here right now (consisting only of my NESp Insructable. :P ) and so not many people are going to search for things relating to portables.

Give it time. ;) Meanwhile, if you have any general project ideas, go ahead and post them. You can make yourself known by posting comments on Instructables, maybe with questions or ideas on how to improve.

Fair enough, thanks for the advice.

It will be interesting to see how my instructable is greeted for the N64 system start to end video project. I will need a lot of time to take screenshots and document it properly before uploading here, once the project is completed. If that ible doesn't get attention here, then none of my projects will!

If you want, before you actually publish, ask one of the regulars to take a look at it.

Most of us would be happy to help.

Wll short and easy titles are your friend. Especially when your 'ible doesn't get featured you need short and easily understandable titles. I'd go with Caitlins Dad suggestion.

Also if you don't have something that the general public likes and wants to make don't expect many views. I have an 'ible on making a sketchbook that didn't get featured and it has around 402 views and has  been around since januari 10 (so you have more views then me in a shorter period).

And like I said before, getting featured is the sure thing for many views. My rubik's companion cube ible has generated 6994 views since december 24! (didn't really knew up until now :p)

But remember: in the end it's not about the pageviews, it's showing the people something cool and getting positive reactions from it. And above that it's all  about the fun you have building it :)

Oh and you say two ibles but I only see one...

Thanks for the advice, i'll remember that next time.

Forgot to "publish" the second one, done now! 

You might want to just title your ible "Hack Li-ion powerpacks" or something simple. Catchy titles sometimes help, especially if there is a pun, but don't look at me.

Good point, why can't people post guides in English (as the international language after all) and also post it, maybe on the same guide, in their own language? No reason I can think of that you shouldn't post on the same page in two languages, and it would also make the site "more international" in the process. 

 What I want to say is, that it is not valid that an American site like Instructables is " for sure" an international site because of the english language.
Even when this website is visited by many people of other nations/ languages will not say it is an international (global) site. In Europe we got the question; what is a good 'europeen' website? Michel is right, it's in the social media; forums, blogs, community, etc. And yes, with with my very dutch language door, for free. Multi-language instructable's should be a great option.
I made some instructable movies on YouTube. That is not done in a couple of hours. Making a good instructable starts before making the project. It has to be scripted, edited, before and not after the project. It's the eye of the instructor, making a good instructable. It satisfy's me having much views, better are the comments, though.

There are a number of bilingual instructables on the site.  Not many, but they exist.

Your point about internationality is a valid one, which is why people who post in poor English (including "text speak") get poor comments.

The site is natually American in bias, being started by Americans.

Since there are far more people who speak English as one of their languages than any other, it is natural to publish most projects in English.


Well because it takes a huge amount of time.

If you want to write a good instructable your busy for a couple of hours (picking good pictures and writing good sentences). At least for me it is...

Now imagine you have to write that instructable again but this instructable is only good for like 100 people. 100 people who could have just read the English version and be on their way. Because believe me if you are not set with understanding on the English language you will have a hard time on the internet and you'll probably wouldn't have found this site...

It's not like you just have to typ over the sentences word per word it's really hard. My mind is set in English when I typ this so if I would need to translate this in dutch it would take me some time, perhaps even more time then it took to write this.

What I would encourage is that their is a setting available in your settings that let's you select your motherlanguage. When I select Dutch it will come under my usersname on every 'ible I made so people will know that they can pm me in dutch if they have more questions. This would certainly help improve communications.

In terms of popular I'd say were very popular.

6.5 million people visit the website per month global while last year this was only 3.4, that's almost double!

And each day I see around 20-30 new instructables (with 5-10 featured) so I can't say the site is doing bad.

But what is a problem I believe is forum activity. The people on this site don't really talk to eachother. In the forum section (which I regularry pass) I always see the same people, Dr What, Fungus, Lithium Rain, Kiteman, Rock of soldier, Lemonie and many other people that are known by everybody on tthis site. But in all fairness these people are like 10-20. So we should try to make the forums more appealing and encourage people to build stuff.

Making forums where people post the stuff their doing (pictures of WIP), what they would want to make. I know some of these already excist but nobody visits them I'm afraid and one of the other problems is is when a topic is not answered enough (like not in three days) it dissapears of most people's radars and I won't search for that one in the huge topic numbers....

A "work in progress" forum section is a good idea, especially if people need help or ideas.

I do know, though, that some people like to keep their up-coming projects secret until the moment of publishing, especially for contests.


Totally agree on the contest secrecy. I dont like my ideas being stolen a few days before publishing either.

But I think its safe to say that most ibles come out outside contests.

And nobody is forcing them to post so they are free to do so as they please.

I would encourage that if it should be decided to open such a forum that it is a topic like art and craft and such as WIP covers many domains and spliting those up in their respective forums would be a majortimeloss for anyone looking to help...

I would be thinking it is more popular and is growing.  The world never goes without enough DIY.  And not to mention that I saw an ible with over 400,000 views in less than 2 months after it was posted.

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I feel Instructables is not an international site. It's highly anglo/american, without much attention for the problems non-english speaking/writing people encounter posting their project. I am from the Netherlands and language is a problem. Not that I can't speak or write english, but it's a specific thing writing instructions or a manual for a (most) technical project.  It's hard to find help by translating projects in the format of this site. So the threshold to share a project is very high. On the other hand I think their is a high international potential in people who invent new things or ways. Because there are not that many countries/languages who have this kind of of instructables site's. For the whole German speaking part of Europe there is only expli.de They got the same problem getting neighbour language people involved in posting projects. So people don't go anywhere else, they give up posting. Please, find other ways making it easy to post projects, lower the threshold and think more global. I hope to get some commentaries of other 'non-anglo inventors'

If you ever want your ible checked Bertoa, I'd be happy to read them and point out any incorrect English before you publish them. Same goes for anyone else :)

Thank You Jayefuu, maybe that's the help I need and maybe others will appreciate  this too. I had not in mind to 'condemn' Americans for their 'language
laziness'. It's to put more attention to the fact that it takes much time to explane a project in 'technical english' for "foreigners". A helpdesk like you are offering is in my opinion a solution. 

.  There is at least one person on Ibles who uses a "foreign" language in his iBles - rimar2000. Maybe it would be worthwhile for non-English-speaking people to form a group where they could discuss language-related problems and make suggestions to Robot on how to handle "foreign" languages.
.  Personally, I'm a typical Ugly American who only speaks English, so any iBles without an English translation will be Greek to me. :)

I only speak English too, i'm English, so as per stereotype, lazy on languages (English, or American English to be exact) is the international language anyway, so works out well!  lol

I see no reason why non-English speaking people here shouldn't upload their projects and have both languages posted on each instructable step they write - that way it gets exposed to a wider audience.

On topic, am I right in saying this community used to be far larger and active than it is now? Is it dwindling now? Is there another site as good as this one is? (curious). 

Wait  a minute! An American who only speaks english is "lazy" or "ugly" because he can't cater to the 6900 other languages on this planet? Aren't these speakers of other languages just as guilty of being ugly and lazy since they haven't learned to speak english?

.  I've read (but don't remember where) that most ppl on Earth are multilingual. The most notable exceptions being the vast majority of ppl in the US. Don't know for sure if that's actually true, but it sounds about right. Eg, standing in a "zocalo" in a small MX town, my Mother turned to me and asked "Why can't they learn to speak English?"
.  I don't think anyone expects Americans to learn 6900 other languages, but one or two would be nice. Most "foreigners" I know can speak at least two (one in IL is fluent in four and can get by in several others) - they don't always pick English from the 6900 choices. ;)
.  PS: I didn't coin the term. Unfortunately, it does apply to many of my fellow Americans. :(

This is in no sense written to generalize people but this is what I encounterd living in Belgium (Europe, that small country between the Netherlands, Luxembourg, Germany and France)

My country is split up in 3 language regions (dutch, french and german) so we need to speak all these three languages. Other then that is that English is the international language so we speak that to (although my writing sucks)

So I speak four languages. And if I encounter any people speaking these languages I help them out in their language or I try to. If I can't I switch to English. But that's just the Belgians. We try to help you in your language.

My sister has some exchange students that came to Belgium to learn here for a couple of days and they actually damn us for speaking English all the time! Even when going to a baker they are helped in English. But they say if we should come to America we shouldn't expect it the same way...

So it's kind off in our nature to do that. And also if you have the international language I would also get kinda lazy with trying to speak other languages.

But what I do find is, if you want to live in my country and you live in the dutch part you have to learn dutch. None of that I no speakie dutch stuff (although we'll probably still help you in your language...)

Sorry for the rant :)

.  There does seem to be a little less traffic the last few months, but I'm guessing that is because of school. My guess is that Summer (N hemi) is the busiest time for Ibles.
.  There are sites that publish traffic stats for most Web sites (IIRC, there's even a topic about it with links to Ibles' stats). You should be able to figure out what you're wanting to know there. I don't seem to be able to find the sites or the topic right now. :(

ok, ok,   I am working on mine.....just give me some time   LOL 

 Just hitting "all" lets you see how much it has gone up.

I don't think that it's less popular, I just think less people post stuff. (They read topics or intructables, they just don't post anything, or barely at all)

If you look on the main page, I'm sure you'll see a lot of people who recently became pro members who you never heard (of) before.
(I guess in a sense of thinking, you could say it's less popular since a lot less people post now.)