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How to convert 12v dc to 24v ? Answered

Is there easy way to convert 12v to 24v.Found some circuit diagrams to increase voltage but dont know they are working.

I brought a snail horn for my motorbike but it's sound very low. i know my motorbike battery is the reason for this, I need to increase voltage to make my motorbike horn louder.

i'm currently testing 555 timer voltage doubler circuit on 123d circuits.  You can simulate it here  555 timer voltage doubler

Give me a straight answer for this.. 

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iceng

2 years ago

Just drew this up for you using an isolation 12v control 400cps transformer.

Really any isolation control xfmr will work but less efficiency. If you use 40Amp mosfets you wont need as much heatsink.

POWER 12--24VDC.bmp
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AhmadM184iceng

Answer 3 months ago

hello Mr

this is circute; how many watt can give us ?

because i need 24 volt dc 444mA 10 Watt

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icengAhmadM184

Answer 3 months ago

Hello to u 2..

If you look at the circuit numbers the transformer primary is 12V @ 8 amperes powered by two 20 amp MOSFETs... That means you can get secondary 24V @ 4 amps,

As a SQ wave 400 Hertz AC that is 96W available watts.. Which you can rectify if DC is what u want and did not specify..

If u use a less powerful Transformer that will be less available since u only need 500ma.

How much can your battery deliver ??

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ishan udyogaiceng

Answer 2 years ago

hey.. thnks for this diagram .. how many amps gives in output, my horn needs 48 watts.so 5x12=60 .I dont think my battery gives me exactly 60w it drops 15w or 10w power . is this diagram work for this...

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icengishan udyoga

Answer 2 years ago

Happy to hear your horn will work.

Current_I = Power / Volts = 48w / 24v = 2 amps or just 4 amps to run your horn on 12 volts...

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icengiceng

Answer 2 years ago

And now you only need a 2A transformer, I assume intermittent horn use.

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Nawaz Ali ujjan

5 months ago

what I used zener diode for double voltage 12v to 24v

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Downunder35m

2 years ago

Question: Is the horn rated for 12V or for 24V?
If it is for 12V than doubling the voltage is a big NO-NO!
If it is for 24V it will impossible for your little battery to supply the current required.
Keep in mind that if the horn only needs 8amp to sound properly you will need to supply at least 16 amp from your 12V battery to the buck converter - and it is hard to find a buck converter for these power levels.
Usually electric horns have a little adjustment screw that controls the vibrations of the metal disk inside - mark the position and try if you get a better sound by adjustng it, if not set back to the mark.

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ishan udyogaDownunder35m

Answer 2 years ago

Thnks for the help.. horn is supported for 12v and 24v. my motorbike battery is 12v 5A . i did adjust that screw but didnt worked. any ideas...

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Downunder35mishan udyoga

Answer 2 years ago

Ok, let me rethink this one...
Usually they are either for 12 or 24V not both unless they come with the corresponding electronics or seperate connections.
So yours should then have 3 terminals: Ground, 12V, 24V - if not I would simply assume it is 24V only.
Connect it to a good sized car battery, if in doubt directly with some thick wires - if there is no sound you won't make it work on your bike either.
If it does work on the car but not on your bike you can still substitude for the missing amps:
Get a supercapcitor as used for car audio equippment - the big cans with huge terminals and a display for the voltage.
Connect parallel to the battery and use the output from the capacitor with a switch for the horn.
It mow should be able to get over 20amps for a short time burst - enough to make a lot of noise.

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steveastrouk

2 years ago

Increasing voltage with a doubler won't help if you can't increase current too. You really need a proper boost switching regulator