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I shot myself with a bb gun......HELP! Answered

I accidently shot myslef in the hand with a bb gun. I now have a .177cal copper bb lodged a few centimeters in my palm, just under my middle finger. Its restricting any movement of that finger and hurts alot. Besides seeing a doctor, does anyone have any suggestions?

*24 hour update*
Hey dudes, thanks for all of your helpful suggestions. I would go to the ER but I'm deadly afraid of doctors, nurses, dentists, and the like. So, at about 4:45pm (pacific time) today, I attempted to extract the bb myself. first off, I took and hanful of cottonballs and stuffed them in my mouth to muffle the screaming. Then, I went at it with an ear-wax remover I picked up from the local chinese pharmacy.

*48 hour update*
At about 8:00am this morning, I succesfully extracted the bb with a small wire fashioned into a loop <=========. yeah, sort of like that. Needless to say, it hurt a bunch. It is now 11:30am same day, and my hand is already feeling better (duh). And (though still painful) I can move all of my fingers. The way I see it, I'll be totally healed in a few days. Hopefully.

*One Week Update*
Its been about one week from the day I shot my hand and I'm happy to report that I am now without pain and Infection-Free. Thanks everybody for all the helpful suggestions. Even though in the end I used my own way of dealing with the problem.


shouldn't it be a 48 hour update? Anyways, glad to hear your hand is now BB-free and you can move your fingers, even if you did accomplish this in the most ill-advised of ways. Be sure to keep it as clean as possible. You are at extreme risk for infection, and infections can be far more damaging than the initial wound itself.

He really still needs to see a doctor.... If it was going to get infected... it's already happened and incubating.... Especially if it was in there for more than a day o.0 The doctor will probably just write a script for antibiotics. In any case... I hope the significant risk of loosing your fingers was worth "muffled screaming."

antibiotics wouldn't be good...he just needs to keep it extremely clean by using some of that stingy stuff, keep it bandaged. How big is the wound? Big enough to benefit from stitches?

I'd be pooring Hydrogen Peroxide into the wound... Being one of the hundreds of thousands of US Americans that earns too much to have government supplied healthcare, but not enough to be able to afford medical coverage, a doctor would be about the last thing I'd search out.

Being in the US means that every doctor (at every -hospital-, ER or general admission) is required by *law* to treat you, even if you cannot pay.

Sure, you will get a bill that will last forever...

...but you'll be alive.

Sorry... I don't believe in using anyone's services that I cannot afford, unless it's a mater of life and death. I assure you that if I had a heart attack, I would be treated up to the extent that I might die without a lot of pain. I would not be treated as someone that could afford a transplant or an incarcerated criminal.

That's not the gumment's decision though. The bottom line is that it's *there*. So, please, don't go spouting about how you earn too much to have government supplied healthcare but not enough to afford coverage..

Because coverage is still *physically* there. I think what you may have meant to say was that you do not earn enough to afford the *level of* coverage *you* desire.

Which still, don't get me wrong, stinks. I've been there before, believe me. Dental plans anyone?

It is the government's decision. This government is so proud that they've managed to institute National Heath Care in Iraq, but don't think it's important in their own country. Of course it's not important. The people in charge, don't need it!

I have No coverage. Like hundreds of thousands of other legal citizens of this country, there is no coverage physically there. No level of anything. If, for some reason I need emergency care and it is deemed indeed an emergency, I will get it. Of course, I will have to pay for it afterward at the expense of my home and lifestyle. Afterward, I will receive no follow up without cash up front.

This is a fact of life for hundreds of thousands in the USA. I've accepted it. If I ever did need some major surgery, I could commit a felony. Then and only then would I be assured the healthcare I would need.

My fiancee is recieving care for breast cancer. There will be surgery in May, I think. (All depends on the last half of the treatment, etc.) I can't tell you how many financial support programs I have been advertised in the doctor's offices. And, for the record, we have visited the ER on more than once occasion. Also on that record, we have hit the "insurance" limit on things and the cancer center has helped us out, greatly. They haven't for us, but they will for some just cut a check! We have coverage through work, yes, but my point is this:

-ER coverage is still coverage.
-Financial Aid is there as well. No, not goverment financial aid, but support group aid, but aid from the cancer center itself coverage.
-*NOBODY* Will ever deny you coverage, especially if it has come through an ER. Don't be afraid of it, look into it. Ask someone behind the desk, and believe it or not, most will work with you. When I lacked actual coverage, I did this with a dentist. It was no where near emergency work, but work I wanted done (a crown) and he did it via payment over time... (And most are happy to bypass the insurance groups too)

What you are saying is what I used to say about college. I used to say that I made too much to get any sort of funding to help me along. It's only 10 years later that I realize if I looked harder I would have found something to help me along.

I don't mean to sound mean, especially with the "be nice" policy below the reply window here. I just want to say that coverage is there, sometimes you have to fight for it, but it is there.

As to college.... (ah! don't get me started!!!) Ever wonder why it seems 7 out of 10 doctors are aliens in USA? It's because our gov't sponsors students to USA medical school from other countries. They don't sponsor Americans.

I don't know much about how the government sponsors people from other countries; I do know, however, that people from other countries are more likely (at least what I've seen) to work for less money and our country *prides* itself on paying its employees as little as possible. So it's a win win, I suppose. :P

Sorry... That's just baloney. That's like saying Illegal aliens are only taking jobs that real americans wouldn't take. Not true, just an excuse for doing nothing about it.

Oh no no, I don't see it as what happens across the board. I have actually heard, however, people say "I'll never work at a crappy job like McDonalds" and in the same breath say "I'm too poor, I wish I could find a job."

Then there are the people that don't *care* about what a job is, or where it is, just that it makes money when they are in dire need for it. In my opinion, I've found that more of the people who complain about never ever going "so low" as to work at a "crappy job" like that (imho, I don't think it is) -- have been native-born Americans as compared to aliens.

Now, that said:

The firm I am employed with has hired a Chinese immigrant to work on some highly technical motion control projects. This man, who is very smart, has been in the US for years now; doctorate from a midwest school of engineering and yada yada... kinda proves your point out though, doesn't it? :P

So, if I get cancer, I'm okay... If I have a heart attack, I'm screwed. Trust me, I know. My neighbor has to move because of his two heart attacks. Until he has nothing left, there is no additional aid.

Maybe so, maybe he's broke for the rest of his life, but he's alive. Which, even while homeless, one could argue is better than being dead.

I tend to get pissy when people jump right into saying "there is no funding around because of Iraq, omg Iraq!!1!" When it is just not true.

Because even if you have 0 funding and I have some funding the *average* funding is still greater than zero. ;)

If you think being alive and homeless is better than dead, then you've never been homeless. There are a few that choose to be homeless, but not most. My friend isn't homeless yet, but I doubt he will get proper treatment if he has another heart attack. He now falls into the category of disposable Americans. I never said that about Iraq... I would probably be one of the last to say that of my crowd. I tend to be more on the right side. My statement about Iraq was to demonstrate how our gov't, run by the wealthy (liberals too), make such a big deal of getting National Health going in Iraq, but so many Americans are dying each year because of lack of sufficient health care.

No no, you are right. you didn't say that about Iraq. I just find it very "red herring"-ish to talk about Iraq when speaking about our own healthcare. That could be for other reasons, however; like my general "label anyone complaining about Iraq an insta-crybaby". That's not a good thing on my part. :P

You're pretty much right... They treat you to sustain life... nothing more. But also remember who decides if you can pay.... I'll give you a hint, it's not you ;)

I know personally a family that couldn't afford to pay... but still got hit with the bill.... Well, they declared bankruptcy and their house was foreclosed on :/ Just shows how close on the edge so many people live :(

Sad, indeed. But they are alive! You never see a U-Haul truck in a funeral procession; it's not coming with you when you die.

Look, deadly afraid of doctors or not, you HAVE to get this checked out. A small wound on your hand with the wrong kind of bacteria in it can cause you to lose your ARM if not taken care of soon enough. Get someone you really trust to make you go. Don't give yourself a long term illness because you're afraid. We're all afraid of different things. Feel the fear and do it anyway. You are strong enough to walk in there and do this, you just need a friend along with you.

I assume the reason you are not posting any more is you are ether dead or in the hospital.

Can I have you tools after the rampant infection does you in?

Is Hydrogen Peroxide the stingy stuff? I wouldn't know, Dr. Mom usually handles this stuff.

It doesn't sting... but it kills surface tissue (just about everything). It wont' however, get rid of anything that's worked it's way into the bloodstream (which is why I mentioned antibiotics - a precautionary move). "Stinging stuff" is probably alcohol.

Right, but antibiotics arent to be taken lightly (We just covered all this in biology class) You need to know what you have before you take them, because you can help bacteria immunize against the antibiotics. Which is why its important to always take your full prescription...so everything is dead. And if they don't die, bacteria will share their R Plasmids (what lets the resist medicine)

For the most part - yes. Antibiotics should be given when you know what the little bugger is.... Unfortunately, prophylactic antibiotics don't follow the same rules as there is no way to know what you could have which is also why it's not prescribed for a cold but instead for pre/post surgery et. al.

It's done to prevent some of the nastier infections that will come up quickly enough that treatment is difficult (comparatively)..... I hope this kid is smart enough to go to the hospital if s/he starts running a fever :/

well since this was just biology, and not health class... I have no knowledge of prophylactics...so ill take your word for it.

hehe, you don't have to take my word for it :P Usually it's best not to take anyone's word :P

No worries though, I had a similar scenario awhile ago.... And I question my doctor about the very same thing. I really really prefer not taking medication of any kind unless needed. My last post was the answer I got.... In which I immediatly looked up the definition of prophylactic as I thought it was a reference to condoms (which is is. sorta, but not exclusively) :P

with a deep wound, surface application of antibiotics won't get to the bottom. in this case, antibiotics are a good idea, because they will go everywhere that blood circulation will. a 7mm surface wound means that he was digging in there quite a bit-lots of chances that something got left behind, especialy since he didn't mention that he sterilized his tools : )

Well, now that you got it out, i'd say put copious amount of polysporin on it.

I guess you are a true instructable-ist...always keeping the DIY mentality :P

GO TO ER YOU IDIOT! WHY TO YOU THINK THEY CALL IT ER? EMERGENCY! Which is what I'd say you just had. And Gangrene is defenitley uncool.
"Look everybody, my f-finger is twelve different colours!"
Look up "gangrene" on wikipedia.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/gangrene There, I did it for you. It ain't pretty.

BLGH I think I'm gonna puke 8P

I see a great instructable coming out of this. "How to extract BBs from your hand using a rusty spoon without letting your parents know."

Get to the ER, hands are important.

You don't want to be explaining for the rest of you life that your middle finger is permanently flipping the bird because you shot yourself with a BB gun and didn't bother going to the doctor.

I myself envison "Extracting Metal Objects Embedded in your Flesh with an Electromagnet." Hmm...how much force do you think that would actually take?

Well, enough force to rip it through your skin. Maybe 30lbs if it's small like a BB pellet?

Probably less, because depending on how its going, the wound would still be open, probably exposing it. Although if it got between bones or something, it could be higher.

This idea seems very interesting to me, but I wonder, Would an electro-magnet be able to pick up a COPPER bb?

Not that I'm encouraging you, but it's been my expeience that "copper" bb's aren't copper all the way through.

I just checked, and my copper bb's are indeed attracted to the magnet.

In conclusion, because you obviously didn't get the message the first time, SEE A F***ING DOCTOR!!! YOU ARE IN OVER YOUR HEAD!! GET SOMEONE WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE DOING!!! HANDS ARE IMPORTANT!!!


Wiki says "A BB is a small ball usually made of steel with a copper or zinc coating. " Have you told your parents at all?

At least it's not lead, like every other kind of ammo.

Say if I ran my capacitor bank through a coil? What kind of force do you think that would put out? Actually, that's kind of a cool ide- oh wait, that's a coil gun :) Of course, doing that, you would run the risk of the bb flying out at great speed and embedding itself into another part of your body :P

Looks like he prefers ear-wax removers. I hope your documenting this to make a kick-ass instructable on how to screw up your hand for life. *sigh*

actually, my middle finger and ring finger are down and won't go up, sort of spiderman-ish.

'cause thats totally better. Now you just look like a deformed freak. have fun explaining that to everyone. Get to the doctor, they know what they're doing. You need to get over your fear and just do it.

Finger permanently flexed? That's tendon and/or nerve damage. The longer you leave it, the more it takes to fix it. My dad came off his bike, smacked his shoulder. The next-day fix would have taken half an hour at his GP. He left it three weeks and had to have full surgery, including six weeks off work because he couldn't drive.


What the fuck where you doing to shoot your self anywayS?

I was just holding it (loaded, safety off). sensitive trigger. definitly NOT the smartest thing I've done.