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It was totally worth it to get Indiana Jones for $9! Answered

Yes, a win for consumerism, the economy is saved.

So which side of the bell curve do you think these shoppers fell on?


I think Black Friday this year was nearly enough to kill my faith in humanity. People have no sense whatsoever. I really cannot think of anything that's important enough to camp out for and then race other customers for with no regards for anyone else.


These idiots rush out to save a few bucks on toys their children will discard within the year, they fight over cashmere socks and sweater vests and anything with a % off sticker. If I hear one more person whining because they can't spend $500 on christmas this year, I'll probably curbstomp them. :)

I hate christmas.

This will be a common rant all during December. I apologize in advance. Working retail makes me really upset during the holidays. Plus, I get to be screamed at for not having the Twilight books all day long! Yay!

What do you think of the Filene's Basement madness when they open it up for the annual sample sale on wedding dresses? That ends up with epic catfights over a dress.

Oh no! Don't even get me started on weddings. I think weddings are also completely over the top and pointless. The whole ceremony, from the ring to the honeymoon, has been warped so much that it's basically pointless now. :P I'm pretty disgusted with the fact that women expect $3,000+ rings and really expensive dresses that they'll never wear again. It's no wonder most marriages end in divorce - all people are doing is fighting over money because they blew it all on things that don't matter. It's just my take on it, but it seems to be pretty close to what's actually happening.

Last year, my wife and I bought her a $3k+ engagement ring as a joint tenth anniversary gift. It replaced the one I had bought twelve years ago now, which had taken several points of damage (yeah, we failed the saving throw :-). She worked with the jeweler on the design (below), and we both treasure it. I respect your attitude toward weddings (and feel much the same way). When the time comes, I hope that you and your partner agree on what you want, and have a celebration which is meaningful to you both, your families and your friends.


Kitewife re-designed her wedding ring - the original had a narrow curved part to fit around her engagement ring (which cost me a month's wages). Unfortunately, the engagement ring was mounted with white gold, which wore through the yellow gold wedding ring. When the wedding ring got sharp, she got a jeweller to reshape it into a rounder, wider curve, and to make it thicker she added the gold from a ring she had bought to be mine, but changed her mind.

That's really sweet, I have to admit. The claws tend to go back in when I realize a ring is actually meaningful and not just a way of buying or proving love. ;) Beautiful ring, too! I've already told Jace that if we choose to go the marriage route, I don't want anything but the small diamond ring my gramma gave me for my 16th birthday. He might just need to get it cleaned, is all. :P

I want a ring that looks like a Feynman diagram wrapped round my finger. That would be awesome. I'd have something like proton decay, and make the two sides never actually touch. The only difficult part would be figuring out how to keep the time axis correct. It's on my to-do list at least.

We were smart and did our thing at City Hall. I had a co-worker that demanded her fiance max out his credit cards just to get the ring. I can imagine they are now in a world of hurt starting out a new life together with a pile of debt. Our motto is to be "rich in love", that is what really matters. I have no need to out-bling the neighbors.

I have a feeling that will probably be what occurs if we get married. (Because we might just choose to go the domestic partnership route, you never know!) Plus, I have a feeling it would be hard to have a wedding without our families wanting us to do it in a church - that's something neither of us would be willing to do.

A lot of ministers are happy to do weddings in unusual places. If I had it to do over again, I'd probably invite a dozen or so friends to a surprise wedding party. We'd just let the minister (or JOP), and maybe our parents in on the real purpose. Big weddings are just too much of a hassle and the money could be spent in much more practical (or less selfish) ways. BTW- Mrs. Skunkbait agrees. Elope, don't go all out on the honeymoon (it's not about the location) and use any extra finances to get a head-start in life. After you're established go all-out on a 10th or 20th anniversary party.

Hear, hear! My wife and I had help from both sets of parents to do a relatively "big" (I think about $10K total for everything) wedding, with maybe 100 guests, but they were all people who had been specific about wanting to be there with us, so it was really great. We did a semi-honeymoon to a conference I was attending, but nothing outrageous. Then, just as you say, we had a fabulous cruise around Greece and a stay in Venice (our second) for our tenth.

Yep, we had a similar wedding (nearly 17 years ago), with around 100-120 guests and a similar cost. It was mostly for the benefit of family and friends. ( Now we're older and grumpier, and just wouldn't put up with the hassle.) After it all was over, my wife said "I sure hope they enjoyed it! But you were right, we should've eloped!"

Heh! My wife and I did both. I was post-docking in Vancouver, so we found a JOP down in Bellingham Google Maps Is Your Friend! and had a really quiet ceremony with two friends from Seattle and half a dozen garden gnomes. Then the four of us wen't to a gorgeous seafood restaurant on a cliff overlooking the water.

Six months later, we had the big wedding outdoors at Fort MacArthur in Long Beach (on a lawn with the harbor and sailboats as a backdrop). My wife's childhood piano teacher is also an Episcopal minister; she did the ceremony, and only used God once in our vows ;->

If your families love you, then they should be supportive of and participate in your choices. Good luck!

I've done a handful weddings, and always tailor the vows to meet the couple's wishes. Sometimes simple and straightforward is best for everyone.

I expect you would, sir! It has seemed to me that that's what good ministers do. If you were really not comfortable with the couple's wishes, you wouldn't be doing the ceremony.

Yep, There are circumstances in which I would decline the request (and refer them to a JOP). But if I'm doing the ceremony, I always remember- it's THEIR big day. I have known ministers that won't do a ceremony unless they do it their own way! It might be different if we had a "thou shalt" or a "thou shalt not" from the Bible, but as long as it's nothing blasphemous/irreverent, I say "whatever the comitted couple wants!".

I'll have to say, living in a culture with rampant poverty has coloured my view too. What people spend on weddings could send a kid to college, or be a downpayment on a house! What we spend at christmas could feed a small village for a year. Or dig a well for a hurting community. Most people don't have a clue.

I do not believe I have read anything that would be as epic as a threat to curbstomp, with a smilie coupled at the end. The win is strong with this one..

Hmmm, your words flow smooth and true from the computer screen, spoken like a great warrior chief...one day you will be a legendary moderator...

And lo did the Great Bumpus arise from his chair, and smite the n00bs and numpties which gathered about him. And when it was done, the Bumpus did sate again before his keyboard, and he posted, and all was well again.

I shall struggle to show the many thanks the two of you deserve.

Curbstomping is my favorite threat. Not one to be taken lightly, that's for sure! Plus, if someone doesn't take me seriously, I can always curbstomp a Danielle Steel paperback as a visual aid. :D

"This will be a common rant all during December."

Just keep it in a text file, so you can paste it into comments every few days ;->

It changes in content, though. :D Some days it'll be about people shopping frantically without any idea of what they actually need, some days it'll be about people screaming at me for not buying their moldy, poop covered books!

Good grief... Bloody New Yorkers...

You stop hating on the New Yorkers.

Sounds like you live in NY!

Ahh... What do you love about NY? Or do love the city Manhattan its self?

I love both the state and NYC. The state is pretty, and family and many contacts live there. It's close to neat beaches. I love the city itself for so many reasons. I love the cultural opportunities, like museums and theater. I love the public transportation (sounds weird, I know. I wish my area had cheap mass transit though. I love efficiency). I love to shop and eat and walk around in Chinatown. I love the general ambience of a big city. I love to people watch. People fascinate me.

LOL! You love just about everything about NY! I have been to NY many times because my relatives lives there...

Have you ever been to the world trade center buildings before it was destroyed by the government? I have been there, but never got to the top... :-(

Haha, yep! I too have relatives there. It's awesome. Nope, never been there.


And, do you really hate holidays? I don't remember...

I'm not sure "hate" is the right word. Adrian's religious faith forbids the celebration of holidays. She gave me a great explanation for this in her Orangeboard.

The preceding public service announcement was brought to you by the New York Tourist Board I <3 NY and I <3 the Big Apple and the New York Lottery Commission...

So, if you are ever in town, and need me to be a bodyguard or sherpa, lemme know.

XD I did sound like a commercial didn't I...

Oooo, Sherpas! They discovered Everest you know. Mad props to teh Sherpas.

That'd be totally cool though! We could eat KFC's and eggs and laugh that GM was not there. :D

Nah, I'd treat you to some of Brooklyn's finest bagels and Junior's cheesecake (world famous). I'd send ya some but I have a vague idea they might need to ship it by pack mule to some farm in Iowa.

Junior's? Do you know if the Junior's in West L.A. (Westwood at Pico) is a branch? I used to go there for breakfast on Sunday when I was an undergrad. They made a chopped corned beef hash (really more like a patty) that was, to coin a phrase, to die for.

It was almost pure meat. The corned beef had been pulled apart (shredded) rather than diced up, and there was just a bit of shredded potato blended in. Since everything was cooked already, it had been lightly fried to have a crisp outer surface. Like I said, unlike anything I have had before or since, and amazingly good with mustard and scrambled eggs.

Yum, but with ketchup and an egg over easy, runny when you pop it to soak it up with some good toast. Then again, I have developed a taste for that creamed beef with scrambled rehydrated eggs they serve on bivuoacs.

Thanks! I checked both Web sites. The two Junior's are entirely unrelated to each other. Just a coincidence of names.

Oooo...bagels...I LOVE bagels bought fresh from a little shop in the subway station... That and Rocko's pizza! And Three Guys from the Bronx. NY pizza is the best pizza... >Smirks< Nope, not Iowa...

>RocketScientist2015 takes out eraser and scrapes violently on notepad

Yeah, they were living there for an awfully long time. One of them even climbed up, along with some dumb*** Englishman Hi, Kiteman! ;->

XD What always kills me is people who claim to be such awesome studly moutaineers, and some of them were literally dragged to the top or carried on the backs of Sherpas!