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Need help making a snow machine- Can I make it snow at 50-60 degrees F??? Answered

Hi. I've been thinking about making a snow machine ever since I saw a report on that 10 year old kid who built a snow machine (Although if you're smart, you'd know his grandfather had built it)

Anyway, I thought I could make one, since I have the two main ingredients: A Pressure Washer and an air compressor.

I haven't researched that much yet, but this is my main lead for now.

Anyway, I would like to ask you people a few questions:

  • Although I just found some info on this, how exactly does snowmaking work? My main question is if I need cold water. I just read that because the water moves so fast, it loses some of it's heat, but I don't think that would make it cold enough to create snow. I suppose I should use cooled water, like from a refrigerator.
  • Can I create snow at 50-60 degrees Farenheit? If I could, would it at least last about half an hour?

I appreciate any and all info you can give on the subjet. 'Any and all

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M F

9 years ago

You may be able to make snow above 29 degrees but it takes a lot of energy and equipment. basically , you want to lower the temperature of your water to freeze it into ice crystals.
The temperature of a liquid or gas is effected by two things.
1) add or remove HEAT
2) add or remove PRESSURE

think of a really big high power airconditioner
if you can afford it. or get the equipment from a junkyard .
here is a link to an indoor ski-resort in the middle of the desert.
120 degrees outside
your hard earned oil dollars going to the Arabs.
http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_dubai_ski_resort.htm

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gmoon

9 years ago

In our area the ski resorts don't run the snow machines until the outside temp drops below 28 degree Fahr....

generally because above 29 degrees fahrenhite and you get poor quality wet snow which isnt really suitable for skiing/snow boarding on : )

Hey there Keith-Kid,

I too have been looking for information on the snowmaking technique for a while now in preparation for a winters night do in winter..

To answer your first question..

Generally industrial snow making machines they use large compressors, pumps and vacums to super chill the water..

However ones that can be purchased or ones that you build yourself generally tend to use a power washer and a compressor.

These tend to use a very fine nozzel to spray tiny droplets of water up at a 90 degree angle into a stream of compressed air which both chills and causes the vapour to be sprayed across a chosen area.

Now in response to your main question. My response is that the colder your water source the better as the water is already at a lower temperature so there is a greater chance of producing snow. The actual cooling/freezing process of the water is down to the temperature of your enviroment generally below -2 degrees c and the low temperatures of the compressed air.

To answer your last question i can only say no. The conditions needed for snow making are measured using something called a wet bulb temperature chart which takes into account the humidity of the space around you and the temperature. This can be found here: wet-bulb temperature chart

Id recommend this site though for a reasonably detailed run through of the technology behind snow making and also some free design plans for your own DIY snow machine!

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Gjdj3

10 years ago

Well, about the temperature... I know that ski resorts won't make snow unless it's under 40 degrees, and it's not good snow unless it's under 36. They have to add this "Blue-Ice" chemical even then. I'm pretty sure that those machines at the link work very well, but only when the temperature is well under 32. Anywhere over and you're pretty much busted.

50-60 degrees is really cold here. Our regular temeratures are always 84+.......But lately, nights have been cooler.....in winter days are 60 and nights are 50.....

Well, I'm not saying it's impossible. With enough chemicals and a well enough built machine... maybe. What might work is somehow setting up an icy base to put the snow on. Don't give up! If you got it to work that would be really cool.

I also thought of making it in a closed room, with an air conditioner on!

:p

You know, that might actually work. Go to a basement with hard concrete floors and cover up any windows to avoid getting light in. Then you could run multiple air conditioners. :P

No. It'll just spit out slush that will quickly melt at temperatures that high.

well, i know that making artificial snow has something to do with making really small ice pieces. at least that is what i remember.

I already read that, Nacho, but I wanted a few other opinions.

A friend of mine got in the paper for making his own snow...