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New camera? Answered

Well I'm getting a new camera and have come to the choosing part, basically the upper limit is £180 and I'm torn between two but also looking for other suggestions. It's to replace my fuji finepix S5600 that was stolen. my requirements are as so: *Min 10x optical zoom *Needs to have shutter speed adjustment of at least 15 seconds down to 1/2000th of a second *A decent amount of megapixels (6 or more) *Full aperture adjustments would be nice but up to F8.0 is acceptable *Built in flash *Preferably uses standard batteries like AA, unless it's canon, got a load of them already I've already Seen two I like, being most familiar with Fuji and canon drew me towards them. The Finepix S1000FD is the evolution of my older camera and the controls remain the same for the most part, Has 12x zoom which is better and 10 megapixels resolution... The canon SX100 is cheaper and only has 10x zoom, it does do slightly faster shutter speeds but it's a marginal difference, it also includes optical image stabilisation which would be nice, the fuji has no mention of this... Any other suggestions for potential cameras are very welcome, please help me choose between these two or others...

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LinuxH4x0r

10 years ago

I personally like cannon, but now I'm going back to a 35mm Minolta XG-A

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killerjackalopeLinuxH4x0r

Reply 10 years ago

It would be great to have one of them swapped to CCD, a full 35mm one, think of the pretty digital photies, then again I like my minoltas as they are, along with the canon eos 35mm, we have lenses galore, the digital eos was paid for by selling off the spare old lenses on Ebay, we just kept enough of the telescopics to cover most possibilities...

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killerjackalopeLinuxH4x0r

Reply 10 years ago

It's the family's and I have very limited access to it, also my dad bought it so I wouldnt want to wreck or lose it.

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westfwkillerjackalope

Reply 10 years ago

I have a rule that I'm trying to stick to for a while: "never buy a camera that's too expensive to use in the situations where you use your camera." I'd rather have several cheaper cameras than spend a small fortune on a high-end DSLR and lenses that I'd feel like I had to treat with kid gloves all the time.

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LinuxH4x0rwestfw

Reply 10 years ago

My philosophy is be afraid of losing the picture, not the camera

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killerjackalopeLinuxH4x0r

Reply 10 years ago

Sentimental reasons for the camera... I got really upset when mine was stolen, I had some great photos on it...

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LinuxH4x0rkillerjackalope

Reply 10 years ago

Yeah, I would rater break mine than have it stolen. Sorry to hear that

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killerjackalopeLinuxH4x0r

Reply 10 years ago

It was my mum that let it happen, she was borrowing it so... argh... That fuji had taken a few knocks and bangs and survived some interesting situations, I'll dig up the photo it took, while inside a fireball, noone really knows how the things happened, it scorched my hand very badly and somehow the camera was unscathed, decent quality casing but still...

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killerjackalopeLinuxH4x0r

Reply 10 years ago

Yeah just looking for it, it's on a flash drive somewhere, it would help if I at least knew what object I was looking for...

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killerjackalopewestfw

Reply 10 years ago

It's an older model and not of massive value, it's a sentimetal thing more so...

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westfw

10 years ago

How did you like the fuji? I would say that if you liked how it worked, you should get another one. Otherwise, you should see if the parts you DIDN'T like are "better" on the cannon, and use that to help with your decision. As you've noticed, the "super zoom" cameras in your price range are a pretty small set. In a similar situation recently, my criteria narrowed me down to 2 or 3 current generation cameras, each of which had some problems. I ended up buying the same camera I had broken (used, on eBay) instead; at least I'm familiar with it (and have some of the accessories.)

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killerjackalopewestfw

Reply 10 years ago

Well both of them are good and I like them both alot for different reasons, the Fuji I had was bought at the end of it's generation cheap and it was excellent, my only complaint was that I didn't have the snap on 56mm adapter for the lens, which gives beautiful results for lower light environments. The reason I like the creative compacts is the fact that you get the better part of an SLR for a much lower price and they're generally quite handy and very well built...

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PKM

10 years ago

Hmm... I don't have much experience with fujis so can't comment. I know the powershot range are generally good all-rounders- my brother had one, it had decent manual controls, the flip screen was very useful and the picture quality was good but it had internal mechanical issues (iris/shutter broke at some point). I personally use a slightly aging olympus C770 which is great- a lot of control modes including full manual (shutter speed, ISO, aperture, focus mode etc), good optics which means good pictures despite a low megapixel count. Not sure how much the equivalent would cost now though.

A slightly riskier alternative is finding a well-treated entry level EOS or similar on ebay- the 350 went for about £400 new so you could could well find one in your price range for a bit of looking. You sound like you know your cameras so I don't have to rave about how amazing the EOS is and how much I want to have its babies...
I have three friends with EOSes and consequently massive camera envy

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killerjackalopePKM

Reply 10 years ago

Well I have access to an EOS 20D on occasion though it's the families and for other reasons I'd never put it in harm's way, they are excellent cameras, some of my 'stock' photos seen in my 'ibles are from it, also I find the colour reproduction of digital canons to be nice, however fuji are also amazing, the old S5600 I had was great and going over to Fchrome made natural scenes look great...

I don't know that I would risk a used SLR, also an SLR is not completely ideal for me, since a sealed camera with a good zoom lens will incur far less maintenance and breakage worries, since the camera lens assembly is one piece, however I might see if I could stretch my budget somehow, I really like the canon bottom end SLR's and their creative compacts, I still have an old powershot A60, 2MP and 3X optical zoom, all my newr 'ibles have been taken on that, check out the jet engine one for an idea of the pics it can take despite being years old (five at least I think we have older digicams aswell not to mention a tonne of old film SLRs I can play with, if I get the money I'll convert one of the minoltas to digital, or an eos, now that they do 35mm sensors...)

Umm on the powershot would you say it's sturdy enough camera? I know the frames and builds for these are mostly similar, my old compact is nearly the same as the new one...

Thanks for some advice

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Yerboogieman

10 years ago

i have a sony DSLR a100 10.2 megapixel camera

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westfwYerboogieman

Reply 10 years ago

Bet the DSLR doesn't have the 10x zoom... (unfortunately, one of the things you tend to give up going to the larger sensor size is the large zoom range.)

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killerjackalopewestfw

Reply 10 years ago

Not really, my friend has a full 35mm sensor conversion on an older eos, he borrows our lenses the odd time and can go down to 28 and up to our longest lens, damn can't remember what it is... but it's enough

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killerjackalopeYerboogieman

Reply 10 years ago

Exactly... Any way the photographer make the photo, the camera just records it, granted you're probably serious about photography or stinkin' rich...

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Yerboogiemankillerjackalope

Reply 10 years ago

yeah, i don't know, we just like to take nice pictures if take any and we save up money all the time, we just got a nice Compaq laptop, im sorry if im putting you down or anything, i just like to show off, lol, i think we all can relate

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killerjackalopeYerboogieman

Reply 10 years ago

I think you may be a little better off than me, I don't hold that against you, I'd boast about the camera aswell... Well that's my budget and I can take a decent photo, hence photography work I always try and get to do, too many times I've ended up in front of camera, that said I get paid either way... Well it's good that you can get nice things, as long as the simple stuff doesn't escape you...

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NachoMahma

10 years ago

. Keep in mind that pixel count isn't everything. As a rule of thumb, more pixels are better, but the physical size of the sensor is more important. Everything else being equal, more pixels will allow you to make clearer enlargements.

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killerjackalopeNachoMahma

Reply 10 years ago

I know, from my experience with the earlier fuji I've found that the sensors are good and in some cases the amount of light getting in is just a nuisance at points, in italy I kept getting overblown shots even with minimum aperture opening and maximum shutter speed, the iso put down to 64 did the job. I only need about 6MP minimum for any photoshop work and any photography work that's a bit of headroom above the minimum for their magazine sizes, giving room for cropping... It's governmemt funded arts projects so there's no need for a monster SLR or even a bottom end SLR, even then I can dig out the family canon eos or go film...

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ll.13

10 years ago

I think I'd recommend the Fujifilm... :) I can't actually think of any other camera.