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Non-questions with question marks Answered


Is anyone else annoyed by the prevalence of non-questions with question marks after them in the Answers section? Is this a manifestation of the proliferation of "upspeak"? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_rising_terminal Perhaps a new rule should be instituted requiring all questions TO BE IN THE FORM OF A QUESTION, not a statement with a question mark after it. Here are some aggravating examples:

"My LED matrix isn't working?"
"I though I saw a instructable on making a silverware divider out of plastic?"
"DIY step up switching regulator?"
"Reflective Silk Screening?"
"Atx Power Supply?"

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steveastrouk

8 years ago

Bugs me too. I have a new member of staff that does it all the time, and its driving me up the wall.

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aeraysteveastrouk

Reply 8 years ago

When I was in Australia I tried (typically while drinking) to "upspeak" back to particularly obnoxious offenders. It usually took them quite a while to catch on, but when they did, they became quite upset. Sometimes to the brink of tears or violence. I often hung out with a Swede, a German, and a Pole (sounds like a joke, I know) and they thought it was hilarious. Perhaps you should try it.

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steveastroukaeray

Reply 8 years ago

Usually I ask them what the question is that they think they're asking. That baffles them. I thought Kiwis were worse than Aussies for this uptalk thing, but it seems to have crept into common speech in the UK too.

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aeraysteveastrouk

Reply 8 years ago

When I was in Oz, in 2000, the under-25 segment were the worst offenders. It was also, it seemed, more prevalent in folks from the east and west coasts.

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steveastroukaeray

Reply 8 years ago

One of my sons does it too. That and talking to me like I'm an idiot, but that's just father/son thing.

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PKMaeray

Reply 8 years ago

.. so you and the German climbed the pole and ate the swede?

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aeraycaitlinsdad

Reply 8 years ago

Not the rules, but the format would be great. Actually, it's not even the format (answers must be in the form of a question) I just want the questions to be in the form of questions not some semi-decipherable statement with a question mark after it.

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aeraycaitlinsdad

Reply 8 years ago

I lived in Australia for a while, and the prevalence of "upspeak" there drove me nuts. Now it is seeping onto Instructables, in written form, and I am noticing it more and more in my corner of the U.S. It bugs the s*** out of me.

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Goodhartaeray

Reply 8 years ago

You let too much bother you. Relax, what others do, you can't control. Go with the flow, being uptight about everything only raises your blood pressure and causes heart disease.

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aerayGoodhart

Reply 8 years ago

Luckily, beer lowers it. Perhaps I can use "upspeak" as an excuse for drinking...

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aerayNachoMahma

Reply 8 years ago

"Need", no. "Want" to have a backup, perhaps.

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Goodhartaeray

Reply 8 years ago

Nacho is just replying to your statement:

Perhaps I can use "upspeak" as an excuse for drinking...

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kcls

8 years ago

I have noticed that when you go to the answers section, and type in your question in the box, if there isn't already a question mark there, it puts one in automatically. When I ask a question in the answers section and it isn't in question form, it puts one in but I delete it before it posts the question.

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Goodhart

8 years ago

Upspeak is different then raising the last syllable of a sentence to create a question, though. Upspeak is done more consistently, IIRC. In fact, there is a fear among some that "upspeak" makes a person appear unsure of the statement they are making, so they are, in fact, NOT creating a question. If a question is intended, then they are just using a short cut, like nearly all internet and cell phone users use: IMHO. :-)

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aerayGoodhart

Reply 8 years ago

Yes: They are NOT creating a question.

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Goodhartaeray

Reply 8 years ago

Voice inflection, in the "rest" of the speaking world does create a question however. Like I said below, it's been around for a LONG time, You dig?

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GorframGoodhart

Reply 8 years ago

I forget which languages don't have iterrogative words or word orders, but I know there are some in which the difference between:

"You and Bernie went to the movies."

"You and Bernie went to the movies!"

"You and Bernie went to the movies?"

is communicated entirely by voice inflection.


"Upspeak" in English, though, is rising inflection at the end of a declarative sentence:

"The Governor was hiking the  Appalachian   Trail....."

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Gorframcaitlinsdad

Reply 8 years ago


Hunh? Are you referring to the "meaning depends on voice inflection" part, the "inflection rising at end of sentence for no apparent reason" part?

(Or the Governor having been engaged in not-especially-hiking-related activites several thousand miles from the Appalachian Trail part? ;)

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GoodhartGorfram

Reply 8 years ago

I "think" he is referring to the "versatility" of upspeak as compared to the "word" in the video. . .

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GoodhartGorfram

Reply 8 years ago

Well, with each of those sentences, I know that the voice intonation makes quite a difference in interpretation, for sure. With the "Governor" sentence, I would interpret that as a question if spoken in the manner in which you indicate.

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lemonieaeray

Reply 8 years ago

so, like i red this and i want to say u r not? L

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Gorfram

8 years ago

Oh, for the love of Pete. Many of the "upspeak" question/statements at least have decent spelling and grammar, if not punctuation. If we were going to institute a "Proper English Language Mechanics" requirement, we'd have to ban 25-30% of our users - including me when under the influence of insufficent coffee.

IMNSHO, "Not sure where to post this?" beats the heck out of "why dozs my engglush teecher hates me?"

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lemonieGorfram

Reply 8 years ago


What gets me is "I've got a problem", I do some internet-stuff, and if I do -xgtszytdutdutfdutdctyf DDGHJDYKJN!!! PLEAZZZZ!!!! I may get what I want. Then I'll try Yahoo Answers, then somewhere else...

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NachoMahma

8 years ago

.  Welcome to The Intertubes. :)
.  As far as I can tell, it's a combination of factors - it is the questions section after all, only so many characters allowed in title, &c.
.  Yep, it's irritating, but what can ya do?

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GoodhartNachoMahma

Reply 8 years ago

pssst, aeray has been around since 2005 :-)

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GoodhartNachoMahma

Reply 8 years ago

I don't think ANYTHING will ever top "valley girl talk" however for being irritating... LOL