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Republicans on Instructables Answered

This group is for all of us Republicans here on Instructables. I've seen quite a bit of anti-Bush and anti-Republican sentiment on this site (particularly from our member Fenris) and I've started this group to give us a place to commiserate and discuss the issues. All the best to yous all, Sugg22

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Zaphod Beeblebrox

9 years ago

You know who should be president?........................Adam savadge!!!!!!!!!!!

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dsman195276sugg22

Reply 10 years ago

republicans rule!( except for bush!)

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Owenmondsman195276

Reply 9 years ago

w00t! Elephants also rule! >:-D Not stinky old donkeys =P

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AnanandOwenmon

Reply 9 years ago

elephants are pretty stinky too. Possibly even more stinky.

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OwenmonAnanand

Reply 9 years ago

All donkeys do are poop and sleep. On the other hand, elephants can do wonders! Like, shooting water out of their trunk at speeds of over 60 MPH! :-D

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AnanandOwenmon

Reply 9 years ago

Donkeys do backbreaking work actually, and they do the work others don't want to. Elephants are actually very intelligent creatures though. Shame that they are representing a group that is the exact opposite.

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OwenmonAnanand

Reply 9 years ago

*Sigh* I'm not even going to start. )-:

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AnanandOwenmon

Reply 9 years ago

Sorry, maybe I should have thought before I said that. I should probably get off the Republican forum anyway

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xACIDITYxAnanand

Reply 9 years ago

Yeah, or fear getting the "TROLL" tag, eh?

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Icepickdsman195276

Reply 9 years ago

If you are one of my republican brethren then open your eyes to my advice. Republicans never insult their conservative leader. Bush has kept us safe for 8 years and now that Obama is presidant we are already getting threats from countries because he's too weak! He's a people lover! He would rather kiss up to these liberals democrat socialists than stick up for our God fearing country! We must stick up for Bush. The fate of the GOP depends on all the Republicans who stick up for it. Republicans are disapearing by and by and it's because of the stupid liberal democrat media that makes bush look bad! Bush is getting too old to have to put with democrat lies. We must respect our fellow republican.

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lemonieIcepick

Reply 9 years ago

Bush has kept us safe for 8 years
Who was in charge when the World Trade Centre was totalled?

it's because of the stupid liberal democrat media that makes bush look bad!
Bush looks bad because he is a semi-literate bozo.

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Icepickdsman195276

Reply 9 years ago

I'm a full right wing conservative republican!

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sugg22dsman195276

Reply 10 years ago

he's ok. i am a huge fred thompson fan. i hope he doesn't drop out.

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dsman195276sugg22

Reply 10 years ago

i hope he dosent drop out to. but i dont thing he is the best.( not sure who is the best right now.)

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xACIDITYxdsman195276

Reply 10 years ago

Obama is doing best *rolls eyes* I want stephen colbert as president.

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wussap

9 years ago

Yay!!!! Obama won the presidential elections! cheer w00t! America is saved!!!! why am I commenting on this forum? I'm going to get a truckload of angry responses.

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Tool Using Animal

10 years ago

Shouldn't you define republican, it doesn't mean the same thing it did even ten years ago.

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sugg22Tool Using Animal

Reply 10 years ago

that's pretty hard to do - the actual term Republican means one who supports republican government, and the term Democrat literally means an advocate or supporter of democracy. in terms of today, I'd define Republican as in favor of traditional values/ethics and in favor of a smaller government, along with being very much in favor of defending the country at all costs

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xACIDITYxsugg22

Reply 10 years ago

also, we technically are in favor of less power to the nat'l gov't and more to local gov'ts.

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Brennn10xACIDITYx

Reply 10 years ago

How about giving tax breaks to the upper class and leaving the middle and lower class left to dry?

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xACIDITYxBrennn10

Reply 10 years ago

really? That sounds more like democrats. From what i read, republicans are in favor of a flat tax.

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PatrikxACIDITYx

Reply 10 years ago

Just so you know - a flat tax is giving tax breaks to the upper class and leaving the middle and lower class left to dry...

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sugg22Patrik

Reply 10 years ago

not really - while that may happen as a result, the flat tax truly means that everyone is taxed the same percentage. Of course, for the rich, that does mean tax cuts, but the middle and lower class are not quite "hung out to dry."

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Patriksugg22

Reply 10 years ago

Yes, it would mean drastic tax cuts for the rich. And to compensate, you'd have to have higher taxes for the rest of us (i.e. a higher flat tax than what they're paying now). OR Drastically lower services - medicare/medicaid, social security, education, etc. Which really amounts to the same thing, since the wealthy can pay for those things themselves anyway.

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xACIDITYxPatrik

Reply 10 years ago

It's not our fault that the rich are rich and the poor are poor. They got lucky. There's no reason to charge them more of a percentage on their taxes because they made good decisions.

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PatrikxACIDITYx

Reply 10 years ago

Ah - notice that you're contradicting yourself there: "they got lucky", versus "they made good decisions".

Although it may not take much "good luck", but rather lots of hard work to slowly climb your way up the social ladder, with the continuing dismantling of social safety nets, it's becoming all to easy for a spot of unavoidable bad luck to tumble you all the way to the bottom rung.

How many people currently cannot afford to pay health insurance, because they need to choose between food and housing (or education of their children), versus paying the premium? How many families have not been able to put more than a few month's worth of salary in their savings account? Add in a case of cancer, company layoffs, or mental health issues, and those families stand to lose *everything* and wind up on the street. That's not a case of bad decisions, but bad luck.

Progressive taxes are acknowledged by the majority of economists as a good thing for society. Tax exemptions are an extreme form of progressive taxation - I supposed you would be in favor of abolishing those too? Let's take that family of four that is barely able to survive on $25K a year, and charge them an extra 20% income tax at the end of the year, same as Donald Trump and Bill Gates?

To quote Adam Smith:

The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. (...) It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.

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xACIDITYxPatrik

Reply 10 years ago

Well, simply making good decisions doesn't put you "up top". Luck sometimes has a play in it.

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its a lionxACIDITYx

Reply 10 years ago

But giving the tax breaks to the upper class is exactly what Republicans did. Democrats want to reinstate those taxes.

Right now, Republicans tend to be in favor of the Fair Tax.

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sugg22its a lion

Reply 10 years ago

Taxes are an issue that many Republicans differ on - fiscal Conservatives like the flat tax above pretty much everything else, while fiscal Moderates are more in favor of the Fair Tax plan. The bipartisan system, as everyone knows, does not accurately represent the view points of the different members of the parties.

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its a lionsugg22

Reply 10 years ago

The only thing I have heard about taxes recently coming from the Republican side is about the Fair Tax. Thanks for telling me about the division amongst them, and where the division tends to fall. And yes, not everyone on either side agrees completely with everyone else on that side. I have not been really keeping track of all the politics yet. I do suppose I need to start paying attention though, because the field of candidates has narrowed quite a bit recently.

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Tool Using Animalsugg22

Reply 10 years ago

Traditional values being white middle class protestantism, I presume? Smaller government? I've not met a politician yet who gives that anything but lip service.

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sugg22Tool Using Animal

Reply 10 years ago

traditional values means: no homosexual marriages or civil unions, don't tolerate alcoholism and drug abuse, no free-for-all abortions (they should only be available if the mother will definitely die as a result of carrying the child, or if the mother was raped and has proof of that), and providing for your family

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sugg22sugg22

Reply 10 years ago

oh, by the way. i am not protestant - I'm Jewish.

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chaoscampbellsugg22

Reply 10 years ago

so wouldn't that make republicans..... conservatives and democrats Liberals? I know of both conservative and liberal democrats and republicans.... A definition would be most helpful

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sugg22chaoscampbell

Reply 10 years ago

republicans are generally more conservative, and democrats are generally more liberal. however, there are exceptions. take Rudy Giuliani, for example - he is very intent on cracking down on terrorism, but he is very liberal in terms of social issues like abortion and gay marriage. he is also fiscally "middle of the road." other Republicans, like Mike Huckabee, are extremely conservative on social issues, but fairly liberal fiscally, and doesn't even focus that much on foreign policy. on the other side, this year there are no conservative democrats, however a good example of a conservative democrat would be

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chaoscampbellsugg22

Reply 10 years ago

I'm confused. you just linked a Prominent Democrat that ran for democratic leadership against Al gore as a liberal alternative. where's the definition of parties here?

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sugg22chaoscampbell

Reply 10 years ago

Bill Bradley is a fairly Conservative Democrat. he is not all that liberal. in fact, his most liberal policy is on letting homosexuals in the military.

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KentsOkay

10 years ago

Woot for Mcain!