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TOS (Terms of Service) Answered

Most people don't read licence agreements, small print etc. and most users haven't read the site TOS.
I don't really expect many people to do so even after I've posted this but we're all bound by them (no exceptions)

Be aware of this first:
1 By using this site, you agree to the TOS, there's no getting out of this it is defined in the TOS.
Instructables can change the TOS, if you still use the site then you agree to the changes (as above).

5 In registering you agree to provide true and accurate information, i.e. not fake@fakemail.com, not my age is 98 (when it's really 9.8) - any "porkies" and they can delete you. You may not use this site unless you are at least 13 years old. In accordance with the Federal Children's Online Privacy Protection Act of 1998 (COPPA)

6 Note this:
Instructables does not use spy-ware, ad-ware, pop-up ads, spam or other annoying or intrusive advertising. We do not sell, rent, or exchange your personal information to any third party for marketing purposes.

7 a You're responsible for what you post, if it's illegal the site will cooperate with The Man
7 b If you post anything offensive or inappropriate, you may be deleted.
7 g Browser beware: you might be exposed to to Content that is offensive, indecent, objectionable or unsafe - you take your own risks with this!

The whole of 8 - Member Conduct is worth a read

12 If you're dealing with advertisers, that's between you and them.

15 eA SMALL PERCENTAGE OF USERS MAY EXPERIENCE EPILEPTIC SEIZURES WHEN EXPOSED TO CERTAIN LIGHT PATTERNS OR BACKGROUNDS ON A COMPUTER SCREEN OR WHILE USING THE SERVICE...

24 All the Instructables logos images etc are protected trademarks. Maybe Robot is exempt from this, or perhaps the site's reasonably lenient there?

25 & 26 There's a proper procedure for claims of copyright infringement and other disputes

27 The TOS is governed by the laws of the State of California
When you're dead you're account will be deleted if your executors provide a copy of your death certificate.

28
Please report any violations of the Terms to the Instructables Support Manager at tos@instructables.com.

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PKM

9 years ago

24 All the Instructables logos images etc are protected trademarks. Maybe Robot is exempt from this, or perhaps the site's reasonably lenient there?

Well trademark isn't the same as copyright, IIRC it's protection for commercial use (a mark under which you trade). I think the Powers That Be let us have fun with the robot image because we're not selling any derivative works. If CameronSS started selling robot-with-aviator-goggles t-shirts then maybe there would be a problem, bus just for making avatars and so on it's all fun.

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Lithium RainPKM

Reply 9 years ago

I think Ewilhelm has specifically granted permission for a few users to sell shirts, but I'm not certain, and IIRC it was a case-by-case thing, not a blanket approval for anyone to go out and do it.

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KitemanLithium Rain

Reply 9 years ago

We can do what we want with Robot, as long as we don't profit by it.

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Rock SoldierKiteman

Reply 9 years ago

As long as weeee don't profit by it? Hmm......
So, we could make robot shirts, sell them, give the money to someone else who isn't a member of instructables, have the person use that money to make a profit, put it all in a bank account, wait until they're old enough to become a senator, take the money out that bank account, use that money for some event, wait until he get's paid enough to pay me back for the money I gave to him/her, and that would be okay and legal?

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BigevRock Soldier

Reply 9 years ago

But I'll be old then. I want the money now!

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Rock SoldierBigev

Reply 9 years ago

Me too, but I don't want Eric to arrest me.

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Chicken2209Lithium Rain

Reply 9 years ago

I know eric has given permission to users to make, but not to sell (Derin)

even though I had a robot shirt on cafepress, but no one bought one
plus there wasnt a profit

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sharlston

9 years ago

what if you buy pro then get deleted will you get a refund?

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Kitemansharlston

Reply 9 years ago

It's a simple thing to not get deleted - be civilised.

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BigevKiteman

Reply 9 years ago

Civili- wait....

remember who you're doing a spell check for...

EEP!

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CameronSS

9 years ago

8. MEMBER CONDUCT
...You agree to NOT use the Service to:
k. "Stalk" or otherwise harass another person or company;

So, Lith and I need to have our accounts deleted.

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caitlinsdadCameronSS

Reply 9 years ago

I've never seen you stalk someone, you must be very good at it.

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CameronSScaitlinsdad

Reply 9 years ago

Oh, I am. And you should close the blinds when you're changing next time...no one wants to see that through high-powered binoculars.

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caitlinsdadCameronSS

Reply 9 years ago

That's a 42" plasma screen display you are watching to keep the peeps occupied. Point your binoculars up a little and you will see the attic window has a high resolution camera pointing back at you. Amateur.

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CameronSScaitlinsdad

Reply 9 years ago

Ah, I wondered what that was you were pointing at my decoy.

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n8manCameronSS

Reply 9 years ago

Man this is getting intense, I am watching it all through multiple satalites and I used some programs to map it all out in 3D. This is getting pretty heated.

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Derinn8man

Reply 9 years ago

I had sent a camera on a HUGE pole to watch your satellite.This is fun.

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Goodhartn8man

Reply 9 years ago

yeah, and you all live quite boring lives to boot LOL

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caitlinsdadGoodhart

Reply 9 years ago

Wait a minute, if he is watching me watching him and someone else is watching us watch each other and you come along watching me watch him as he watches me with that other person watching him watch me as I watch him, then who is watching you?

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Goodhartkelseymh

Reply 9 years ago

"I am a watcher, part of a secret society of men and women who observe and record but never interfere, we know the truth about immortals, in the end there can be only one"

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caitlinsdadGoodhart

Reply 9 years ago

but keep your eye on the road ahead, you may step in something that will upset the missus when you track it in all over the house.

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Goodhartcaitlinsdad

Reply 9 years ago

Kind of reminds me of a sketch from Cheech n Chong when they (as Native Americans) are riding and come across something in the road..... :-)

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caitlinsdadkelseymh

Reply 9 years ago

ummm, you left the gate open, lots of strange people got loose. Who let the dogs out?

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Derin

9 years ago

Instructables DOES use pop-up ads. THE PRO ADS ARE MY PROOF

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lemonieDerin

Reply 9 years ago

I've got some pop-up blocker running, but what ads pop up for you? ("The Pro Ads" would not be advertising as such) L

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Derinlemonie

Reply 9 years ago

Here is my proof.

PROOF.bmp
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KitemanDerin

Reply 9 years ago

That's site content - you do not get them for external advertisers.

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Lithium Rain

9 years ago

29 Reporting violations of section 5 makes you a tattle-tale.

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caitlinsdadLithium Rain

Reply 9 years ago

You apparently did not read the TOS.

29 is the Balk rule. Go Pro and hand over your moniez 4evah.

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Lithium Raincaitlinsdad

Reply 9 years ago

New addition...you're right, I didn't read the actual TOS.

Whoa. Apparently you better not cry and you better not pout cuz Santa is always watching and ready to snatch Proness out of your sticky little fingers.

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skunkbaitLithium Rain

Reply 9 years ago

Wow! I pout and cry all the time (I'm just not that good at it!).

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caitlinsdadskunkbait

Reply 9 years ago

Another tantrum and you won't be able to go to the 24-hr Wal-Mart in the middle of the night...

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skunkbaitcaitlinsdad

Reply 9 years ago

On a (sadly) serious note, I used to occasionally go to Walmart at 3am. I was supervising a midnight shift and on my lunchbreak I would sometimes run errands. It's unbelievable what kinda folks you meet there at 3am. It was about like Waffle House, except they had shopping baskets full of Ephedrine, ammunition, Cheetos, rolling papers and feminine hygiene products. On an upside, there were always good parking spaces.

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caitlinsdadskunkbait

Reply 9 years ago

It's unbelievable what kinda folks you meet there at 3pm too. Save money, live better at Wally world. You wait for the cars to clear out in the parking lot so you can change your oil/anti-freeze/tires/struts/battery without bumping into the next car.

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lemonieLithium Rain

Reply 9 years ago

Thanks, it's not an exhaustive list... Bloody-grumpy-looking guy eh? L

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Goodhartlemonie

Reply 9 years ago

indeed, but did you ever see this guy?

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lemonieGoodhart

Reply 9 years ago

Geoffrey Palmer. What's that out of then? L

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Goodhartlemonie

Reply 9 years ago

A Fish Named Wanda (I also remember seeing him in the series As Time Goes By).

If I remember correctly, John Cleese was the barrister.

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lemonieGoodhart

Reply 9 years ago

Wierd, my parents gave me a defective TV (which I fixed) - in testing it today I ran across a clip from Butterflies...

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Goodhartlemonie

Reply 9 years ago

I have never seen that before. That is also in his younger days (while in As Time Goes By, he was getting a bit older) (as was Judi Dench)

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Bigev

9 years ago

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the age 13 and e-mail terms are the most often violated. Correct me if I'm wrong, its fun to know stuph like that.

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lemonieBigev

Reply 9 years ago

I wouldn't know about the e-mails, but otherwise yes. L