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The phrase "You have no right": What's the deal? Answered

Recently, I saw someone use a variation the phrase "You have no right to say that".  Location and who said that are not important.  Anyways, my bull detector went off, so I just decided to post this topic.

For all the people who have used this phrase before, guess what?  They still said it.  The receivers of this skewered phrase obviously don't care if they don't have the right to say it, which brings me to this train of thought:

Why do we call it a "Right"?  Most times people say it as if it was not a legal right at all, but matter of fact is, that most conversation on the internet is not really anything to involve cops or authorities in (Well, at least the conversations with the phrase I mentioned above), so why are we treating this as something straight out of the constitution or bill of rights or whatever?

Offtopic: I kept the poster of the comment and the location of the comment anonymous for a reason.  It would be smart for him/her to not blow it with a poorly written comment.

Why I posted this topic: There have been a bunch of phrases on the internet (some offensive with cuss words and whatnot) that don't make sense when you go by their definition, and I felt like ruining one of them.

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I don't think that many who use that phrase is actually speaking in legal terms.  What I think they are saying is that in an argument with another person they don't consider you argument valid and refuse to accept your statement.

I feel that it is a perfectly legitimate phrase to use.

That's what I meant.  One of the points of my phrase was that people who were saying it in the context you mentioned were talking like it was a legal issue, when obviously the other party doesn't care.

The funny thing is, you're basically telling them that they haven't the right to say it.

I think he's saying there's no point in using the phrase, because it doesn't stop the comment being made.

In my experience, the phrase also tends to be said (not typed) in quite a petulant tone of voice, and not backed up with evidence or reasons, which makes the speaker of the phrase sound quite immature and sulky.


He has a perfectly valid argument, I just think it's a bit ironic.

I never said they had no right to say it, I was just explaining the fallacy of the phrase.

Normally, I'd just put a "=P" in something when I make jokes lol.

Perfect.  I nominate this for "best comment of the month".

 I hope I don't blow it!

You have no right to say that we can't use the phrase, you have no right.


Rights?   Really ? 

How about "Temporary Privileges"?


(please excuse the cursing used in the video linked to, for those that are offended by such). 
 
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travw

8 years ago

Seriously, man, do you think you're so important that people will stop saying something, just because YOU said not to? Wow.

Yes, yes I do.  /sarcasm

That was not the point.  What I was saying here was that I thought the phrase was flawed.

Well, since he never said the words, "I command thee, for all time to not utter the phrase, "You have no right." I'm going to have to go with he doesn't think that (Out loud atleast.)

Well ever since I replaced my blog due to that joke, nobody can find it anymore.

Check the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

Depending on the context, the speakerer has every right to say "that" (Article 19 &, to an extent, Article 21), unless what he says is a contravention of another right.

The context that I was referring to was actually not legal and has nothing to do with what you linked, that's why I decided to post the topic.

"There are a bunch of phrases..."
  • I don't mean to be rude, but...
  • I don't mean to sound racist, but...
  • I don't mean to be personal, but...
  • I don't mean to be offensive, but...
  • I don't mean to sound overly critical, but...
  • I know I have a blog for this kind of rant, but...

Not all rights are of the legal type.