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UK Fuel Price Petition Answered

When I bought my Mini, I could not squeeze £20 into the tank.  Now a re-fill costs me £28-£30.

There is a petition waiting to be signed by at least 100,000 people in an effort to lower fuel prices.

It currently has 88,000+ signatures.

I've signed and ask you to sign to get this subject debated in parliament and hopefully get fuel prices down, the prices won't come down unless we try, and try hard to get the debate going.

Please sign it now at this link.

News: since posting this topic, the number of signatures has risen by over a thousand.

(Sorry, non-UK members, this is a UK-only petition, but if you know any Brits with a vested interest in fuel prices (ie, all of them), then please pass this on to them.)


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Nostalgic Guy

7 years ago

I often hear the "this isn't my problem because I don't drive" argument & my reply is always the same.
It does affect you because the problem isn't just about peoples cars.
Consider this, next time you buy something in a shop ask yourself how it got there? How did the raw materials get to the factory it was made in? How did the finished product get to the distribution centre?
You say you cycle, how did the materials to build it get to the factory? How did your bike get to the shop you bought it from? How do the spare tyres, inner tubes, brakes, & other spares your bike will need during its lifetime get to the shop? If you buy them online they still have to be delivered somehow.
When you can tell me that none of these things ever arrived by means that required the use of fuel, then you can tell me that this issue does not currently affect you.
Every product you buy has its own fuel cost, the cost to the maker of the materials, the factory that made it, the distributors & finally the shop that sells it to you, all those costs are passed onto the consumer & as a result even someone who never drives in their life is affected by the issue of fuel prices.

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scraptopowerNostalgic Guy

Reply 7 years ago

Never mind how they got there, what are they made from? You'll struggle to find any modern product (including food and fresh vegetables) that isn't made in some part from oil.

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scraptopower

7 years ago

That was quite a rant, I nearly gave up half way :o
So long as you assume no one has seen you and will run you over, cycling can be pretty safe :|

They'll probably always be oil in the ground it just gets less economical (and an lower and lower energy return) to drill. Some say we've already passed peak oil, but we'll not know for sure until well after the "event".

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Kiteman

7 years ago

Sometimes the skeptics need upsetting.

Actually, quite a few of them need a good slap - avoiding the problem because of a lack of absolute proof (something, by the way, which does not exist in science) will not make the problem any less real. They're as bad as the "evolution is only a theory" creationists.

If you'll take the opinion of this old scaremongerer, there is no single answer or solution to the loss of fossil fuels. Solar can't do it, wind, wave, biomass, none of them can do it, not alone.

Whatever solution humanity comes up with, it will have to be a combination of solutions, tailored for the needs and resources of each context. When you get to that bit of your education, I want you to keep an eye on the wider picture, and persuade your lecturers and classmates to work on a many-part solution.

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Kiteman

7 years ago

There's no "apparently" about fossil fuels running out. It's hard to be accurate, since new technologies allow us to access more and more difficult reserves, but it is likely that the oil will be gone within your lifetime, possibly before you retire.

If that's not enough to give you nightmares, I don't know what is...

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Nostalgic Guy

7 years ago

Signed and forwarded to all my friends plus a couple of forums I am involved with.

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Lithium Rain

7 years ago

You have too much faith in democracy. :P

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KitemanLithium Rain

Reply 7 years ago

This is democracy in action - if the petition reaches 100,000 signatures, the government is required to discuss the proposal in the Commons.

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JamesRPatrickKiteman

Reply 7 years ago

When I first read the topic I thought 100,000 was pretty useless, but that's cool that in the UK it actually does something.

I got gas for $3.35/gallon yesterday and that's the lowest I've seen it in over a year. Better get off my butt and start working on that biodiesel rig.

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NachoMahmaKiteman

Reply 7 years ago

.  But are they required to actually _do_ anything?
.  I wish you luck, but believe that the Gobmint is going to be impotent against the market. If you pay less for gas, you'll have to pay more for something else.

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jessyratfink

7 years ago

I love that people in the UK actually get a petition going, while people in the US only post on facebook and have "no gas" days.

Which are pointless because every person that didn't buy gas one day will just have to run out the next because their SUV drinks it all up. :P

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Kitemanjessyratfink

Reply 7 years ago

There was a move to persuade folk to only buy from local, small-company garages, but there are too few around the country to make a difference.

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Twinmum

7 years ago

So what are you paying for fuel these days?
At the moment here the price bounces around between about $1.20 and $1.40AU a litre, depending on when and where you buy it. That would work out at about $4.90 a gallon or 85p a litre (if I've done my calculations right)

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KitemanTwinmum

Reply 7 years ago

The petrol station down the road is currently charging £1.319 per litre. Some are over £1.40, and diesel is more than that.

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bowmaster

7 years ago

I'm in the US, so we have pretty cheap prices compared to some I've seen in Europe. It still costs me ~$45 to fill up, but I can drive over 420 miles on that.

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Kitemanbowmaster

Reply 7 years ago

I remember, when I was there last century, being amazed at how low the fuel prices. You were paying a lot less for a gallon than we were for a litre, and yet the US news was full of people moaning about the soaring price of fuel...

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bowmasterKiteman

Reply 7 years ago

Yeah, it's still kinda expensive for me, but I'm a high schooler with an income of a few hundred bucks a year, so everything is expensive to me.

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Twinmum

7 years ago

Not in the UK, but I posted a link on my facebook for my UK friends