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Whale hunting season, begins again... Answered

Just interested in how "ible" members felt, about Japanese whaler's entering protected zones for the purpose of research.. This is also the first year they will be escorted by an Australia research vessel to gather documentation to use against this process. The fleet has recently set sail for our southern water's with the intention of harvesting humbacks for the first time in decade's. The Australia Anti whaling vessel's, as usual should provide for an interesting event... So what I'd like to know is, since the rest of the world say's NO to whaling why do we not as global power's tell the Japanese to cease... I'm not talking everthing, but atleast during migratory season when they are in sanctuary's and sitting duck's... STOP TALKING ABOUT IT AND STOP WHALING NOW!! Whale can't taste that good, make a synthetic version like fake crab.... fake whale... they need to wake up and deal with it... they are not theirs to take. They are our's, so leave them alone...!!

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Lftndbt

10 years ago

This report is yet to be confirmed.. Japanese official's concerned with the worldwide interest in the harvesting, have declared that no humback's will be taken this season.. :) YaY!! Atleast another year of no humback harvesting... Poor minky and sperm whales though... :(

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Lftndbt

10 years ago

How does everyone feel about the "Sea Shepard's" aggresive protesting strategies? Like the "can opener"... Should it not be used? Or should it be modded with serated teeth and ti-nite coating? Better yet what idea's do we have that could improve this idea? I'm thinking huge metal cutoff saw on a extendable arm... ROFL

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Lftndbtroyalestel

Reply 10 years ago

Then what do you do? ;) Sit back and watch them become extinct? Everyone is taking about it but no one is doing anything... Are far as i'm concerned the sea shepard should not even be there. And this all should not be happening.. Australian's have backed just about every country that has needed assistance in the past. On numerous occasion's we have suffered heavy casualties, in the name of what we felt was just and true.. I believe we have earnt the right to be respected as a nation. it's time for the Australian government to stop being follower's and start being leader's. They need to let it be known, that we will not tolerate this "research"..

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royalestelLftndbt

Reply 10 years ago

You find the name and number of your government representatives, and pester them. Then, you inform other people with facts (make sure they are facts! Some activists do not, for impact purpose, and it undermines all their efforts when the truth is later found out.) You ask others to contact their representatives, or sign a petition. Personally, I would choose a more important issue to spend my time on. Genocide in Sudan, for example.

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Lftndbtroyalestel

Reply 10 years ago

Have you read anything about whale preservation? Much pestering has been done, many people have been informed, they all have the facts. But still this continue's under the guise of "research". I don't think your understanding the point. Our government would send our Navy to stop this, but due to the "research" clause, legally they cannot.. And I have spent what time I believe necessary on this cause.. Perhaps next week I could try resolving the genocide in sudan... But for the moment, the whaling topic has been the dominant issue on Australian media. Hence this topic. ;)

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royalestelLftndbt

Reply 10 years ago

The facts on such topics change all the time. More pestering could be done, and if Japanese fishermen can perform their "research" through a legal loophole, then perhaps your government could perform an ill-timed "exercise" in the are that happens to run off whales from all the sonar. Loopholes can go both waves. More pestering on specific actions (i.e. "Representative, I want you to find a loophole to allow us to interrupt this "research".) Heck, you could just have a competing "research" project involving Whales-warding methods. That you could do yourself, actually.

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Lftndbtroyalestel

Reply 10 years ago

Bare in mind, the whale is an ocean dwelling migratory mammal. Therefore it should not only be, my governments problem. Let alone my problem... ??? I'll have to knock off early from work one day, so I can throw together a competing "research" team... LoL .. I can only imagine the amount of funds, that would have to go into keeping the formerly Sea Sheperd now Steve Irwin afloat....

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royalestel

10 years ago

I don't know much about this topic, but I can spout my ingorant opinions anyway! How is a hunting trip "research"? Why hunt whales and sharks at all? What is the point?

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Lftndbtroyalestel

Reply 10 years ago

They taste good, apparently... Researching how tastey they are??

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royalestelLftndbt

Reply 10 years ago

Well, comments seem to imply they actually don't taste good, and the primary reason for killing sharks is to get the fin to make shark fin soup, which is said to have aphrodesiac (sp?) or, um, "male enhancement" qualities.

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Lftndbtroyalestel

Reply 10 years ago

I'm sure they taste fine if not good. But that doesn't mean you need to harvest them..

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Bran

10 years ago

Due to the fact that it isn't an instant kill, I'm definitely against it. It's cruel.

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LftndbtBran

Reply 10 years ago

The whole "drowning" thing really get's to me... Imagine being dragged by your feet, your head being slightly submerged until you didn't have the energy left to process the rare gulp of air you get... Makes me very :(

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ll.13

10 years ago

A country should have a Navy to deal with poaching fishing vessels. We (U.K.) have aircraft patrolling our seas, but what are they for? they're keeping tabs on our fleet, not defending the borders.

I have nothing against hunting whales, it's an excellent source for food, just like beef, I am against hunting for the sake of it. but if you're using (eating, clothing, fuel) the dead mammal then it's fine.

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Lftndbtll.13

Reply 10 years ago

Any normal mammal, I would not have a problem with hunting. Yet one's bordering on extinction, I believe to be a completley different matter .. Unfortunatley due to the disguise as "research" vessel's our Australian Navy cannot do anything... They are not encroaching on Australian border's. If they were to enter our boundry's, they would be swiftly boarderd and arrested...

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Goodhart

10 years ago

There has been evidence that even whale "watching"; the tourist type, not the research type, is disruptive enough to make their numbers dwindle. If one country is against the hunting and supports tourism around them, preventing them from growing normally, well can we say this is hypocritical ? Obviously the most harm comes from destroying them directly, but if we mess up their lives to the point they can not reproduce, are we any better? Even if given the opportunity, as much as I would love to see them, I personally would not participate in one of the watches either.

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LftndbtGoodhart

Reply 10 years ago

I don't like that much either... However, many people's sole income comes from the tourist's generated by whale watching.. I'm not sure about the rest of the world but Australia has strict distance rules, in relation to proximity to the whales.. Generally this rule is broken by the whales resulting in close quarter contact. I think as a general rule, if you have the priviledge of viewing something as biologically sensitive as a whale. You should have the decency, good sense not to disturb it. This includes letting it become aware of your presence. I think it would be better us stick to clifftops etc when viewing.. We have done enough damage already. No need to bother them too. :)

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KentsOkay

10 years ago

I am apposed to the manner in which they hunt whales and sharks. I mean come on, how good could this stuff really taste? The population is to low to even support humane hunting.

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LftndbtKentsOkay

Reply 10 years ago

So am I. If it was an instant kill, then perhaps it would appear more humane.. But there have been many cases of whales being dragged backward's, under water for literally hour's before death has occured from drowning.. Very cruel... :(

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Kiteman

10 years ago

They say it's "scientific" - has anybody seen a paper published by the hunters? They don't even have the commercial outlet anymore. Whalemeat is a traditional part of the Japanese diet, but only because it was easy meat. Now they have loads of other sources, the consuming population has realised that it tastes foul, and don't buy it - a large part of the meat sold is as dog food. The whole thing is obscene and pointless.

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LftndbtKiteman

Reply 10 years ago

Well that's it isn't it.. If they were actually producing and publishing some relavent information, that could actually heap preserve whales. We might give them more credit..

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Brennn10

10 years ago

I am against the practice of whale hunting. It is down right cruel. I support those who go out and stop the actions of those fisherman that do hunt whales.

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LftndbtBrennn10

Reply 10 years ago

Yes me too... It brings a smile to my face every time the protestor's come up with a new idea... Like the "can opener" LoL That thing is fantastic. I have heard rumours that it will be making another appearance this year, but with some new modifications. ROFL :) I have a feeling that the Australian research vessel (equiped with machine guns), might play a larger role than just research... As in if the Japanese become excessivley agressive to the protestor's, it might become interesting...

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gmoon

10 years ago

Just interested in how "ible" members felt, about Japanese whaler's entering protected zones for the purpose of research..

Quoting from an article on time.com:

Under a loophole in the 1986 International Whaling Commission (IWC) ban against commercial whaling, Japan has continued to kill hundreds of whales every year for scientific research. Once a whale is killed, scientists collect data from the animal's remains on its age, birthing rate and diet; the meat is then packaged and sold.

The article is here.

I don't have a problem with whale hunts that are deeply rooted in cultures such as Inuit. But they're relatively isolated kills.

At his point, all the whale hunt byproducts can be produced synthetically. Except for meat for human consumption, which seems the worst possible reason for a hunt in the first place...