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Why would you allow this!?!?!?! Answered

https://www.instructables.com/id/Make-a-silver-ring-for-25-cents/
I am sorry to whomever posted this but this is illegal! And I think it should be removed! You can not do that to coins and should find a better way to make rings.. it is wrong. We are spending are tax dollars for these to be made. 

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Dr Qui

8 years ago

Its not illegal, just idiotic.

I don't understand how anyone is stupid enough to destroy a quite valuable and scarce coin to make a ring.

I was lucky to find an Irish silver 1966 5 shilling coin about 15 years ago.  to make it into a ring would be unforgivable as there where not a overly large number of these coins minted.

People who destroy old silver coins to make poor quality jewelry have no respect for either their culture or history

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kelseykat2

8 years ago

I did not want to post it on a forum! I just wanted to make the site aware. I am sorry if I offended anyone for supporting being legal. I mean I do not mean to be a party popper. I am sorry If I came off that way. It just really aggravates me. :[ I think there should be a certain amount of respect to our government.

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steveastroukkelseykat2

Reply 8 years ago

Why does your goverment "deserve respect" ? We are their masters, not the other way round.

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steveastroukkelseykat2

Reply 8 years ago

As Rhino points out
From the US Department of Treasury FAQ http://www.treas.gov/education/faq/coins/portraits.shtml#q13: "Section 331 of Title 18 of the United States code provides criminal penalties for anyone who 'fraudulently alters, defaces, mutilates impairs, diminishes, falsifies, scales, or lightens any of the coins coined at the Mints of the United States.' This statute means that you may be violating the law if you change the appearance of the coin and fraudulently represent it to be other than the altered coin that it is. As a matter of policy, the U.S. Mint does not promote coloring, plating or altering U.S. coinage: however, there are no sanctions against such activity absent fraudulent intent."

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Kitemankelseykat2

Reply 8 years ago

This is an internationally-used site.

I'm in the UK, and the Instructable is not illegal over here. In fact, since the project renders the coin as very obviously "modded", it is illegal in almost none but the most hard-line nations.

(Out of curiosity, do you berate those various tourist locations across the US that host the machines that turn small change into long, oval souvenirs? I believe there are several around Disney World.)

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Lithium Rainkelseykat2

Reply 8 years ago

Nobody's offended, and this isn't some kind of bad-boy outlaw born-to-be-wild forum - we simply have, as kelseymh pointed out, nothing to support the claim that the activity in question is illegal, and in fact have evidence to show that it IS legal.

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kelseykat2

8 years ago

It is illegal in the US.

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steveastroukkelseykat2

Reply 8 years ago

It isn't. Like most countries, its illegal to deface the coinage AND PASS IT OFF, but mutiliating it like this isn't intended to pass it off.

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kelseymhkelseykat2

Reply 8 years ago

Provide a citation to support your claim. We've already had one accurate citation which demonstrates that you are wrong. If you have case law which contradicts the statement of the U.S. Department of the Treasury, then provide it. Otherwise, your unsubstantiated asssertions will not be taken seriously.

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NachoMahma

8 years ago

. Why would you sign up just to make that comment?

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kelseymhNachoMahma

Reply 8 years ago

Sniff...sniff...hmmm....what's that smell? Oooh, I think it's troll!

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caitlinsdadkcls

Reply 8 years ago

and why don't ya'll in the front sit down so I can enjoy the music and scenery?

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MichelMoermans

8 years ago

Oh noes! The terrorists are making rings now to turn over our economy! Whas eva shall we does?

Seriously, it's not against the law and not many people will make rings out of quarters. Those who do won't really care about it being illegal (which it is not) either. And I wouldn't see a cop arresting you over it

"Cuff him boys... I'm sure he got a dented quarter in his pocket somewhere..."

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kelseymh

8 years ago

Not illegal, and not wrong. The penny presses you find on midways are not illegal either. If you don't like the project, that's certainly an opinion you're entitled to, but you'll make a better impression if you have facts on your side.

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caitlinsdadkelseymh

Reply 8 years ago

< penny presses - better impression, pun well played, back on par, good Sir >

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paperrhino

8 years ago

From the US Department of Treasury FAQ http://www.treas.gov/education/faq/coins/portraits.shtml#q13: "Section 331 of Title 18 of the United States code provides criminal penalties for anyone who 'fraudulently alters, defaces, mutilates impairs, diminishes, falsifies, scales, or lightens any of the coins coined at the Mints of the United States.' This statute means that you may be violating the law if you change the appearance of the coin and fraudulently represent it to be other than the altered coin that it is. As a matter of policy, the U.S. Mint does not promote coloring, plating or altering U.S. coinage: however, there are no sanctions against such activity absent fraudulent intent." According to this, it is not illegal to alter the coin as long as you don't try to pass the coin off as unaltered. As for the cost, the amount it takes to make a quarter varies depending on the price of metals but is usually around 10 cents. Even if we are optimistic and say 10,000 rings are made, we are seeing a cost of $1000. It costs more for everyone to have that jar of pennies then it is costing us to allow people to make these rings. Of all the things to get upset about, this really isn't worth while.

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Kiteman

8 years ago

[citation needed]

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Brennn10

8 years ago

I really doubt that there are enough people making these rings to make a dent in our federal spending.

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scraptopower

8 years ago

It's better to keep the money out of circulation, it'll cost us more otherwise. In the UK I think it's only illegal if you deface coins for profit. They're unlikely to care about one coin ruined by one person in any case.