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ideas for a Christian based instructable. Answered

does any body have a idea for a good Christ based instructable? we could make a colaberation and make a really great instructable that would convert a lot of people.

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Interesting. I have never been on a page like this. Certainly feels great to be outside of facebook! ;)

What would you even do in the instructable? You CREATE stuff on this website. YOU not god or whatever. But yeah, going so far to use a DIY site to convert people is going too far. It makes you look bad.

make a really great instructable that would convert a lot of people.
Sorry but that just sounds as if converting people into christianity is a really good thing. As if people who aren't christian don't understand anything about christianity & need "help" and "support"

some dont. some are fuzzy. some know a lot about it, but, unfortunately, refuse to accept the truth.

1. Check the dates of comments you are replying to.

2. Define "truth".

I'm lost as to how someone found this, this topic is going on 6 years old. I haven't been around enough to know, is there a way to disable comment on an old forum forum topic, or is deleting it the only option?

Google is probably to blame.

As far as I know, the only way to prevent more comments is to delete it.

It's not causing any harm, though, and is tending to keep conversations on the same theme in the same place.

It's true, I imagine it's not as hard to find as I think it is. Ah well, I'll leave it then. If it manages to lead to some decent discussion then I'll be happy.

if you dont clear your internets periodically it will only show topics /instructables that are like 4 yrs old.

1. I did and decided it didn't matter.

2. Human beings, due to the sin of Adam, were, are, and will be until the Second Coming of Christ, born with an evil sin nature. This is the part of you that wants to gratify your evil desires, and it is the part that goes against God. As God cannot have sin in His presence, humanity would be doomed to Hell for eternity. God loved humanity so much, however, that he instead sent a part of Himself, Jesus, to take mankind's penalty for eternity in the space of a few hours. This was what happened as Jesus was dying on the cross. Three days later, He was resurrected. After spending some more time with his disciples, Jesus went back up to Heaven. Now, in order for you to avoid an eternity in Hell, all you have to do is believe what I just told you. Accept that you have a problem (sin), and that Jesus removed that problem by taking your punishment on the cross. If you do believe this, then after you kick the bucket you will go to Heaven and stay forever.

P.S. Sorry about the Halo vs. Star Wars format argument.

(Note, this is an intellectual argument, not intended in a spirit of animosity)

Why should we accept your Truth, over the similar Truths of Islam, Buddhism or the Hopi Indians?

Why should we accept your Truth, when it contradicts the evidence we see around us?

Actually, i was thinking of doing a paper origami cross, this would easily fit on this website, and be Christian based, also, alot of projects like the 'How to thanks instructables' share a Christian moral standpoint of giving. Also, both reviving old topics and hating on religious people will do nothing but annoy people..

...share a Christian moral standpoint of giving...
Ah, so giving is a Christian value. Of course. Because without Christianity, we would all just go around raping, killing, and pillaging.

Theologically, christian morality, and Christianity can be very different. By morally christian, i am saying morally like jesus, and, if you actually read the bible, whether you consider it fiction or not, the charictor of jesus symbolizes a 'morally perfect human'

But if you mean morally like Jesus, why couldn't we use a different religions' character for the term? Morally like Horus?

Well, jesus is the figure that i, and most people are familiar with. Im not sure who horus is. It would seem your looking for an argument.. i will not entertain such stupidity.

Egyptian god or Goa'uld System Lord (deceased, ko'ed by SG-1), take your pick.

Jake, I agree with Stake's underlying argument here. The statement you actually made,

alot of projects like the 'How to thanks instructables' share a Christian moral standpoint of giving.

certainly gives the appearances of divisiveness and discrimination. On it's face, it clearly presumes that only Christians have a "moral standpoint". That is unfair and inaccurate.

Not at all, i guess it is a PC term that we use over here, essentially, its a way of saying that a person believes and follows all the christian models that underlay our society through a history of a mainly christian society. eg, alot of handed down values stemming from christianity. also note, that i didn't specify it as the only standpoint, and that project shared the set of moral guidelines. Also, this is a clear reminder of why religious conversing is better reserved for a chatroom, or real life situation.

I heartily agree with your last point, Jake :-)

Do you understand my other longer point about history and Christianity's big part in the development of our current culture?

Yes, I certainly understand and agree with the Christian background of your and my culture. Although I'd point out that my current culture (perhaps less than yours, I don't know enough about English history) includes a substantial contribution from Jewish morality

Now, i wish i was able to explain things like that in one comment...

Truth is, the community is that 'tight' on here, i often forget that people are on the otherside of the world.
I don't sleep normal times, so the time zones go out the window..

Without being PC, I would like to remind you that making a claim like "our society through a history of a mainly christian society" excludes a majority of the population, and definitely excludes a number of I'bles members.

Derinsleep, in Turkey, would probably not describe his "our society" as "mainly Christian." Neither Indians nor Chinese would describe their "our society" as "mainly Christian." I don't think Israelis would describe their "our society" as "mainly Christian."

Just something to keep in mind when generalizing from your personal experience.

Agreed, but i did clarify earlier about it being what me and my kinsmen are familiar with. Essentially explaining the original comment by relating it to my personal culture.

I am not looking for an argument, and am terribly sorry that you interpret an argument, debate, or me (not sure what you meant by the last line) as stupid.

I recently saw a documentary suggested Jesus was actually Horus. Much like Christianity has adopted pagan rituals and custom, the figure Horus was adopted from Egyptian mythology (there are a number of similarities). I am not saying this to be controversial, or to offend anyone, I'm just saying that there is a documentary about this theory

Are you sure it said Jesus actuallly was Horus, or rather that Jesus was derived from Horus.

I think derived, would be a better term, thanks, though documentary probably explains it better then I can. Its called The Pagan Christ.

Ah. It's also in "Zeitgeist".

It's more "expresses the value of giving thanks, a value which, coincidentally, is shared by Christianity (amongst other theological positions)";-)

Agreed, but also see my response to skate, which explains it better.

there are many instructables that tell you about something, and not how to do something.

this is not only a DIY site, goto the home page and read what it says in the blue bar at the top of the browser(i have firefox):

"make, how to, and DIY"

you can show someone how to accomplish something with out doing anything.

like a instructable on c++ programing, it does not really have a end product, but is very helpful and a instructable none the less.

You're very right, DSMAN! We have plenty of procedural I'bles. Some of them (How to thank Instructables, How to deal with harassment, Goodhart's T-Shirt) are among the best (and most "Christian," if you have to apply a discriminatory label) of anything on the site.

How are those "christian" Ibles? If its because the instructable has good morals or whatever, it doesnt mean it is christian.

Did you read the second half of my parenthetical? That was the point.

If your so against it, WHY DID YOU REVIVE THIS TOPIC???

blugyblug didn't revive the topic. "A good name" did (Jan 31), which started a short discussion between him(?) and Skunkbait.

This topic was like, 5th on the Life page.

What to do, what to do? Hmmmm....I've got a couple of really long 4x4's and these antique square nails. If I only had a hammer....

Thank you so very much for bringing this topic back up.

Thanks for strategy, my mind be open after read your plan and strategic

well im not good of thinking of instrucables but i was thinking something that would help christian teens spread the word of god to there friends and become more comfortable with there religion. kind of like what dare2share(dot)com

so you're also saying that nonreligious people have the right to say there is no god?

why do you want more people that don't believe in god to be christians..? that is the same thing as saying to religous people there is no god

I hate the idea of converting people. It just dosn't work and God made them the way they are and lets not question her. (Oh yeah, I said her)