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perpetual motion machine/device... Answered

ok, me and my friends were chatting on im on diff ways and ides for perpetual motion machines and i decided to make a forum about it. here is probably the best one, make suggestions, comments, and add your own ideas. ok, you have a tractor trailor or and vehicle for that matter, and you attach a turbine to the top with a fan/propeller/paddle like on the boats at busch gardens that catches air and spins faster as you pick up speed. once the driver has reached the desired speed, he turns the engine off and pulls a knob like on a lawnmower that gets the blade spinning from the motor, but in this case, it gets the wheel axel spinning from the fan thing at the top. the air/wind from the speed of the vehicle spins the fan thing, which spins the axle that spins the wheel that keeps the wind/air coming to the fan up top. if you think this will work, have any comments, or, can even test this out!(i dont have the recources) feel free to post your result or anything else you want to say. i will check and reply :)

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Friction of the tires on the pavement will slow it down to a complete stop.

Yeah it would work for a short time but it will eventually stop. Unless you can find a way to stop friction but then the tiers wont be able to move the car.........

There are other friction-losses - every joint, gear and belt in the machine will cause friction, air-resistance of the vehicle and the turbine blades are a form of friction, all of which lose kinetic energy through environmental heating. Minute twists and bends of the mechanism will transform kinetic energy into thermal energy within the mass of the device.

http://www.rexresearch.com/testatik/testatik.htm

Btw, it is true that there is no such thing as a perpetual machine, because energy cannot be created, it can only be transformed between different phases of energy.

The testatika sucks its energy from charged and ionized air particles apparently, so it is allegely a perpetual machine. But, if there is no air, it doesn't work, so is isnt a perpetual machine.

The testatika is really just a Wimshurst machine combined with some other electric circuitry. I dont know if you can call it a perpetual machine because it runs off of air, but we have tons of it anyway.

Yes. It's a hoax. Like all video examples I've seen, all sides of it are not shown to hide the true source of the power. A magnet equally repels as it attracts. Canceling one out just can't be done. Notice how the guy didn't spin the stick sample. It would spin better without the magnets.

The only way for your truck to perpetually move, is by making sure that the gradual lost of energy TO the environment (through friction etc), is constantly replaced by the energy supplied BY the environment. Unfortunately, that beats the ideals of a perpetual machine in the first place..

well, archer figured that the wind created by the truct moving(it gets to that speed by the moter, you can feel this wind by sticking ur hand out the windor when movin at 60mph) will move the fan, and, when engaged, will move the wheels to keep up the speed, which will keep up the wind turning the fan, which will keep moving the tires, which will keep up the wind turning the fan, which will keep moving the tires, which will keep up the wind turning the fan, which will keep moving the tires, which will keep up the wind turning the fan, which will keep moving the tires, which will keep up the wind turning the fan, which will keep moving the tires, which will keep up the wind turning the fan, which will keep moving the tires, which will keep up the wind turning the fan, which will keep moving the tires, which will keep up the wind turning the fan, which will keep moving the tires, which will keep up the wind turning the fan, which will keep moving the tires and so on... don u just love copy and paste?

. That might just work, if not for real-world frictional losses and energy conversion inefficiencies.

Do some research eh?
People have tried at perpetual motion machines for a very long time, and failed repeatedly.
What would (Star Trek) Scotty say about this?

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Yup, I tried making a perpetual motion machine when I was in the 8th grade for a science fair.......and it didn't work. :~( The longest I got it to spin was around 1 minute, then it stopped. I ended up buying like 36 neodynium maganets because of it.

If you use a vertical-axis turbine (like the "egg beater" sail in Waterworld), then this would work, but it wouldn't be perpetual motion. It would only work if there was some actual wind to turn the turbine, otherwise friction-losses would bring you to a rapid halt. I hate to burst your bubble, but there is no such thing as "perpetual motion", no matter how many hits you get on a google search.

You need to bend the laws of physics to make a perpetual motion machine. Friction and nasty old gravity are the two biggies to overcome. Figure out ways around them here on earth and you will be a mega jillionare....