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windows 7 is worth it, right? Answered

hi, i am building myself a new pc and was planning on installing windows 7 the specs are:
-3.2GHz pentium D
-No sata hdd yet...
-ATI radeon 256mb PCI-E Graphics card
-2 Gigs of ram
-and a dvd burner too

i was wondering, should i install windows 7, or just install good old windows xp?
PS: i plan on playing lots of games on this computer. (like trackmania, rainbow six lockdown, etc...)


YES, and I am no Microsoft fan.

Personally I would go to 4 gig ram. and use the 64 bit win 7. Most of my software has managed to cope with it.

Your going to want a LOT of storage space, good job terrabyte drives have become relatively cheap now.

i would upgrade to 4 gigs of ram, but you see, this computer was built entirely from free parts. and it was hard enough for me to find 2 gigs of ddr2 ram, maybe in the future i'll upgrade, i still have to find a sata hdd though.

Windows XP is old and only has limited suport from MS. If you want Windows, go with 7.


okay. i'll run 7. of course i'll install xp on my more lesser computers, like ones with 512mb of ram and such, but for this one, it'll be 7

Support for XP SP2 has ended, Microsoft have effectively finished with it. 64 bit SP3 will last longer, but it's still "olde hatte".


yes, but windows 7 needs at least 1 gig of ram, it'll never run on a 400mhz 512mb Ram machine.

I thought your spec' exceeded that?
I remember when a 66MHz 486 DX2 was "fast"...


they do, i was talking about a different computer, explaining that it wouldn't run very well on it.

.  +1
.  I'm still running XP on my two Windows machines, but it's getting long in the tooth and most developers are using their resources supporting newer versions.
.  Personally, I plan on switching to Linux next time I have to reformat the HDD on this computer. Already running Ubuntu on one machine. Because of the helper programs for my RAID cards are Windows-only, I'll stick with XP on that machine until I upgrade my cards.

why is it that so many people dont make ubuntu compatible stuff?

To be frank,

because Ubuntu and other flavors of Linux can't compete effectively with Windows. We have limited time to produce code, and supporting tertiary players, whose users are often foam-at-the-mouth haters of Windows and often times know-it-alls who really don't know all that much beyond being familiar with the unix command line and thinking that places them on par with technically literate people who gave that up for productivity when the Windows system moved into place following DOS back in the early 1990s, results in a decreased desire to support the community. Many, if not most Linux users are overly proud of their computer skills, just like Mac users with their overly padded paychecks.. As such, people like me tend to say to ourselves, "Ok, then write it yourself, since you're so f-ing smart"

Or, "it's down to marketing"?


Not really.

One need only look at the Hollywood blitzes Apple routinely uses, along with Burger King type snide advertisements to see that money and shiny, richboi marketing firms aren't enough to overcome a clumsy, closed-minded, fiscally elitist approach to the PC world, since they still only hold a marginal share, and since they've had to abandone their archaic hardware in favor of using the Wintel PC platform to support their OS (which is, aside from a shiny case, the primary difference between a PC and a MAC these days) .

Were it up to Apple, there would be no real "PC", just a computer system for the rich. If that's marketing to you, ok. It's not to me.

Finally, were it not for the Wintel backbone, there would be no Linux, since there would be nothing to use it on, and 95% of Linux users simply wouldn't be using computers, since mainframes aren't cheap by any measure. I have no doubt that the momentum developed by the Android OS will change that for Linux with time in the PC world, since it's on a Linux backbone and it appears to be quite popular and growing in popularity. Great. I love my Android. Reminds me quite a bit of Windows and the DOS mentality in general (as opposed to the 'thou shall pay a tithe to King Jobs for saying the word Apple" model of the Apple world)  But for the PC...it still has a long way to go and will imo require a drastic paradigm shift within the Linux community for "free free" to "pay" in order for it to succeed in functionally competing with Windows for years to come, regardless of inroads it has made with folks like google. In my experience, most avid Linux users outside enterprise level environments are still of the "napster" variety, expecting to download WIndows and other pirated code they can then use via wine and similar interpreters.

There are hardcore UNIX-users, but similarly to what you said, there is little to use it on.

I meant "can you draw a parallel with e.g. TV, with respect to shifting volumes" (I know that isn't what I said)


.  Economics.
.  As more and more "everyday users" adopt *ix (eg, Ubuntu*), things will change. Many companies already provide at least some support for the Linux community.
.  IMNSHO, Windows has become an outdated, bloated beast that can't last much longer without a top-down rewrite. It still works well, but is definitely showing its' age.
.  My RAID cards were the next-to-the-cheapest that I could find - if I had paid a little more, I might be able to get the supporting apps. From what I can tell, the cards would still work (they load from ROM before the OS), the company just doesn't supply the apps that sound an alarm if a drive fails, &c. I'll just have to make sure that the next cards I buy are Linux-compatible.

*If someone is thinking of converting to Linux, I highly recommend Ubuntu. It's a very easy install, even for the rawest newbie, and seems to work on most systems. If only Windows had such an easy way to find and install new (free!) software as Synaptic Package Manager.

As a replacement for Vista, emphatically yes. Vista was Not Good.

As a replacement for Windows XP... Questionable. Depends in part on whether you, or the software you want to run, really needs the new features.