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Electronic Swap Program -- Intrest Poll

Muff and I are in t3h (hehe) process of trading a few parts, he sent me some stuff I needed, I'm going to send him some stuff that he'll need.

Anyway, it brought up an idea: An Electronic Swap Program!

It'd work where you'd send stuff that you have tons of to someone, and they'd send you stuff they have.

This is really a great way to get stuff you need -- and the parts end up being cheaper, since you try to send parts that you have in bulk. (Its cheaper to buy in 1K quanities than 1)

I'm just trying to see if theres interest. The plan, ATM, would be something like this:
Send parts and $2** to me
I use $2** to send you a mix of what people, and myself, have donated.
You get parts and are happy. (happy or die!)

**Outside of USA: I'd probably have you guys go online to our postal service's site, and buy the postage for me, and send it to me to print out. Or just send me more monies.

(You end up paying postage both ways)

$2 is just a guess on how much it'd cost. Muff's package to me cost $1.14 -- so $2 seems about right.

If you're interested, or have a suggestion, lemme know!

whatsisface6 years ago
Sounds good, but something would need to be done regards goods of a similar value, so one person doesn't get ripped off, and something to stop people exploiting it for free stuff.
zachninme (author)  whatsisface6 years ago
& Re: W'burg
Yeah -- I'd probably setup some form of currency -- 10 LEDs = 1 555 timer, etc. (Maybe the base should be LEDs?)
I could also just look up the prices, and then do it from that... although that could get complicated...

Also, I'd really like it to *only* stay here at 'ibles -- for dah-dah reasons :P
BWAHAHAHAHA! I don't think you want to set up a currency in the form of LEDs.... I'd be so overly wealthy that I could just "steal" stuff from everyone else... ....not that I'd do that or anything.... ;-)
zachninme (author)  T3h_Muffinator6 years ago
Hehe --- but you just have a lot of stuff, period
If someone had 100 555 timers, they could probably buy everything too ;-)
Well then.... I guess it's good that I have 100 555's and 15,000 or something LEDs.... isn't it...
I'm in a similar ballpark to you. My dad asked me last week for "107 red LED's" for a project he's doing and I had enough to be able to ask him "Ultra bright ones or standard?" I also have an abundance of 555's and 4017b's.
Cool! =)

Are 4017b's kind of like shift registers?

Decade counters =]
whatr those?
zachninme (author)  T3h_Muffinator6 years ago
*What are ;-) (REVENGE!!!)
lol
zachninme (author)  T3h_Muffinator6 years ago
*Hahaha! That was quite hilarious, Zach! You are funny! I should give you money! And free things, and more money!
T3h, this should answer your question: 4017b Decade counter link
but.... simpler, I guess. You can only start with 1 bit on the "a" output, rather than select the bits that you want to be shifted.
Isn't that basically just a 10 bit shift register?
NachoMahma6 years ago
. I'd love to see something like this! I have a lot of old components, including NOS, that are just taking up space in my garage. I wouldn't want to trade for more electronics, but I'm sure most ppl have something I'd be interested in. Heck, for a lot of it, a SASE and a buck for my time would work. Here's something I'm trying to get rid of, thought not exactly SASE material.
. The biggest problem I can see is maintaining some degree of anonymity. I'm not that worried about giving out my address, but a lot of other ppl are. What guarantees would they have that your site wouldn't get hacked and the address list stolen?
zachninme (author)  NachoMahma6 years ago
>What guarantees would they have that your site wouldn't get hacked and the address list stolen?
Oh -- I definantly wouldn't handle that on my site -- where did this "site" appear from? :P
I'd probably handle the addresses through the PM system - an external site, if used, would only be for inventory -- probably even hard coded.

There would, however, be a central hub -- although this doesn't have a point when there's only 2 traders, it gets better as more join in. If Muff donates 100 LEDs, I donate 1,000 Resistors, and you donate 10 ATMega8's -- Each person would get:
Me: 50 LEDs & 5 uCsYou: 50 LEDs & 500 ResistorsMuff: 500 Resistors & 5 uCs
(Ignore the fact that some people got better deals, assume all these trades are worth it)
That is just a better trade than just me and Muff, or Muff and you.

> where did this "site" appear from? . I just made it up. If the exchange becomes popular, handling communications via PM, &c, will become very unwieldy. If you restrict it to Ibles users, that should keep membership to a manageable level (maybe a dozen active traders). . . I'll guess that most ppl that would use the exchange wouldn't be too worried about making dollar-for-dollar trades. If I have surplus parts, I'm willing to trade at a discount for something I want. If I had 15K LEDs, like T3h_Muffinator, I'd be willing to barter at a penny a piece for them. heehee
zachninme (author)  zachninme6 years ago
Oh -- I forgot: They'd never have to say their address! If they send me, or the PO Box, or who/whatever a package, thier address could be either scraped from the return label, or a enclosed note ;-)
Goodhart6 years ago
It would come down to a few things. Would one know ahead of time what they were getting (not just a grab bag where they may feel their $2 was not well spent) and then there is the problem of addresses. I am not sure how anyone feels about it, but I wouldn't want a youngster in my care to be sending my address out to persons unknown. Not that I don't trust you all, but really, when it comes down to it, I don't really know any of you "close and personal" if you know what I mean. Locally, it may work better.
Well... do you trust me? I could evaluate the quality of his handling/other stuff for you if you'd like.... I trust him, though. He's a nice kid under that "less than" sign...
zachninme (author)  T3h_Muffinator6 years ago
YOU WILL BOW DOWN! It was an accident... it was suppost to be to the robot <_< (More <'s!)
zachninme (author)  Goodhart6 years ago
Yes-- The plan was to have people select their stuff before hand. As for the addresses -- I'm just trying to see if anyone wants to do it -- maybe ibles will host it... or maybe I'll just have to live a life of danger :P
Oh yeah, I was too sleepy to think about a central control or central address situation last night.
zachninme (author)  Goodhart6 years ago
Oh, I thought you were referring to *me* and *my* danger :P
(My Address would be semi-public, anyone wanting to trade would get it -- unless theres a PO box)
Ok, well as long as it would not foster ill will (is there a money back guarrantee with that? LOL) I think it would be great. (at one time our peerless leaders were attempting to create a barter tax....does anyone know if they came up with a plan....I would hate to see that)
gmoon Goodhart6 years ago
Well, it could work...on a let-the-swapper-beware basis.

On a personal note, I've exchanged stuff with fellow forum member (on another forum.) Although it wasn't setup strictly as a trade, I sent off an unneeded PSoC experimenters board (my original cost $0) to someone, who returned the favor by sending an unwanted Digi portserver (his cost $0, retail ~$380.)

One messy wrinkle: quite a few participants here are minors, and I'm sure their parents would be uncomfortable with the prospect.
Goodhart gmoon6 years ago
That would be the reason for a centralized po box, where no one "out there" would get an address to anyone else; at least not without prior approval.
zachninme (author)  Goodhart6 years ago
Yeah -- I was looking to to POboxes, where I could just get the box, and it'd be safe enough (the closest you could get is town -- which you could figure out from my IP)

Its $48-$10 for 6 months for the smallest one, depending on "Zone" -- if I'd have to go up into the $48 range -- maybe the "fee" could be bumped up to $4-$5 ($48 for six months = $7 for 1 month, so I'd need 3.5 $4 trades, or 2.3 $5 trades to equal it out -- something easily manageable)

I think the best would be $4 -- because shipping my stuff *there* will cost me a few bucks. I'd be willing to part with $6 and soem random parts I've collected to get $10-$15 of stuff that I need.
Brennn106 years ago
I would definitely be interested, it sounds like an awesome idea, and pretty legit. Zach, you are awesome with Java, and html?, so you could start a site! I think it is a great idea!
zachninme (author)  Brennn106 years ago
When did I become awesome w/ Java?
I'm a Python and Javascript guy, for the record :P (I know Java, but I'm not awesome :P)

Yeah -- I was thinking of just starting a little inventory site -- nothing huge, just a way to keep track, and order, and stuff -- while staying tied in to ibles.
I just took a swing at the programming languages you knew, because you helped with a code clearing KNEX for certain people. Anyway, it sounds like a good idea, keep it going.
zachninme (author)  Brennn106 years ago
Nah -- don't worry about it, just pullin' your leg :P
I've seen a few places like that before, seems like it would work well, until it gets too big, and people start trying to think of ways to scam it.
guyfrom7up6 years ago
they have this stuff a lot in calafornia, but here in PA not that many ppl are inerested in electronics, well not as much as in CA
DIY Dave6 years ago
I thought of something like that but I was too lazy to post a forum on it :)
LinuxH4x0r6 years ago
It sounds great -I have tons of red leds (sorry, short leads) and 675 batteries (LR44 equivelent). Everything sounds good except the postage.
guyfrom7up6 years ago
seems like a great idea, but something just doesn't seem right I'm not sure how many ppl do it, but it's a great idea, if a bunch of ppl do it i might