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Homemade Vinyl Record Cutting

I've always loved recording my music onto computers or cassettes and it's always been a little dream of mine to put one or two of them onto a homemade vinyl record. Obviously this would be very lo-fi but it seems like it'd still be a fun project. Anyone know if this is possible or if they've done something similar? Way I would think it could be done is to reverse the wiring in side a record player into a microphone of some sort and replace the needle with a razor blade with a blank sheet of the certain type of vinyl?

BreadS129 days ago

HI, IS THERE SOMEONE OF YOU THAT SELL A VESTAX VRX-2000 OR ANOTHER MACHINE FOR CUT VINYL RECORDS (MAXIMUM 1000/1200$ !!) PLEASE CONTACT ME AT THIS EMAIL ADDRESS, BECAUSE IM SO INTERESTED ON BUY ONE A.S.A.P!! LET ME KNOW PLEASE

EMAIL ADDRESS: tropicaondabeach@gmail.com

BEST REGARDS,

Alessio

PlatterRecords11 months ago
Hello Guys, I would like to speak with Mr 'junes' or anyone who has a Vestax VRX 2000. We have a record cutting unit and would like to compare the cutting quality of the VRX 2000 against our cuts using PVC. Any owners of the VRX-2000, please mail us at platterrecords@hotmail.com as we would very much like to hear form you. Cheers. Scoobs.
You need to post a comment in reply to his comment (ie, hit the reply button, just as i have here), or he will not know you have replied.

Alternatively,. click on his user name, then click on "Private Message", and you can contact him directly.
Cheers Kiteman
See, it works!
astro boy2 years ago
FOUND IT! for vinyl recording without master templates, this person has created a recorder that uses a speaker joined needle, wax disks, and a hose connected to a vacuum cleaner to suck up the cuttings,
http://gieskes.nl/gramophonerecorder/gramophonerecorderE.htm
it has links to next step up the top,
http://gieskes.nl/gramophonerecorder/ bottom of this page has pictures of it.
hope its what your looking for.
junes astro boy2 years ago
I have a Vestax VRX 2000 vinyl cutter that I am selling that you might be interested in. I have about 35 vinyl blanks. Shortly after purchasing the cutter, vestax discontinued the product. I went to a one day training class, but you could easily figure out how to work the machine just by following the owner's manual. Even though, I bought the machine for close to $10,000.00, I am taking the best offer as it just sits in my band practice/recording room. I am older now and I am not into this anymore. I need the space, too. Here's is a link to some info on the cutter.

http://www.vestax.com/v/products/detail.php?cate_id=183

*Records in real time from any external sound source fed through either a power amp or mixer, by cutting onto special Vestax vinyl blanks at speeds of 33 1/3 and 45 rpm.

*Cut at 33 1/3, each vinyl blank has a total playing time of between 26 and 30 minutes.

*Recorded properly, the superb sound and individual warmth of each take/track is more than durable enough to handle repeated playing and even scratching.

*Each production is able to be played back instantly through the onboard ASTS tone-arm.

ACCESSORIES included:
* VCH-1: VRX-2000 Cutting Head in protective wooden box with high end sapphire cutting stylus.
* VRX-2000 Tool kit with all the implements you need to make perfect recordings.

Hi Junes,
Do you still have the vinyl cutting machine? If not, who did you sell it to? I would like to know more about your experiences with the VRX 2000. I have a Swiss cutter and are getting some great results. Mail me at platterrecords@hotmail.com

Cheers
Scoobs
Hi Junes, I am interested in the Vestax vrx 2000. Me and my friends from the fab academy in Providence RI, would like to experiment with it and maybe try to make an open source/DIY clone of it. We have $ 500 to offer. I know this is not much, but this is what we have. Thanks, Romain
Hi Romain,
Thanks for your reply. I was hoping for at least $1,000. Let me know if you are still interested as I am willing to work something out.
thanks
vinylj junes2 years ago
Hi Junes
If Romains' offer falls through, I would be very interested in buying this for $1,000.
Keep me posted.
Thanks


junes vinylj2 years ago
Hi Vinylj,

i'll keep you posted on it and hopefully be able to let you know either way soon.

thanks for your interest
junes
vinylj junes2 years ago
No problem, no rush.
Fast question, any ideal on where to purchase additional blank vinyls?
junes vinylj2 years ago
Hi vinylj,

I have not kept up to date on current suppliers. I have a few names and emails of people who have offered and sold the blanks to me in the past.
Please shoot me an email, so we can discuss further.

thanks

junes17@hotmail.com
vinylj junes1 year ago
Hi Junes
Sorry for the delay, is this still available?
thankyou
junes vinylj2 years ago
Hi Vinyj,

just checking...Are you still interested ?

junes
Hi Junes, Thanks for your answer. We are still interested in your Vestax. I spoke about it with my colleague and we can go up to 750-800 $. Do you think we can make the deal ? Thanks ! Romain.
Hi Romain,
Let me know if you are able to make another offer by tomorrow evening at the latest. Otherwise, I will accept the offer from vinylj.
Thanks for your interest
junes
Sorry:
Beau.skowron@gmail.com
Junes, please contact me at : romaindivozzo@hotmail.com. Thanks. R.
Hi Romain,
id be happy to discuss anything further. i just sent you an email.
junes



HI Junes,

I can buy the Vestax for the price you announced.I have a few things to verify before to confirm you i'll buy it. I still very interested in getting it.
We should also talk about it per e-mail. Romain.
Hey, I'm new to this sort of thing but let me know if you sold it or not. I could probably get you more than that ($1500?) so if you didn't sell it let me know cos I'm pretty keen.
hi michael here can you send some photos of your vestax vrx 2000cutter to my email address thanks ps i got your email thanks
do you still have it for sale im am willing to pay my email address is holden.mat@live.com.au my phone num is0458072269
LeRobot junes2 years ago
Hello Junes
I'd like to check into more details with you about your machine. Could you contact me at lerobot @ cheerful . com (all together). Thanks
Rubits (author)  junes2 years ago
Gah, if I had money I would take you up on the offer as I still would love to persue the idea, sadly I do not. What would be the craziest low you would be willing to take for the machine though? Pretty much can't afford anything over 100$...
sellit1 year ago
Here's a picture
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Sellit, I am interested in this record cutter. Would you accept $250 for this item? How heavy is this item, and where are you shipping from?
Sorry. Sold it on eBay.
sellit1 year ago
I have a Federal Recorder cutting machine. Powers up, but that's about all I know about it. My son purchased it at an auction. It was in a very large lot of fishing stuff.... Anyway, I don't know anything about it, just wondering its value and if anyone is interested in this cutter. I have not found a serial number or anything on it. It says Federal Recorder - Chicago. Thanks for any help you can give!
sellit1 year ago
I have a Federal Recorder cutting machine. Powers up, but that's about all I know about it. My son purchased it at an auction. It was in a very large lot of fishing stuff.... Anyway, I don't know anything about it, just wondering its value and if anyone is interested in this cutter. I have not found a serial number or anything on it. It says Federal Recorder - Chicago. Thanks for any help you can give!
vamprec1 year ago
Has anyone got a cutting machine for sale?

I am looking for a Vestax VRX 2000 or something very similar. I live in the UK but would be more than happy and prepared to import one from abroad. Cheers.
there is also something called the kingston dubplate cutter. i dont know if its still available though
eelmer2 years ago
junes..im interested in the vinyl cutter...therealencyte@gmail..hit me up..
bethinoly2 years ago
I tried making my own lathe for a long time, and gave up due to lack of mechanical knowledge, but it CAN be done, my friend did it (and then after getting a taste of extremely low fidelity success, quickly bought an actual lathe...)

However, the whole silicon mold idea works pretty well as long as you don't live in a super humid area. You will be surprised at how good the plastic dub sounds if you can keep the air bubbles out.

If people want to try that, I have several record lathes and would be willing to cut some one off records for people to use as masters for a small fee plus material costs. You can contact me through www.PIAPTK.com. Thanks! Mike.
lperkins2 years ago
If you're just looking to cut a record for novelty value, you might look at http://www.makershed.com/product_p/mkgk28.htm It should be modifiable for electronic input and output relatively easily.
vceteras2 years ago
How about 3D printing a master negative?
Then cloning it using silicon.

Wikipedia says (about 3D printing) : "Resolution is given in layer thickness and X-Y resolution in dpi. Typical layer thickness is around 100 micrometres (0.1 mm), although some machines such as the Objet Connex can print layers as thin as 16 micrometres.[9] X-Y resolution is comparable to that of laser printers. The particles (3D dots) are around 50 to 100 micrometres (0.05-0.1 mm) in diameter."

I don't know if that's enough, but you could have these steps:
- you need a computer program to generate a 3D object created from your mp3. this means processing your sound according to RIAA recording standards (also panning the bass to center), then the software has to translate each position in time on your track to a position in space on a spiral
- you need to pay for a high-precision 3D printing service, they would give you a plastic mold
- then you "pirate" the mold using this technique to get a playable record http://www.synthgear.com/2010/diy/how-to-pirate-a-vinyl-record/
choward73 years ago

I am also trying (unsuccessfully) to create a "record cuter." So far, I've found several ways how not to do it, but am going to keep on trying.
notic3 years ago
here ya go man... they're called one-off's here's an article on this topic.
http://www.retrothing.com/2005/09/recording_your_.html
AndyBurnout4 years ago
 I have been trying to make a little record cutter myself. Currently I've been practising cutting on the back of CDRs, though sadly the diameter of a CDR is too small for my record player to play and the tone arm rejects but what I've made seems to be cutting a nice groove.

To make my cutter I pulled apart an old radio for a 4" speaker, this is what will make vibrations while making the groove. I then tried several different methods of attaching a needle to the speaker, may latest involved using the top of a pen then gluing it on.

You need something powerful to drive the speaker, I use a little digital 8 track I have and turned up it vibrates nicely. I've then held my speaker by hand over the disc while I have my record player set on cue so it spins at 45rmp.

My next step is to mount the speaker on something so I can get it to run smoothly, I've pulled apart a printer and I'm going to use the track the ink tanks run on, it has a small motor on it but my knowledge about things like this is non existent so I'll most likely put a little crank on it and move it by hand.

I've seen people cut their records on acetate, plastic plates and the back of CDRs. I'm looking for plastic plates with a nice flat surface at the moment.
Rubits (author) 6 years ago
On here It shows this toy which makes these "one shot" foil type records. It appears to be done without any sort of press, my idea was to do something similar to this for releasing my own demos or singles, does any of this seem possible?
Rishnai Rubits6 years ago
If it proves impossible, it would still involve a very fun and informative process. I think it would be possible, though, somehow, to make your own records. Give it a shot, let us know how it goes!
Rishnai6 years ago
I would say that if you can build a precise enough CNC machine and program the computer, that would be the way to do it. Then press your metal blank into either vinyl or thermoplastic. You could use a wax disk and a carefully placed cutting needle that was attached to a lever that you attached (tape, maybe?) to a speaker diaphram that would be playing the desired audio. At high volume, probably. The recording would be in mono, not stereo or quad, but that would be okay, right?
gmoon6 years ago
Cool project idea! You'd need some sort of a wax or lacquer "blank" to start with. In a production sense, they start with the cut blank, then build up an electroplated "negative", separate that from the original and use that negative to create the vinyl.

But the original blank would play, also--but likely loose fidelity with every play. Chemical hardeners might extend the life of your original...

A stock record player couldn't be used to cut the blank. The phonograph arm just floats freely, which follows the groove in the recording. A precise way of advancing the cutting needle would be needed--for instance, mounting the needle on a threaded rod that rotates at a set speed, advancing the needle one thread for each rotation.

The density (grooves per inch) isn't really important (other than it effects the length of the recording), as any record player can deal with grooves that are varying distances apart...

This wiki link has a short section on home recording..
Do you know how it is done professionally? Its gets a bit confusing. They cut the audio into an aluminum master disk (you need a special record cutter thing to do this), it goes through a few nickel coating baths, they make a few positives and negatives, and eventually end up with the dies that stamp the music into the vinyl with heat and pressure. So I don't think you can really do this at home because of the cost and the space required for the equipment. Plus a lot of knowledge needed!!