Here are some creative uses of current sensors:
Real-time Web Based Household Power Usage Monitor
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What you need:
-cheap carabiner (what other use for those fake caribiners!)
-or use a $1 c-clamp for better results
-3' of small gauge wire
-a store bought clamp-on current sensor
Once complete, read your sensor with a millivolt meter ; such as, a multi meter, micro controller, arduino, etc
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Signing UpStep 1: Wrap the carabiner and calibrate
Next, slice/separate the wires of an extension cord in order to test/calibrate your CT sensor. If you try to sense both the load line and neutral line, the magnetic fields cancel and no current is induced.
Next, plug something into the extension cord. I used a space heater. Measure the amperage with a store bought clamp-on meter.
Calibration
I measured 11.8 amps with my Field Piece meter.
The field piece has been calibrated so that 1amp AC is equal to 1milivolt AC (1AAC/1mVAC). My Caribiner sensor measured 0.3 milivolt.
11.8 amps / 0.3 millivolts = 39 AAC/mVAC
We're done!
If you are considering putting this around any high voltage wiring, consider wrapping all exposed metal parts in electrical tape.








































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the analog reading is always 510.
any ideas?
probably the easiest way to plug this into your computer is to use the above link:
www.instructables.com/id/Real_time_Web_Based_Household_Power_Usage_Monitor/
and use the op-amp described (AD8820, AD627 or equivalent) but instead of plugging into the ioBridge you can plug it into an Arduino or something like this.. and use that to connect to the PC. hows that sound? fun... you go! :) Let me know.
I have lots of spare/junk components laying around but nothing elaborate like apics or arduinos or even any useful I/C's.
magnet wire is an insulted wire used in electric motors and electromagnets, so it's designed for inductance. I'm no EE, but it seems like this may improve the resolution of your readings, or make reading smaller currents easier. I could be wrong.
the digikey looks like ~$11 for a 1" diameter ring. I couldn't see the dimensions on the radio shack item but half the price. I'd really like to see how the performance matches up so I'll probably try one out eventually.... so you say there's ferrous in a monitor cable too? can you add to that, cause I didn't see any last time I checked.
You should get better results with iron than steel. whats the difference? from what I can remember, iron has more iron in it. Impurities are added to steel to make it stronger (~ 1% carbon for instance). Iron often appears rougher, darker, and rusts a lot easier.
regardless, I think you should get good results with the steel. what kind of AAC/mVAC are you getting?
1" is probably bigger than necessary for most applications. I was thinking about 495-3856-ND which has a inner diameter just under 1cm, which should be plenty to go around most any power cable I would measure, even with the thickness of the windings.
Ferrite is very brittle, so it is probably not feasible to cut it to make something that snaps together. However, for my application it is probably okay to have a solid ring (I would have to break the circuit to put the ring around one wire.
The Radio Scrap snap together choke would be a pain to wrap, because of its length. But, it does snap together - and is easily available. (Hard to justify a $1 digikey order).
I saw no deflection on my analog voltmeter set to a 300 mA range. I may not have given it enough load, though - I think I was drawing less than an amp.
At ~1/2 amp you would only see 1 mVAC on your voltmeter using an arrangement similar to the C-clamp. As you play around with materials you may also want to try more windings. Also, I tried once with uninsulated wires and it didn't work so don't go that route.
thanks for the lead on the monitor cables.... Sense I've been looking for ferrite it is kind of hilarious that it turned out to be so close.
By the way, Radio Shack has some toroids too, along with a different snap-together choke that might be much better for this application, although at $8, it alone breaks the $5 price point. www.radioshack.com/family/index.jsp?categoryId=2032273 at the bottom of the page.
Getting it working with the hobo was a little tricky. I had hoped to use the Hobo's 2.5VDC supply, but it is pulsed, so it only provides power during the sampling (plus about 20ms beforehand), which is once per second (or less frequently), so I ended up powering it with a little dc transformer I had kicking around.
Given that the solid toroid ferrite is so much better and cheaper than anything else, I think I'll go ahead with making a bunch of them. I don't really need a snap-together, since I plan on measuring circuits at the breaker box, and it is easy enough to turn off the breaker and remove the wire to slide the toroid around it. My goal is to have 8 of these running simultaneously (two 4-channel Hobo U12's).
iirc, electrical steel > ferrite > steel > Aluminum in terms of permeability
"You can improve inductance by making your wrappings tighter around the core."
Why would that be?
Inductance = (DiameterOfCore*NumberOfTurns^2)/(Length/Diameter OfCore + 0.43)
Nothing in the equation mentions the diameter of the wrapping, nor the distance between the wraps and the core.
Hmm Maybe Im using the wrong terminology here. But Basically, The closer your windings are to your core, The less empty space there is, the magnetic field lines can penetrate deeper and are more concentrated than if you wound a coil all willy-nilly. Since we are making a transformer (in essence anyway), There is mutual inductance (inductance shared by the 2 coils). It is given by the formula:
M = k*sqrt(L1*L2)
M is the Mutual Inductance
K is the Coupling Coefficient (<than 1)
and L1, L2 are the Inductors
Now For examples Sake, if L1,L2 = 5H, then our formula becomes
M = k*sqrt(25)
M = 5*k
We can easily see that If k was some Really small number, it would effect our mutual inductance. A small k would represent A very Horribly wound core, while a large K near 1 Would be A very tight core. You can look at k Like efficiency, ie the transfer of magnetic fields from one core to another.
My point in saying this is His cores look Poorly wound, so He may get better results by winding the coil tighter around the core.
upload.ecvv.com/upload/Info/200801/China_Product_C200835144238683422_ferrite_core_toroidal_core_transformer_bobbin_inductor_magnet.jpg
In other words, not have to 'clamp' or circle the metal core completely around the wire being sensed?
I dont of any place that sells Ferrite or Electrical steel, you can probably disassemble a transformer and take out the laminations from there.
You could probably use a square ferrite core, but how would you get it around the wire that you want to measure current from?
However, I think he actually means "sensitivity", which is the amount of change in output per change in input. He has expressed this as 1/sensitivity in his comparisons, so that smaller numbers are better.
(The difference between resolution and sensitivity is that a tiny resolution may be readable from the meter, but "in the noise", or below the noise level, so that changes that small may not actually represent changes in the measured signal.)
Measuring the voltage on the other hand gives you something like the rate of change of current times inductance. Even when calibrated for one load this will give wrong results with a different kind of load because the rate of change of current depends on frequency. Frequency is normally 60Hz or 50Hz depending on what country you live in, but the tricky thing is that electronic devices generate significant harmonics at higher frequencies. So, if you calibrate it using an incandescent light bulb it will not give proper results when measuring the power draw of a computer.
If you have an ammeter (i.e. the "amps" setting on a multimeter) then just use that. If you can't measure current and need to measure voltage (eg. for a microcontroller input) then put a 1 ohm or smaller resistor across the coil and measure the voltage across that. Use ohms law to convert the voltage to current, then multiply by the number of windings, and you end up with the current running through the power cable. Keep in mind that the waveform is typically not sinusoidal so many multimeters will not give you the proper reading.
Real-time Web Based Household Power Usage Monitor
The idea is to interface the meter with an online usage analyzer like Google's Powermeter. This device would serve organization or communities trying to understand reduce their energy use. This could be 3rd world country application or your local neighborhood communities. Let me know if you would like to collaborate. I'm really close... I've got half the PCB board designed and fabricated. -thomas