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A Swing Set that Generates Electricity

A Swing Set that Generates Electricity
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'Id just like to say first off that my electrical knowledge is very limited, and I'm sort of feeling my way around in the dark. If you have a better way of doing this, I'd love to hear about it. Also we are taking ideas for what to power.
*(UPDATE) The swing set performed well at the Bay area Makers Faire this past weekend 5/21/11. Having replaced the 44 tooth driven gear with a 112 tooth gear we were able to produce around 9 volts consistently. At 6 volts we had 0.3 Amps and 1.2 Watts. We were able to run 12 volt LEDs well, as well as 9 volt EL wire, and a 9 volt electric keyboard at the same time. We believe that with an additional gear reduction we will consistently produce 12 volts. Look for it deep in the outer Playa this year. Here is a video of it at the Makers Faire:

Also, this is my first Instructable so please bear with me. Hope you enjoy it.'

This project was done in Collaboration with and would not have been possible with-out my good friend Ryan Alpers.
Also I would like to thank Reid Johnston, Matt Gil, and Baker, and the good people at Bearing Agencies in SF for technical insight.
And Thank you to Cork Marcheschi for the use of his studio and equipment.

*(UPDATE) I wanted to make clear that the magnet rotor plates are very heavy and act as a flywheel, smoothing but not "bumping" the power. Also the chain does not move back and forth, but in a single direction. The swingers only affect the drive shaft when they swing forward, on their return trip the roller clutches freewheel back, also allowing the swingers to regain momentum. Thank you for all the interest! 

After building Hugh Piggott's http://www.scoraigwind.com/ Axial Flux permanent magnet motor and adapting it to a stationary bicycle, i wondered what else i could use to make small amounts of electricity. After polling friends and family for old play ground equipment, a friends parents donated an old swing set. It was built ages ago but super sturdy and after a little TLC it was ready for a new life.

The design was pretty straight forward, i used Mcmaster Carr and some local (San Francisco) companies for the machinery. It basically went together over a couple of weekends. I used Hugh Piggott's generator since i had already made it and like the design for low speed low torque applications, but i guess anything else like an alternator or treadmill motor would work as well.

Materials used included 4 pillow blocks, 4 roller clutches, 9ft of keyed drive shaft, standard steel tubing, around 20ft of angle iron, a lot of lag bolts washers and nuts, a rear bicycle hub with a disk brake attachment point, a couple single speed rear bike gears, some motorcycle chain, a bunch of shaft collars, 4 pipe collars, and a gear that fit the drive shaft.

tools used included a standard 110 mig welder, porta-band, files and rasps, rubber mallet, angle grinder, misc hand tools like screw drivers etc, drill press, hand drill, marine anti-rust spray, plumbers wrench, vise grips, and a motorcycle chain breaker and assembler.


 
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Step 1Deal with the swing set

deal with the swing set
We were lucky to have a swing set donated which made the project a lot easier and cheaper. A friends parents had inherited it when they bought their house. it had probably been sitting in the same place in the backyard since the bomb shelter it was above had been there.

In any event, it was 1/4' steel and built very ruggedly. Surprisingly after spraying some marine anti-rust into the joints and using a couple plumbers wrenches it came right apart.

After getting it back to our shop, we cleaned and removed as much built up rust flakes as we could. a stuck bolt led to drilling and re-tapping for a larger bolt, and all other hardware was replaced.

where some of the ends of the legs had warped over time where they went into the joints, we used an angle grinder to remove rust and round them out.

After re-assembling the swing it looked 30 years newer and went together and came apart effortlessly.
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Dec 9, 2011. 12:57 AMorvildiaz says:
sir i m orvil diaz doing mechanical engg final sem!!1 we r doing des project of urs for our final semester...sirr we plzz u to gve us some more knoledge abt des...sir cn we meet on fb??
Oct 4, 2011. 5:44 AMAzizas Place, Cambodia says:
Morning, Cleveland.

Success with my swingset - pumping water at 3 liters a minute - videos here...

http://www.instructables.com/id/A-Garden-Swing-Powered-Water-Pump/

And here's another swingset being used to pump water, this time in Africa...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oictq_v_kN4&feature=related

How's yours coming along?
Sep 7, 2011. 12:33 AMAzizas Place, Cambodia says:
We're planning on using a similar set-up and this is pretty much where we're headed with the Math for this...

In step 10, you mention the length of the chains affecting the speed of the drive shaft turning...
The length of a pendulum directly affects the time taken for that pendulum to complete one "swing cycle" or "period"... the longer the pendulum the longer the time taken to complete one period.
There's a mathematical formula to calculate this period - it's

T=2π√L/g

where:
T =
period
π = 3.142 (Pi)
L = the length of the pendulum
g = 9.81  (gravitational acceleration)


there's a website with an automatic calculator here http://easycalculation.com/physics/classical-physics/simple-pendulum.php

A 2 meter long pendulum takes 2.84 seconds to complete 1 period, which gives 21.1 periods per minute.

Based on a swing arc of 90 degrees, work out the amount of travel made by a point on the circumference of the pivot gear, "x"....  x = (πd)/4   where d=diameter of the gear.
Work out the circumference of the smaller gear, "y".... y = πd
Divide x by y to get the amount of revolutions made by the smaller gear for 1 pendulum swing, and then multiply that by the periods per minute to get the rpm figure for swinging at a 90 degree arc.

For us, using the rim of a bike wheel at the pivot to drive a toothed or V belt which in turn drives a BMX freewheel, and using a 1.5 meter pendulum, the Math gives us an rpm of around 90 at the freewheel, which is perfect for our purposes.

Variables:
Length of pendulum
Diameter of pivot gear
Diameter of smaller gear
Swing arc degrees

We've set ourselves a deadline of 2 weeks from today to get this up and running and will post details of results when we have them.
Sep 5, 2011. 10:02 PMAzizas Place, Cambodia says:
I like this.

In looking for a motive power source for our project, we came up with and discussed this idea. We've done enough of the Math to know that it's viable for us.
We don't have the access to the type of parts and engineering that you have, though, and will be making this from readily available components - mainly bicycle parts.
A 27" bike wheel at the pivot driving a BMX style freewheel would give around 2 rotations of the freewheel for one pendulum swing - flywheel regulated to try to avoid too much variation in output - that's what we're aiming for.
Nice to see that the idea can work.

A thought, if I may... as an offshoot of this, if you ditched the electrical generation side, you could power most anything requiring a low rpm rotational movement if you add weight to the swing seat to up the torque generated.
Also, solid bars instead of chains would be a definite efficiency improvement.

You have a good, solid project here - all the best of luck with it!

Aziza's Place, Cambodia
http://www.instructables.com/id/Coil-Pump-V20-testing-rig/
Jul 11, 2010. 10:05 AMDr Qui says:
Nice project you are really thinking outside the box. Have you tried a fixed bar instead of the chain, that would allow you to put maximum torque to the thrust bearings and would allow you to drop the seat height back down to give a longer swing stroke. If you check out the mythbusters video of is it possible to 360 on a swing they point out that the you can only 360 on a fixed bar. seems you loose a percentage of your possible thrust on every link in your chain. with a fixed bar you get 100% Adding a massive flywheel something like a car wheel with the tire filled with concrete, would be slow to get going but would store a mass of energy to keep the generator going a a decent speed on your back swing. fixed arms combined with a flywheel would be my 2 cent worth. Fantastic post. Andy.
Jun 10, 2011. 6:35 AMscraptopower says:
Brilliant! Energy from humans. When do you think it will become self aware ?
Jun 10, 2011. 3:46 AMrt3tech says:
Brilliant! I've often thought of an electricity generating treadmill for pets. So they could earn their keep while I'm at work. 10 minutes of treading drops out a morsel or two of food. :D
Jun 9, 2011. 7:10 PMSlicerr2 says:
hey you could scrounge the one one way clutch from old bikes
May 17, 2011. 11:54 PMjmasinter says:
dude hook it up to a flashing light display and bring it to the burn!
Feb 28, 2011. 4:47 PMgrt57 says:
Too Darn Cool! Leave it to you California Swingers... LOL
Dec 31, 2010. 8:27 PMDr. Pepper says:
brilliant!
Nov 20, 2010. 3:03 PMbryandhispup says:
what about using solid swing attachments for half the length of the swing arm... this would allow some free movement at the bottom, but also give a longer connection point to make sure you are turning the drive shaft a considerable amount. I think it would also help out in the torque dept, and allow for a larger gear on the drive shaft.
Jul 20, 2010. 9:50 PMPale_Flyer says:
if you can get to twelve volts, you could get an alternator, and a surge protector... and charge a laptop, or what ever you want to..... at the voltage you are trying to use now, you could only do things like hand held gaming devices, cell phones, e-readers... portable stuff....... thats my two cents!
Jun 11, 2010. 6:11 AMkatekatekate says:
I think it would be great if the swing could power a regular emergency generator or battery cells that could be used for any number of purposes.
Jan 20, 2010. 4:27 PMam23006 says:
hi i was thinking about making this for a physics project comming up and i was just wondering around what the cost to make this was?
Jan 25, 2010. 5:55 AMkumarakhilesh says:
pz give detale knowlge in this project.
&this step.................
Nov 24, 2009. 10:03 PMBaytonian says:
Just thinking...

You could make a linear generator and use the substantial speed and arc of the swinger to really generate some juice. Plus the higher you swing the more juice you will get.  There are several ways I can imagine how to accomplish this feat while allowing the swinger to swing naturally.  I'll let you work on how that may be accomplished but, it is very doable. 

You would need to deal with the polarity reversals in such a setup but you could also handle that several ways with your obvious ingenuity and electro mechanical skills.

Great, and creative Instructable.  Thanks for sharing it with us all.
May 26, 2009. 8:57 AMjeff-o says:
I wonder if a flywheel on the generator shaft would boost its power output? At the very least, it would even things out a bit.
May 28, 2009. 1:57 AMGrey_Wolfe says:
It would likely even out the power spikes a bit, but not particularly necessary unless the circuit can't handle them. Sadly, it would not increase output.
Sep 23, 2009. 3:21 PMjatrophacostarica says:
Unless you get one of them fancy perpetual generation flywheels... is there more/less loss of power from the circuitry vs. the friction of the flywheel's added mass? ie: does the circuit blow off spikes as heat? if so, it might be more efficient w/ the flywheel, and thus increase net output.
Jun 3, 2009. 5:21 PMrobertmw says:
I have a different approach possibly for the power generation. You could use induction. If instead of having the swing force move a flywheel or such, have a decently large magnet, and have it swing by a wire. if you put it through a rectifier, you can be generating power in both directions of the swing, and there would be WAY fewer moving parts to get your clothes sucked off by! I believe an earlier magazine issue had a project to power your tv remote by using a tube with copper wire wrapped around it with a magnet in it, you shake the remote for a few seconds and you have power. Same idea, just on a bigger scale.
Jul 26, 2009. 8:35 AMTommyhzy says:
And if they're wearing a watch while swinging... or a cell phon or anything like that... It's gone (: (Unless you have some really weak magnets that won't be able to reach between the swinger and the set)
Aug 8, 2009. 3:14 PMrobertmw says:
Umm, im talking about magnets. Not an EMP burst....... I'd keep your Hard drive away maybe...
Aug 8, 2009. 5:20 PMTommyhzy says:
And credit cards. I rethought your idea and realized I interpreted it differently... It's all about wording! Keep any data things (USB, Hard Drive, Floppy Disks (If that applies), Credit cards, Library cards, Any cards (Not playing cards unless they are microchip-equipped or something)), and yea that's about it. Watches and cell phones are fine.
Aug 9, 2009. 10:38 AMrobertmw says:
Ok. I don't think you have a very good grasp on just how strong a magnetic field would have to be to wipe credit cards, hard drives, anything at all from an apreciable distance. You probaby have a better chance of having that happen by using a blender. Look. I'm an engineering student, I've taken E&M. There's no worries about something like that happening with what I'm proposing.
Aug 9, 2009. 11:14 AMTommyhzy says:
Alright, you're right, I was wrong. (: Now we're both happy?
Jun 19, 2009. 9:06 PMlaminae says:
I'd power a fan! I live in HOT!!! Florida, and would rarely swing out there in that heat!
Jul 20, 2009. 10:38 AMRedgerr says:
lol ya, swing to power a fan to cool you from swinging :p
Jul 20, 2009. 11:21 AMlaminae says:
I don't know where you live, but here in NW Florida, it's HOT, and swingin' don't give off much of a breeze!
Jul 20, 2009. 10:40 AMRedgerr says:
interesting idea to say the least, grats on making it work =]
Jun 22, 2009. 7:50 PMEv says:
Bike technology is cheap, well understood and adaptable. A rear hub has the one way drive and can be adjusted for the number or size of swingers. There are tons of parts in yard sales, shops, community organizations.
Jun 9, 2009. 9:25 AMbigmike55 says:
Have'nt read all the comments but I always thought of using one of those exercise bicycles for the same purpose. A contraption such as this, would be smaller and would be possible to use indoors and outdoors as well. This swing idea is fantastic but for some who cannot afford the outdoor space, there should be an indoor alternative. I think I better get cracking on this one.
Jun 6, 2009. 2:17 PMWCallister says:
I didn't read all of the posts, so maybe someone has already made this suggestion. I am assuming that you have come up with a way to waterproof it? As, it would be somewhat ineffective as an outdoor swingset. With that in mind, why not a "security" light of some sort, to illuminate the play area. Perhaps this would draw too much power. I don't know. I am still trying to wrap my noggin around all the differences and interaction of watt, kilowatts, amps, volts, etc.
May 28, 2009. 5:00 PMmaestro8 says:
There exists a mechanism to translate a back-and-forth motion such as a swing into a constant force. It lives in many top-loading washing machines with agitators. You might try using a washing machine transmission between the drive shaft and the generator to double the efficiency of the swing. Dunno if it would work, but you might give it a try!
Jun 3, 2009. 5:16 PMrobertmw says:
yes, it is actually a very simple mechanism. But i think that by having it be a one way clutch it works out more advantagiously, in this set up you can stop swinging and it will just freewheel to a stop. If there is a constant linkage, as soon as you jump off, the chain would just get wrapped up by the momentum from the charger/transfer mechanisms.
Jun 3, 2009. 8:47 PMrobertmw says:
sorry, I didn't realize it until i hit post, but the one way clutch would still work correctly and there wouldn't be the "winding up" problem that i described above.
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