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After seeing this bike on a bicycle design blog I was inspired to build my own. It was made by someone named John Hobson. The concept is the same, but mine is fairly different.

Also I had some left over epoxy and fiberglass from a kayak I built and was just itching to find a project I could use it on (or maybe I was just itchy from all the fiberglass). Anyway, since I wasn't thrilled with my current bike that was a cheapo 15 year old big box store bike, I thought it would be great to replace the old frame with a wood composite frame and have something unique.

The part of the design I liked was that the top and bottom parts of the frame are like leaf springs separated by the seat tube. I thought that having a suspension system integrated into the frame was a really cool idea. Ideally vibrations and bumps would be absorbed into the frame and returned back to the wheels, without making the frame too bouncy. The frame I built consists of plywood, fiberglass, epoxy, and even paper, so there is no welding required.

Before I get started here's some bike terminology I had to learn:
Head Tube - short tube for the handle bars, and front fork assembly.
Top Tube - horizontal section that connects the seat tube to the head tube.
Down Tube - diagonal section that connect the head tube to the bottom bracket.
Bottom Bracket - This is where the pedals and crank attach.
Seat Tube - longer tube that the seat post slides into.
Chain Stays - Two sections that connect the bottom bracket to the rear wheel.
Seat Stays - Two sections that lead from the seat to the rear wheel.
Dropouts - brackets to connect the rear wheel.

Caution: Riding a bike is dangerous, riding a home built bike is even more so. If you decide to build a bike, take it slow, wear a helmet and other protective equipment, reinspect your work, and be prepared for it to break at any moment.

Step 1: Get the Materials

I looked at the 1/8 inch plywood at Lowes and Home Depot, but I wasn't very happy with the quality. I then went to a local woodworking store and found some good looking 1/8" baltic birch plywood in 5'x5' sheets that had a nice light color. It was about $20 per sheet so if it turns into a disaster I wont be too upset. I also bought a pack of birch veneer to wrap around the seat and head tube.

I bought a bottom bracket, bottom bracket shell, and crank from Amazon for about $50. The rest of the parts I plan to take from a junk bike I had lying around.

The fiberglass, epoxy, and spar varnish were left over from a kayak build. I bought these online from a boat building supplier. It is 6 oz glass cloth and the epoxy is clear, non-blushing that takes about 24 hours or more to fully cure.

Tools needed: Saw, sandpaper, rasp, a couple of pliers, drill, power sander, power jig saw, some solid wire, natural fiber rope or twine, a vise, and several disposable brushes, cups, and latex gloves. When needed be sure to wear eye protection and a mask to keep gunk out of your lungs. I also had to buy some specialty bike tools, a chain tool and crank arm remover.

For removing parts off the old bike I used a hack saw, locking pliers, bench grinder, and a Dremel.

Step 2: Cut Some Plywood

For cutting I used a coping saw, although other saws would work. Just be careful not to tear up the wood too much, especially when cutting across the grain.

In order to get an even bend, the pieces should roughly have an even width. The rear wheel section has a fork with two 1 1/2" wide sections that are 3 3/4" apart. The rear forks are 13" long, and they narrow to 3" apart where they join together. It thens tapers down to a single 3" strip. The total length is 43" The dimension don't have to be perfect since I will shape the frame once it is all glued together.

I only cut 4 pieces to start with. Two of them are a 1/2" longer to account for the extra length needed when bending. Small holes are drilled into the ends of the boards so they can be wired together. The two outer boards have the holes an 1/8" further from the edge so they can line up with the inner holes, and still come together at the end.

Wire up the boards and see how the ends look. For wire I used 18 gauge solid copper wire. At this point I had to cut a little bit off the ends of the outer boards to make sure they came together like I wanted. A temporary seat tube is made out of a piece of PVC with fabric taped to the ends to prevent it from slipping off the plywood. The fabric adds some friction to keep the tube in place, although it still slips off more often than I'd like.

Several times I held up the frame to my old $99 cheapo bike to see if the dimensions looked right. Once the frame is the right size, I cut the glass fabric to the shape of the boards.

Step 3: Initial Glue Up

I chose to layer fiberglass between each piece of plywood mainly because I have a bunch of it. Hopefully this will add durability but I don't know if doing this will make the frame stiffer or more flexible. If I were to do this again I would skip the extra fiberglass and just add a few more layers of wood to increase the visual impact of a wood bike.

Be sure you know how to use the epoxy before you start and always wear gloves. The four boards are first painted with epoxy on one side then the glass is wetted out onto two of the boards. They are then sandwiched together and the ends are loosely wired together.

It takes a couple tries to get it bent into shape and wired together, but once I got the temporary seat tube in place with the plywood bent around it, I could tighten up the wires. I tried to make a herring bone pattern where the plywood is wired together, but I was only moderately successful. I used some homemade clamps to keep the boards tight together. After it cured I removed the wires and sanded it out.

Step 4: Laminate, Laminate, Laminate

This is quite a long process. I chose to do one layer at a time, and I'm getting 2 layers done per week. The steps are. Draw and cut out 2 boards. Cut the fiberglass to match the boards. Clamp the boards on dry to make sure they are the right size. Prepare the epoxy and paint it on one side of the frame and on one side of the new boards. Wet out the fiberglass onto the new boards. Clamp it all together and let it cure for 24+ hours. After it's hard (the epoxy should not dent from pushing your fingernail into it) cut off the excess fiberglass, sand out any bumps, and do it again.

Out of the 5'x5' sheet I squeezed out 14 pieces. Thus I have seven layers each for the top tube and the down tube sections. I discovered (a bit too late) that if I make the boards a little too long, I can cut off the excess while it's dry clamped to the frame. On this frame, I placed four layers on top and one layer of plywood on the inside of the frame to cover up the wire holes, and hide any scuffing caused the clamping and reclamping.

Because of the bending, the rear chain stays and seat stays have a tendency to move closer together. To stop this I had to add a scrap piece of plywood between the stays to maintain the distance. Once all the layers were added and cured I cut out the scrap plywood. To protect the wood I added a final layer of fiberglass on the top and bottom of the frame.

Step 5: Make Tubes

The seat tube and head tube are made out of fiberglass, brown packing paper, and birch veneer all wrapped around a pipe used for a mandrel. For the seat tube I used part of an old shower curtain rod with the decorative plastic removed. It just happened to be the same diameter of my seat post. For the head tube I used 1 in. pvc pipe that had an outside diameter of 1.3 in.

I planned to attach a front derailleur to the seat tube so I had to pay attention to both the inner and outer diameter of the tube. The seat post was 1 in. in diameter and the derailleur needs a 31.8 mm (1 1/4 in.) seat tube so I had to make the tube 1/4 in. thick (1/8 in. on each side). I also integrated the old bike's seat post clamp into the tube so I wouldn't have to figure out how to put it on later.

There are some helpful websites for amateur rocketry that provide instructions on how to make fiberglass tubes, but my experience was difficult. It took 3 tries to make the seat tube. The first attempt made a tube with an internal layer of paper that was way too loose. The 2nd attempt was a very tight tube of fiber glass and paper, but it wouldn't slide off the pipe. Finally I made a tube of only fiberglass and with effort was able to pull the pipe out. The head tube is much smaller and slide off the pipe fairly easily.

Here's the steps I finally used:
1. Sand the pipe so it's smooth
2. Lubricate the outside of the pipe, with grease or wax, but leave the ends
clean so the wax paper can be taped on.
3. Wrap the pipe with wax paper, and tape the ends so it stays in place.
4. wrap the tube two times with fiberglass and epoxy. Using latex gloves I was
able to wrap the epoxy soaked fiberglass flat onto the pipe so that there no
bubbles or gaps. Don't make it too tight though or it will never slide off.
5. Let the the tube cure, but not completely.
6. Remove the pipe: Remove the tape then break the pipe free by locking the fiberglassed section into a vise and twist the pipe with pliers. Work the pipe out by pulling and twisting with the pliers on one end and push the pipe with a stick or smaller pipe on the other end. Take care to cause as little damage as possible but there will be some.
7. Remove the wax paper, and slide the fiberglass tube back on the pipe. Sand it and coat with more epoxy and wrap with several layers of paper to add some thickness and add some epoxy as you go. The paper doesn't need to be soaked with epoxy.
8. Let it cure. I used some cord to keep the paper tightly wrapped while it cured.
9. Sand the pipe again, and measure the circumference, to get an idea of how much veneer is needed. Cut the veneer so it overlaps the pipe by about a 1/4 - 1/2 of an inch and sand the inside edge of the veneer to a sharp blade (the outside edge gets sanded after the epoxy cures). The blade edge will go down first then the opposite edge will lap over it.
10. Add another layer of fiberglass and epoxy followed by the veneer layer. The veneer bends easier once it's been wetted out with epoxy.
11. Let cure. This time I used wire ties to the keep the veneer wrapped around the
tube.
12. Sand the veneer to get rid of the over lapped edge, and to remove any marks or indentations caused by the wire ties.
13. Finally apply the last layer of fiberglass.
14. Let cure
15. Sand it smooth.

The Head tube ended up being 1/8 inch thick with an inner diameter of 1 5/16 in. and outer diameter of 1 9/16 in.

I originally tried to use a 28.6 mm front deraileur, but it wouldn't fit, so I added another layer of fiberglass at the bottom of the seat tube and used a 31.8 mm derailleur. The seat tube finally had an inner diameter of 1 1/16 in. and an outer diameter of 1 5/16 in.

Step 6: Dropouts

For shaping the frame I began at the back and worked my way to the front. I plan to attach the dropouts by gluing them into slots using thickened epoxy. If it doesn't hold I may have to revert to bolts instead.

To create the slots, I dug a channel into the back the same size as the dropouts. I first cut out the area using a Dremel rotary tool, then moved on to using a hand drill and wood bit and moved it up and down the channel to route out the wood. I designed it so that the dropouts have to be rotated into the slot, opposite the direction the frame pushes on the wheel.

I chose the go ahead and glue in the dropouts before shaping the stays. To thicken the epoxy I combined sawdust with wheat flour I got out of the kitchen. With a little experimenting I was able to come close to the color of the wood. Before gluing in the dropouts I made sure they were clean and grinded in some pits with a Dremel so the epoxy can get a good grip on the metal.

A string taped down the middle of the bike helped me make sure each side was even. Then I used a handheld jigsaw to cutout off the edges along the seat and chain stays and used a flexible wire as a straight edge to help pencil in where the cuts should be.

Step 7: Bottom Bracket and Seat Tube

The bottom bracket section needs to be shaped such that the frame has clearance between the rear tire and the sprockets on the pedal crank. To do this hold the bottom bracket with the crank loosely installed to the frame and measure where the cuts should go. Make a small cut to the frame then measure again. After doing this several times it should fit. Then cut the other side so it is symmetrical. The down tube ended up being 1 7/8 in wide.

To determine where the bottom bracket and seat tube should go I held the bike up to my old bike to get an idea. I drilled a hole for the seat tube using a 1 1/4in hole saw. Once the seat tube hole is made, the edges can be cut off leaving 3/4 - 1 in. of the frame on either side of the seat tube. Then taper the top tube section down to 2 in wide.

Once the seat tube is glued in place I glued the bottom bracket shell on the opposite side the down tube. I went ahead and wrapped some extra birch veneer around the bottom bracket but it wasn't really necessary.

Since the bottom bracket is basically hanging from the bottom of the frame, it needs a lot of reinforcement to keep it on. In my first attempt I tried to fasten it with a paper and fiberglass composite, but it didn't look that great. Also I neglected to reinforce the connection between the seat tube and the bottom of the frame. It cracked on a test ride, and gave me a really wobbly crank.

In the next attempt I used strips of fiberglass cloth wrapped from the seat tube over the frame to the bottom bracket and back, and then I wrapped the whole area with many lashings of a natural fiber rope I had in the shed. Everything was wetted with epoxy before applying. I used wire ties to add some compression to the joints, but in retrospect I probably should have used some plastic or electrical tape to get rid of the lines left by the wire ties.

It might be possible to place the bottom bracket on top of the down tube, but you would lose ground clearance, and you may need to use a more sophisticated bending technique than that of a stick and some wire.

Step 8: Head Tube

The hard part about attaching the head tube is getting it in the right position. I used my old bike as a template to get the forward/backward angle right, then I was able to use my hole saw and drill it out. When checking to see if the hole is lined up right, I found it helpful to insert the PVC pipe into the head tube and see if it looks true.

Unfortunately the left/right angle wasn't right, so I had to do some sanding and used a couple nails to temporaryily hold the head tube in the right spot while the epoxy cured. Once it cured I could remove the nails and add more flour and sawdust thickened epoxy around the tube.

Step 9: Cable Stops and Head Tube Cups

Now that the headset, seat tube, and rear dropouts were in place I could spend some time finalizing the frame shape and sand everything smooth. It should now look like a bicycle frame.

I created the cable stops out of left over pieces of the frame. I cut a rectangular piece and drilled a hole halfway thru about the size of the cable shielding, then a small hole all the way thru for the actual cable. Carefully I sawed a slot to the hole for adding and removing the cable, and rounded off the corners.

I pressed the headset cups from the junk bike into place by hand. After a little sanding they fit inside of the head tube snugly. To make the old parts look better I taped off parts of the bike and spray painted silver on the headset cups, seat post clamp, and rear dropouts.

Step 10: Finish and Assemble

Once everything was glued up and looking good, it was time for the varnish. I used some spar varnish and gave the bike 3 coats.

Assemble the bike. I ended up putting the rear brake below the frame because I didn't want any cables running along the top of the bike. It's far from ideal though. If I can get my hands on a free or almost free rear disc brake set, I'll install it, but for now this will do. For the front derailleur I drilled a small hole behind the bottom bracket to run the cable thru. It attaches to the bottom pull derailleur.

That's it. It's actually a lot stiffer than I anticipated, but it's a good ride. I don't ride a whole lot, but it will work for what I do, either riding thru the desert or on the canals or down to the local bar (and walk it back of course). I'm pretty gentle with it, but I've gone up and down curbs slowly. When you build your own bike be prepared for it to break at any moment until it's been thoroughly tested and visually inspect it from time to time. I've only taken it out a couple times and I'll get more aggressive on it in time. I'll update this instructable if anything breaks. I got a couple looks from people who notice bikes, but a majority of people it seems see it as just another bike on the road.

There are a couple fills in the bike where I had to add thickened epoxy, but it's not too noticeable. You can probably spot them in some of the photos. The frame by itself weighs about 6.8 pounds and all together it is 32 lbs. Anyway, I wish you the best of luck if you decide to build something like this!

Update: I broke the seat tube just above the frame when I went to a shorter seat post. It didn't go far enough into the seat tube, so it was weaker. I redid the top of the seat tube so it is stronger now and use a longer seat post. Also the bottom bracket shell broke free and started sliding left and right. I was able to reset it with gorilla glue and it seems fine now. Finally I replaced the rear side pull brake with a center pull calliper brake. The side pull was uncomfortably close to the crank arms.
Hi, nice work with your bike. I am halfway with making a similar bike and I will post and instructable as soon as im done. This will be my second wood bike the first one is like a junk yard recumberant. See the foto below. I really like your bike and admire the workmanship. I will add a bit more steel to my bike coz I like the industrial look and I am a metal worker at heart. I used a jig for the laminating and both halves come out of the clamps tonight.<br><br>Does it still go?
Cool man, I can't wait to see your instructable. Your recumbent looks great. Yep it still works but I broke off the seat clamp when I used a seat post that was too short. That's a place where steal would work better. Good luck with your build!
https://www.instructables.com/id/Wood-Bike-2/
The loops make the whole bike strong and selective use of metalwork keeps the slender look. The bike design you mentioned is spoiled by the box for the seatpost.<br><br>Have you seen the Pashley Tuberider? It is a great looker. I fitted mine out with a motor system driving the chainwheel. Pashleys all have hub brakes, so motorising them is a challenge. Photos as www.mr-motorvator.co.uk
Excellent build and very helpful instructable ! A few suggestions and thoughts . A simple jig to clamp the wood to will make this project much easier . You really don't need the fiberglass between the layers of plywood .&quot; it'll be lighter and it's plenty strong without the glass &quot; An outside rated wood glue would be plenty strong , then coat the outside with epoxy and glass &quot; it'll be a lighter bike &quot;. Leave the seat tube on the bottom bracket , run the tube through the holes in your wood frame epoxy it in then leaving a short section at the top and bottom cut out the center section and connect those pieces by wrapping with several layers of veneer . Or just cover it with veneer . I would take the donor headset and just cover it with veneer after installing it . If you wanted you could take 1/4&quot; strips of wood with the grain running the length of the bike instead of the plywood and it would be far stronger . Hickory , ash , sitka spruce and white oak would work great . Mix in other woods for cool patterns and colors . Once again great job , now I'm going go build my own thanks to you . Do a search for wood bikes on Flickr there are some cool ones out there .
Thanks, those are some good ideas. If you make your bike, you should make an instructable or post it online somewhere.
great i'ble! I really want to make my own now!<br>from a stress stand point would it be better to have the pedals mounted inside the frame rather than outside? that way the force you put onto the pedals (downward) would be pushing against the frame rather than pulling. <br>I also have built ply and epoxy boats taking the construction to bikes makes sense.<br>If you used west system epoxy let http://www.epoxyworks.com/ know and they could make an article out of it, in fact they have an article about epoxy and wood bikes in it this issue.
Thanks! You're right, I'm not crazy about hanging the crank below the frame, but I thought putting it inside would make it too high. This design could probably be reworked for a better or cleaner looking crank mount either inside or laminated into the frame itself.
This is awesome! 5* and my vote!<br><br>Is this springy to ride ?
Thanks. No, it's not very springy, but I'm kinda a light weight. It might be a different story though for a big dude.
I'm not a bike builder, so may be talking out my butt here, but from a structural point of view, you have assembled a very rigid frame, and it wouldn't have much spring to it. <br><br>How would it work if the seat tube passed through a sleeve set into the top tube/seat stay arc, rigidly attached only at the bottom bracket?<br><br>Dave
That sounds pretty cool. It would really act like a spring then. Someday I'd like to make a bouncy bike and really exaggerate the vertical spring. This bike is a little more practical.
<p>Great work!</p>
Thanks!
<p>as a wood purist, I think I 'wood' have steered well clear of using any fiberglass. As well, I noted that you were using materials of varying strengths that is a practice rarely recommended for longevity. Wood with two part laminating glue and thinner veneer (should you try this again) will give you amazing visuals and a longer lasting end product. I'm only saying this from a static materials strengths professional. I do tend to over engineer my designs. I'm impressed with your product! I think the concept is inspired! I'd have you on my ideas team any day!</p>
Thanks! There's another instructable that did something similar to what you are describing. https://www.instructables.com/id/Wood-Bike-2/ <br>
<p>amazing yes</p>
I'm a bit confused about the frame. I see you've listed the materials that its made of, but i'm still not sure what the frame is... So the plywood is just a veneer, or outer layer? And structurally its mostly fiberglass? Has there been any stress tests done on the frame?
The frame is 7 layers of 1/8&quot; plywood with fiberglass sandwiched between each layer. I have no idea what loads it can support. Ride at your own risk.
I think you did a wonderful job on a first prototype. And just think you have inspired allot of people to do the same. that is what life is all about my friend. <br> <br> Thnxx for sharing.
Thanks!
I have one question. How light is the bike? I'd think it'd be lighter then your average frame.
The frame by itself weighs about 6.8 pounds and all together it is 32 lbs.
say, could you make the Bottom Bracket and Seat Tube in one piece. <br> <br>That is the seat tube is welded to the bottom bracket - to make a &quot;T&quot;. <br> <br>you then have 2 holes in the bike frame for the seat tube to go through (from the bottom to the top) yeah? <br> <br>the seat tube and bottom bracket are metal and covered in the veneer once inserted into the bike frame. <br> <br>it would give the bottom bracket strength and you wouldn't have to have the stuff around it to hold it in place.
Good idea. HanzieO did something similar to what you described on his version. <a href="https://www.instructables.com/id/Wood-Bike-2/" rel="nofollow">https://www.instructables.com/id/Wood-Bike-2/</a>
Nice design. A few improvements could produce a bike that will last a lifetime. Hardly any rust either! Great lines on your bike.
Thanks!
That is a beautiful object. The fact that it's a functioning bicycle as well makes it even more astounding. Well done, sir! <br> <br>I see that you posted this a couple of years ago. Have you made another since then? I'd love to see an update.
Thank you. I would like to build a beach cruiser version, but haven't gotten around to it yet. One of these days.
Awesome build man, great details, well placed photos and not perfect. So many people put up perfectly executed ibles that you know it was really thier 2nd or 3rd attempt. I personally don't mind the twine BB, whatever works, only time will tell if it holds up and since it's wood, just rebuild it stronger. I'm also impressed with the weight, I just built a cargo hauler based on a steel big store box bike that came out to 12 lbs! Do not put wood forks on if you like your front teeth!
... another project inspiring people to make a bike that can get them hurt or killed if they use it. Nifty idea, but, even professionally made bikes fail and with luck people should not get hurt just to have some novelty item.<br><br>If it were the other way around, if for some odd reason bikes were made out of plywood and someone suggested a STRONGER, BETTER frame from metal tubing I would applaud but this kind of suggestion that puts people at risk is very irresponsible. I propose some industry standards and laws that hold bicycle frames to standards for durability a bit like car crash tests and road-worthy regulations.<br><br>You only have one body and one life kids, please think before endangering it.
You have got to be kidding me... This is a great project, I'm sorry you don't see the value of it.
Bicycles can cause you to get hurt or killed. Even professionally made bikes fail. I propose we outlaw all bicycles. Then no one will ever be injured or die. <br> <br>But seriously, I'd trust a plywood frame made to my own high standards to a cheap metal frame made by the lowest bidder.
I propose we require any bicycle ridden on the road to be tested for road-worthiness. If you want to ride your one-off homemade bike which is supposedly, and I mean supposedly because if you don't test your claim you are just making up nonsense, made to relevant higher standards, then by all means ride it only on your own private property so in the event of failure you are not risking others in public.<br><br>The same applies for bicycle helmets, if you want to make one out of string and glue I would say it is a bad idea no matter how great you think it is, that testing to ensure it is safe is important, that no suggestion to make one should occur without the testing being stressed as the most important thing.<br><br>Realize the difference, that what you do in private to risk your own health and well-being is different than trying to encourage someone else to do it.
Did you even READ this article before you started farting on it? Did you read his advice on construction technique? Did you even realize that the method this bike is made with is almost identical to the modern method used in the construction of wooden re-curve bows (archery) which by the way FAR out perform (both in accuracy and durability) metal versions of the same design ? <br><br>I realize that an amateur wood worker would probably botch the job resulting in an unsafe and unreliable product... Having said that allow me to also mention that MOST amateur wood workers would realize that a project of this magnitude would be beyond their ability. But even if they DO attempt it and FAIL as haniously as you seem to think they will, they will have only hurt themselves. <br><br>You also overlook one very crucial detail. Failure is the only true road to success. The Wright brothers made over 20 designs before they made one that flew. NASA blew up countless rockets before landing a man on the moon. The Tacoma Narrows Bridge collapse has taught a whole new generation of engineers how NOT to build a bridge. Failure is life's greatest teacher. Do people get hurt in the process,? Hopefully not. But yes sometimes they do. In the end they KNEW it was a risk. But it was a risk THEY CHOSE to take. <br><br>As far as road worthiness... If this was motorcycle or a car or some other vehicle that achieved terminal velocities I would be more inclined to agree with you. But as some one who has crashed literally thousand of times on bicycles (usually doing something that my mother would rather not know about) I don't. I have had many of your beloved steel and chrome alloy frames snap under me. and guess what... I survived. And with all my limbs still attached, too.
Bike helmets = false sense of security= unrealized risk taking. Check out the research- helmets don't actually prevent the most devastating aspect of head injury. More to the point- where will the Nanny State end? Probably in &quot;1984&quot;. <br><br>&quot;Life is a terminal, sexually transmitted condition and no one gets out alive!&quot; And sadly- so few actually Live!
I meet your proposal of road worthiness testing and raise you a walking requirement that enforces sturdy shoes knee-pads and helmet. Oh and a mouth guard. Seat belts for recliner chairs and thick gloves for handling hot coffee.<br> And for the sake of being nice I'll encourage courage and applaud the sharing of knowledge and the attempt at sharing wisdom. <br>Oh and helmets for bicycles would have gotten a kid pounded by all the other kids back when I was a young little monster with my extra set of forks pounded on and half the bolts cross threaded while using a four foot board across a stack of tires for a ramp. We used to throw bikes together from piles of trashed bikes and play chicken till someone ended up with a broken collar bone and went home to momma then did it again the next day. And the next and the next. I remember two kids dying while growing up. one was a hemophiliac that got talked into jumping off a bridge thirty feet into shallow water, bled to death internally. And the other tried to imitate a circus stunt and ended up accidentally hanging himself. ages 15 and 12. were both avoidable? perhaps, but I do believe they were a bit inevitable too. Fate will decide and Darwin will point and say &quot;I told you so&quot; So live life and enjoy it till it ends because you never know when it will.
Dang dad, you're just preachin' all over the place. One of the beautiful things about living in America is that we get to make decisions for ourselves on many levels. @shoehornteeth can make them for himself, you can make them for yourself and I can make them for myself. It's quite a wonderful concept; one, considering your need to determine our IQ and decide what we should do or not, you might not actually know about. I don't know about @shoehornteeth, but the last time I checked, you were not my father. Even though your assessment determined I was not all that smart, I know you are not my father because my father doesn't feel the need to constantly tell people how they should behave or what they should think. FYI ... my IQ is 144.
That sure was a convoluted reply. I reread it twice, and I still can't tell if you're agreeing with me. Just to clarify, I was being sarcastic when I said bicycles should be outlawed. My opinion is that detailed descriptions/instructions on how this wooden bicycle was built are appropriate for this website.
Oh, sorry about that.&nbsp; No, I agree with you.&nbsp; It's bugs me when someone feels they must preach here because preaching to you or me or anyone has nothing to do with, for this instructable, building a bike.&nbsp; @ac-dc can raise kids, within the law, however they want and choose never to go around a lumber.&nbsp; I knew your comment was sarcastic.&nbsp; :)<br> <br> I like to read the comments or get ideas.&nbsp; I was an adult the last time I looked, so I get to make my decisions.&nbsp; I even get to eat my dessert first if I feel like.&nbsp; Therefore, as an adult, I don't want to weed through the comments of a self-appointed supervisor trying to make everyone do what they want, arg.&nbsp;<br> <br> I'm kind of embarrassed because now I think I have amassed more comments than @ac-dc.&nbsp; :/<br>
No one is encouraging you to make your own bike. In fact, you probably shouldn't trust yourself to make anything for yourself. Do you have the proper means to test that sandwich for pathogens? No? Don't eat it! If you get sick, you could cause others around you to get sick too. Better leave food prep for the professionals. <br>Realize the difference? If no one ever made things for themselves or tried different materials or different designs, no progress would ever be made. There is an inherent risk in every activity. No one is telling you to take this risk. And if my frame has a catastrophic failure, then I'm the only one who pays the price.
Great. Just what we need. MORE government regulation to stifle initiative/creativity.<br><br>News flash, people: LIFE is risky no matter what you do. You can choose to live it or to spend your time on this earth in complete misery worrying constantly about the countless ways you might get hurt.<br>
There's nothing wrong with creativity, when it results in an equal or safer product. Bicycles are also a means of transportation that can get people seriously hurt. Live a long and happy life by using common sense so you can achieve your lofty goals of creativity.<br><br>Life IS NOT very risky if you use common sense. No worrying required. If. You. Use. Common. Sense. Do you notice a trend here?
I am afraid that common sense is no longer common, it is, in fact, a rarity.
I think the government banned it several years ago--along with any experimentation or creativity deemed 'unsafe.' :-D<br>
I believe you are correct. Makes it ever so much easier for them to get re-elected.
Sense is not common. However, accepting anothers opinion about what is safe or secure or correct is quite common. I work with deadly bodily fluids everyday without injury- it is not safe for the untrained and inexperienced but I am at minimal risk because I follow simple, but obscure principals which are not known to the general public. I am safe in these situations but you would be in mortal danger. <br><br>I would rather take my chances on this bike than drive to work- statistically I would be safer on the bike. I'll bet you don't realize that driving is the highest risk activity you have ever engaged in. Statistically you don't have a chance behind the wheel- but you 'run' out to the store without a second thought.
[There's nothing wrong with creativity, when it results in an equal or safer product.]<br><br>There's nothing wrong with creativity, PERIOD. It's not my/your/our place to stifle another person's dreams in order that we feel safer. My life belongs to me. Your life belongs to you. The life of the guy who builds plywood bikes belongs to him/her. As long as we harm no one else, what each of us does with his/her life is NOBODY'S else's business.<br><br><br>[Bicycles are also a means of transportation that can get people seriously hurt.]<br><br><br>So what? What *I* do with MY body is no one's business but my own. Same goes for the riders/builders of wooden bikes.<br><br><br>[Live a long and happy life by using common sense so you can achieve your lofty goals of creativity.]<br><br>A life lived in constant fear of what-might-happen-if is no life at all.<br><br><br>[Life IS NOT very risky if you use common sense. No worrying required. If. You. Use. Common. Sense. Do you notice a trend here?]<br><br><br>Yes. I sense a disturbing need on the part of some to control others by telling them what to do. Trying to control another human being (who's obviously not our child) to suit our fancy is an assertion of ownership of/over another human being. I dunno about you, but I'm not into slavery.<br><br><br>
Gee thanks, dad.&nbsp; I'll be sure to <em>never</em> have any fun in my life as one of your charges.&nbsp; Inventors and artists + that outlook = boring world.&nbsp; I suppose we should really take everything made of wood and replace it with the sturdier, safer metal.&nbsp; Goodbye wooden roller coasters.<br>
Wooden roller coasters have to be tested for safety. Remember something, as smart as you think you are there is bound to be some kid out there that gets hurt senselessly.<br><br>To try to equate general inventions and artists? You really don't get it.

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