Build a Battery-Powered Amp for an old Carbon Mic

 by nomuse
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Step 1: Breadboarding

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The first problem to solve is that carbon-button microphones, like condenser mics, need an external source of power.  A battery and a resistor in series with the mic gets you a current loop (the resistor limits the current) and then you can pick off the audio at any two points with a voltage drop between them.  A single AA battery and a 1K resistor is enough to get a signal you can pick up with a mixer or an audio interface.

To get the rest of it, I bought up several fresh Jim-Packs of capacitors and resistors in useful-sounding values, opened up the National Semiconductor datasheet on the LM386, and started playing.  When I got in trouble (which was most of the time) back-posts in random audio forums gave me new ideas to try. One of these led me to a zobel filter, and  Wikipedia (of all things!) told me how to make a passive low-pass filter.

Okay, I still think you can do better with the same resources.  There are lots of good circuit diagrams floating about the net.  But here's my schematic anyhow (see below).





Quercus austrina says: Jun 25, 2010. 1:33 PM
JimPak??!!! Where did you get them? I haven't seen them for years since the local independent  Radio Shack went out of business.

Nice build. I especially like the way you adapted the drain cover and handle for use. The Sidetone control is a great function, something most people would not think of.

Qa
nomuse (author) in reply to Quercus austrinaJun 25, 2010. 6:30 PM
Heh. My local electronics store; Al Lasher's electronics. Seriously, though, especially with most franchise owners of Radio Shacks getting out of the components business, you are better just ordering from Digikey.
Quercus austrina in reply to nomuseJun 27, 2010. 7:53 AM
Ah, to have a local electronics store. (Sigh) Actually, the independent RS went out of business before the internet was around and mail order was a looonnnggg process.

Thanks for the info,
Qa
nomuse (author) in reply to Quercus austrinaJun 27, 2010. 11:00 AM
Don't get me started! When I was growing up, not only did Radio Shack have parts, but in our area was the giant surplus electronics warehouse, Mike Quinn's. http://www.imsai.net/history/quinn/quinn-1.htm I find the turn-around at Digikey is under a week, but it just isn't the same as actually sorting through the parts in those great dusty bins.
xxInSAniACxx says: Jun 25, 2010. 12:27 PM
HEY!!!!! I've been looking every where for instructions on how to build an AMP. does this only work with carbon, or with modern equipment too?
nomuse (author) in reply to xxInSAniACxxJun 25, 2010. 6:28 PM
Try the National Semiconductor datasheet -- http://www.national.com/mpf/LM/LM386.html#Documents It describes several basic amplifier circuits around the LM386 (which is available almost everywhere...it's been manufactured since 1986) Component values and everything. The big difference between a carbon mic and other mics is that the carbon mic puts out a LOT of signal. You can drive an earphone with it! For building an amp for one of the cheap electret condensers you see around these days you'd need to have a pre-amp, too. Here's a typical circuit using the oft-cursed LM741 Op-Amp: http://www.freeinfosociety.com/electronics/schemview.php?id=377 Really, though, I'd look for a kit, where someone else has already figured out the component values, bought the components for you, and did most of the soldering already (aka a printed circuit board).
randofo says: Jun 25, 2010. 11:50 AM
Very cool! I have a headset exactly like this that I have been too lazy to figure out how to wire up. This will be very helpful. I like your casing too. It has a very nice aesthetic.
nomuse (author) in reply to randofoJun 25, 2010. 12:25 PM
Thanks -- it was your circuit that got me started! ( http://www.instructables.com/id/Telephone-Handset-Microphone/step6/I-lied-about-the-circuitry/ )
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