what if a small fish just ate all the trap and easily gone out because of the hole.

i eat babies

no.

 not really, life is the suns gift of energy and it must be given from one life to another for the better to survive

Yes. I usually avoid the meat recipes and anything to do with hunting or fishing since I'm a veggie, but this looked intriguing from a simple mechanical point of view. Poor squished gastropod.

I have to be honest with you, being a vegetarian is entirely unhealthy. Almost every vegetarian I know is malnourished.

Yeah? Vegetarianinm suits some people more than others

But you have to consider that if people weren't meant to eat meat we wouldnt have canine teeth and incisors. only molars. Humans are meant to be omnivorous.

Fair comment , but as in evolution we move on from there. We evolved empathy for other living things, so the next step, at least as I hope, is that future generations loose the specialised hunting body parts for enhanced empathy and knowledge, and perhaps those who cannot live as vegetarians and vegans healthily adapting to it, if you see my point? And people living ignorantly and blindly eating the processed rubbish pouring from mcdonalds are just standing in the way of progress!

OR we eat fresh venison and cattle. Just because we eat meat doesn't mean we eat poorly.

yeah people back in the 50s that were country men were really strong and some could even take a 300 lb log and pick it up and carry it on their shoulder.

Oh don't get me wrong, empathy is necessary, but to an extent. As I said, we are made to hunt. Simply the way we were built and continue to be built proves that. We have proportionally enormous legs with massive muscles for running and hunting. The same goes for our arms. As for the future, there is more proof that hunting is becoming more prevalent. Humans are growing larger and having greater muscle mass to be able to take more stress. For example, humans today have a much larger heart than someone from, say, the 17/800's, yet not as large as the Native Americans from the same time period. Vegetarianism is also simply illogical. Though bears and monkeys, omnivorous like humans, have compassion and empathy like we do, and are capable of such towards other species, they still hunt to survive. THey know that their bodies need the protein, as do ours. Vegetables and fruits provide very little, if any protein, which our bodies need to build more muscle. THere is scientific proof that Vegetarians are not as healthy and have a terrible BMI because their bodies lack Protein to make muscle. ANy professional athlete will tell you as well that you need to be balanced in what you eat to stay healthy. And I'm not talking meat as in a Bigmac. I mean fresh, hearty, unprocessed meat. There is no escaping that it has to happen.

Yeah? Well my point is that over the past 150 years there has been a huge change in peoples lifestyle, we don't hunt anymore, at least most people, and the few that do usually use guns to hunt, so this idea of us advancing to hunt in muscle strength seems to be more to attract the opposite sex etc. So now the more important part of our evolution is to think more to strive for knowledge, to earn more money, to live better. So the junk in our DNA is not necessary, at least not as much, for hunting. Just to get lucky!

i hunt sometimes with my buddy when i get the chance.

You still ignored most of what I said. The only things you talked about was the change in strength. And I never said humans were becoming stronger. Our muscles are becoming larger, simply saying we have more muscle mass. As for your comment on earning money, knowledge and to live better, that has nothing to do with natural evolution.If money had never been created and people had continued to use a barter system, we would never push for more of it. Human beings are not meant to live indoors. Our build proves that. Many of the diseases that we have now, heart disease, obesity, high cholesterol, etc, never existed in ancient civilizations. There are two reasons for that. 1, the people of the time had no way of escaping the physical activity. THey had no cars or supermarkets, so they had to walk and hunt/gather. 2, They never did just one of those two. They ate what was available to them where they lived, a balanced portion of meat and plant material (actually they ate a little more meat than anything else,but tat just added to the healthiness). These diseases did not even Exist in their time because they ate what was available with no hesitation. Things like diabetes are caused by unbalanced nutrition. Everyone seems to think that a vegetarian diet can stop diabetes, but it can not. I know a woman who nearly died because of type 2 diabetes caused by vegetarianism. it is simply unethical.

Sorry about that, but we have advanced, through unatural selection if you like, and it seems to work. Other traits are more important in our society than larger muscle mass. and with the whole lack of protien thing is a moot point because there are ways to get protien in quorn, the fungus meat sub and tofu.nnow if everyone became a vegetarian,those who could anyway we would still get taller and stronger because that is naturally what happens in evolution, all a change to a vegetarian diet is to shake things up with evolution and in a barter system people still want more than everyone else, wouldn't you?

haha,bit late{or alot}but do you like those wanna be meat flavors?

All of those food items suck. Instead of getting 1/4 of the required protein out of a nasty pale chalky substitute, why not just eat a steak?

Meat substitutes have no where near as much protein as Meat does. I'm not saying this based on opinion. It is solid fact. It has been proven by top molecular scientists. They have said that there is absolutely no way, other than animal products to obtain certain amino acids to make the human protein. Thus, without these products, you can not rebuild your body. The cells that make up your body will become old and die, and not be able to be replaced. Your body will fall apart and you will die a very slow, very painful death. It has been proven.

I'm a vegetarian, so....I'm ok. A balanced diet is nessecary, obviously. And supplements are available.

and there is proof that supplements do not work.

Yes I survive on a vegetarian diet and I have no need for supplements. If you think of the big picture, back to the evolution point. ( warning, half baked theory coming up) I now have a variation that allows me and many other vegetarians that allow us to get by in other ways without specific RNA etc in meat. Give it time to manafest in the gene pool for a few hundred years, we will have an adequate percentage of the population to change opinion..... Assuming we aren't all wiped out by nuclear weapons!

It's simply not possible. You can not make a human protein without animal products

im sorry but if you do believe in evolution you must conclude that mother nature will derive what she needs from somewhere some how. And this may not be able to be seen by anyone in the current transition. There will be notification that it doesn't work at the time due to the current body requirements. I agree that if everyone just started eating vegan style and supplemented for protein by slowly weening themselves off of meat the body could and would find a way to produce life. and thus over a vast time period a new evolutionary path be created. However. I love meat. I am not gonna give it up. And so i aint helping in this matter of evolution. I like deer sausages and bear meat. And if we run out of animals to harvest due to the large nature of people i might go to cannibalism. But i sure hope I dont see that appen in my life time. ( MMMMMM T BONE)

Thats like saying that if everyone stopped pooping we wouldn't have to any more, or like everyone stopped breathing, we wouldn't have to breath. There are somethings that we need to survive.

Stop pooping and see what happens silly man. Stop breathing and see what happens silly fiddleman. The things i refer to is the food source we rely on. Look at the evolutionary chain of man. If you dont think more changes may occur thats fine. I just mearly mean that more changes that are beyond my lifetime will occur. If the population grows expodentially like it is there will come a time when the world will be shoulder to shoulder with people and a small earthquake will be a relief so that others may eat. Due to the majority of the people being pro life and not wanting to kill a person who stole a grape to live, then over population is inevitable. And how do you propose to feed all these people? There wont be enough land mass for agriculture. Hydroponics will have to suffice. And Farming grazing animals will stop. There will be too many mouths and not enough resources. The time will come. not in my lifetime but some day.

Also, if their were less cities, it would solve two problems, over population, and space for livestock to graze. ANd modern day beef and swine don't graze, they are fed through a feed through and slaughtered. Sad but true.

See I said nothing about pro life and pro choice, I think that over population is enevitable, and I do beileve that the human race changes to fit their envirorment, but only a small portion of the population is vegitarian, so if anything, our eating meat will serve to change us into carnivors.

How do you explain that many people are vegetarian from birth? They are full healty now. Standing at your consideration they are non-dead people. And how do you explain some professional athletes are vegetarian? What about Gandhi? He died because of human-meat who shot him, and not because of his vegetarianism or long fasts. You are confusing cause with effect. Accepting true the fact that our muscles are growing, it is an effect of the meat, not the cause of the need for meat. In the last centuries the meat consumption grown so muscles grown. It's true that a diet without meat is problematic in the beginning, but some sort of change in the body exist, that joined with a diet change makes vegetarianism possible. Little amount of meat, joined with legumes and other vegetables, gives you all your needs, but the absence of meat is also tolerable. I'm vegetarian from 4 years, i lost much of my muscle at the beginning, but now i found a balance and my body now looks ok. It changed my mind also. I proved it to me, now i know it's possible, without the need to cite the results of any research. Prove it to yourself. Life without meat isn't comfortable, but possible.

You heal at a slower rate than most people. Your bones are much more brittle because of a lack of calcium and will break easily. You physically can not rebuild in the manner that is necessary. "Now comes the fun part. If you have an essential amino acid deficiency your body your body needs to get the essentials aminos from somewhere - your body begins to cannabilise itself. This leads to a condition known as Protein-Energy Malnutrition (PEM). PEM has the following clinical features: weight loss, diarrhea, loss of lean body mass, muscle weakness, depigmented hair and skin, pressure sores, and depressed immune function. WOW! Healthy now aren't we?" (From an article online from Northwestern University) Vegetarians usually have a Zinc and Iron deficiency, Vitamin D, A and B12 deficiency, a DHA (omega 3 Fatty acid) deficiency, and over-consumption of carbohydrates. If it were a healthy way of life, would you really need to take all the pills and supplements to get what your body needs?

I would reply but all my fingers are broken and I'm to tired from my anemia..... Nah, I disagree, thats only in extreme cases, and that's in comparison to the arsenal of diseases that plague many meat eaters, high blood pressure, heart disease etc

If your fingers were broken you wouldn't have been able to write that you would reply but...