How to Revive an Old Motorcycle: Save Money on Gas/Fuel! Cheap Ride!

 by skunkbait
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Motorcycles are a lot of fun. They can also make for cheap and convenient transportation. I will try to describe a few easy steps to revive (salvage) most old motorcycles. You would not believe how many motorcycles are ridden for 5-10 years and then just parked in a shed or barn to rust. In my experience, I've been able to save about 80% of the old bikes I get, with about $25-$75 in parts and 3-6 hours of work. I've been given several old bikes because someone just wanted them out of the way. I've bought others for less than $250, and ridden them thousands of miles. Hopefully this instructable will give you the information you need to do the same.

NEW NOTE: The response to this instructable has been really good. I hope to do another one related to slightly more advanced/unusual issues related to saving old 2-wheelers. I've had a lot of good suggestions (Tires, exhaust,points, etc.) that I hope to include next go round. Thanks for your enthusiasm and your continued patience!!!
 
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Step 1: Choosing Your Bike : Better Safe than Sorry!

First of all, any free bike is a good bike, even if you just use it for parts. When it comes to actually buying a fixer-upper, you need to check a few things before you lay your money down. The three things (put simply) that a bike needs to run are fuel, fire and compression. These suggestions are for when you purchase a non-running machine.

1. Is it all there? Many broken parts can be repaired easily and cheaply, but missing parts must (usually) be replaced. Pay special attention to gauges, side covers, carbs, sprockets, and brakes. Lots of these parts "walk away" while a bike is lying around unused.

2. Is the engine seized? A seized engine may or may not be a big deal. If you buy one with a seized engine, only pay scrap prices as the engine MAY (or may not) be ruined. I'll show in a later "Ible" how to deal with a seized engine.

3. Can you shift through the gears? Transmission work is no small undertaking (but not impossible) for the newbie!

4. Does it have compression? If you can kick it over (or crank it), check for compression.

5. Consider buying a semi-classic, as these machines are easiest to deal with when searching for replacement parts.
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fonz91 says: Jul 27, 2008. 3:15 PM
Re: Step #4: Some petcock/fuel valves have a vacuum line running to them, and fuel won't flow unless there's a vacuum. Hook up a vacuum pump to test in those cases.
skunkbait (author) in reply to fonz91Jul 27, 2008. 8:05 PM
That's true. I came across one of those the other day. It kind of surprised me as it was a low-quality, low-tech machine. I'm used to seeing that on newer heavier machines.
crpt in reply to fonz91Nov 14, 2010. 3:47 PM
Hi all
For vacuum pump I usualy use a syringe. Works great and it's cheap :)
skunkbait (author) in reply to crptNov 18, 2010. 8:17 PM
Great idea!!
Limadito says: Apr 28, 2013. 7:15 AM
The only word that came to my mind when I see a RD350 is... lust   :-D
sasadler says: Mar 14, 2013. 7:37 AM
I trawl CL looking at old motorcycles all the time. I have a collection of pictures... I just love them. My fear of owning a bike w/ a carburetor has stopped me for ever buying one. I am still intimidated, but your post is inspiring!!!

If you live in Seattle, you could totally teach classes on this. There are tons of people who want these old things.

SA
colelemi says: Mar 7, 2013. 7:21 PM
A buddy of mine just dropped off an old motorcycle at my house. He's moving out of the country and can't do the repair work on it. It's in pretty good condition so I'm glad I found this. Thanks!
2 stroke says: Aug 26, 2012. 9:02 PM
i would love to get a yamaha rd 350 2 stroke forever
skunkbait (author) in reply to 2 stroke Aug 28, 2012. 7:28 AM
I sure do miss my old one! But I still have a Kawasaki S2-350 two stroke...
2 stroke in reply to skunkbaitAug 28, 2012. 11:11 AM
as you cna tell from my username is that im crazy for 2 strokes i rode a 4 stroke dirtbike once and i hated it i like the unpredictable and violent powerband of the 2 stroke i cannot wait till the directinjected 2 stroke motorcycles come out check out the ossa enduro 250i a dream bike the expansion chamber under the exhaust is awesome too di incerases fuel economy by 45% and decrases emissions by 90% i think 2 strokes are making a grat come back onto the street
skunkbait (author) in reply to 2 stroke Aug 29, 2012. 6:09 PM
I look forward to seeing the future of two strokes. I like the smell and the sound, but I LOVE the brutal powerband. BAck in the 70's, my father-in-law had one that would wheelie, at highway speed, with the powerband alone- no clutch work! I also still have 3 Harley ring dings and a Bultaco Sherpa-T 350 (trials bike).
2 stroke in reply to skunkbaitAug 30, 2012. 12:58 PM
i have a 97 honda cr 250 that im selling so i can go to university next year after my 5 years there ill get a new ducati 848 EVO and i will get a husquvarna te 300r which is comming out in 2014 just search direct injectes husquvarna 300 enduro i cannot wait till it comes out i just have to wait 2 years how awsome is that i cant wait for them to make it
potato413 says: Jan 4, 2012. 3:43 PM
Any advice for places to find bikes to restore under a grand? Im looking for something like a cb750 to fix up but cant find anything on craigslist...
watts78 in reply to potato413Jun 4, 2012. 11:49 PM
sorry i meant bikes at
watts78 in reply to potato413Jun 4, 2012. 11:47 PM
you can find old bikesmat scrap yards they usually put the good stuff aside and the employees either take it home or sell it
peaksprt5 says: Apr 1, 2012. 6:59 AM
Be careful with older carbs. The metal is softer and if you use too much torque on the screws they strip easily. Rebuilt my fist carb which was a 78 Honda Goldwing. I stripped about 5 float bowl screws because I thought they needed to be tight. A good gasket will keep the fuel in. You don't need them super tight.
7070x says: Jan 31, 2012. 3:31 PM
For much less of hassle, it's worth of getting NEW plugs at any case. I used to ride 1962 Vespa (piaggio) two strokes engine that required me to clean dirty plug so often. Real pain in the butt, though actually what I usually did only sand off the poles of plugs and bend it inward somehow makes it easier for it to spark.
When doing this, also check the spark plug cable derived from the coil. Often, connection isn't so free at this point. What I'do: unscrew plug from its house, cut the outer skin of plug cable about 2-3cm. Roll up the bones, make them neat and clean. Put it back on. Check if it fires again (kick start it) and connect it to (-) ground.

jonnyjeas says: Dec 6, 2011. 10:22 PM
This awesome
mrlunna13 says: Aug 19, 2011. 3:25 AM
Hello,
Do you know, or do you know if there is anything in here about a seized engine, or have you done the "ible" on a seized motorcycle engine?
Thank you,
Jesse M.
skunkbait (author) in reply to mrlunna13Aug 21, 2011. 9:26 PM
I really need to get back to that, as several people have asked me about the seized engines. I'll try and send you the short version first, as I'm too busy to actually get to writing the ible right now.
abadfart says: Jul 28, 2011. 6:00 PM
o i need some help on parts i cant find any body that caries the o-ring on a pipe that goes between carbs
skunkbait (author) in reply to abadfartJul 28, 2011. 8:15 PM
Hmmm.. I don't think I have any right now, but I'd check the local farm supply or auto parts dealer. If they have fuel resistant O-rings that size, I'm sure they'll be cheaper than the cycle-shop.
abadfart in reply to skunkbaitJul 29, 2011. 12:05 AM
thanks iv been looking all over the web for some that will work
mastermakoko says: Jun 11, 2011. 6:38 AM
hey im looking forward to buy and restore a honda cb100 is it an good?

Is it recommended for a person with no expertise whatsoever in bikes to take care for it?
abadfart says: Aug 25, 2010. 2:09 PM
how do people feel about bikes with automatic transmissions?
Wolframite in reply to abadfartNov 14, 2010. 10:15 AM
I didn't even know they made them.
Kevanf1 in reply to WolframiteJan 13, 2011. 7:59 AM
Both Honda and Yamaha have made them for years. They were similar in looks to a scooter but with slightly larger wheels and more stable for it. They were commonly known as 'step thru's' and came in 50cc, 70cc and 90cc engine sizes. Fantastic and very, very long lived commuter bikes. My grandad had a Honda 50 about 40 yrs ago. Though, to be honest I preferred his Matchless that he rode in the 1950's :-)

Take care.

Kevan
beltenebros in reply to Kevanf1May 19, 2011. 11:14 AM
love Matchless. I have a 1959 AJS Model 16 myself ... the original!
Kevanf1 in reply to beltenebrosMay 19, 2011. 12:40 PM
They certainly made some amazing machines. I recently had the pleasure of having a little ride on a modern Triumph Thruxton 900cc. Got to say, WOW!!!! It was fantastic. My wife wasn't too pleased as she always says, "you are not having another bike". This is because when I was 17 I was extremely lucky not to have been killed when I hit the rear of a wagon at 90mph. I did not even break a fingernail... Yes, I've had bikes since then but I have also succumbed to very severe arthritis. One day though... one day.
skunkbait (author) in reply to abadfartAug 26, 2010. 10:57 PM
Mixed feelings there. They can make decent transportation, and they might be easier to ride (for the inexperienced). But on the other hand, old-school bikers will probably make fun of you.
abadfart in reply to skunkbaitAug 27, 2010. 8:34 AM
ya but they are asking 125 usd for it im just wondering if its worth the cash
skunkbait (author) in reply to abadfartAug 28, 2010. 12:51 AM
If it runs or almost runs, I'd say yes. But if it's one of the Chinese ones, you could still regret it. And hey, if it's not your main transport, at least it'l be fun.
abadfart in reply to skunkbaitAug 28, 2010. 2:17 PM
ya the breaks and carbs are gummed up and the tank needs cleaned. its a honda which i have always liked.
abadfart says: Feb 11, 2011. 11:56 PM
i am thinking about flipping motorcycles i am now riding my cb 650 custom but am looking at a 76 goldwing to fix and sell to buy more and do the same. my home town is very scares on jobs and i think i might be able to make a living off of it
skunkbait (author) in reply to abadfartFeb 12, 2011. 11:10 PM
Dude. Awesome! It can be done. I made quite a bit one year when I had a little more time. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. I've done all of this stuff at one time or another, and would be happy to give you my two cents.
abadfart in reply to skunkbaitFeb 16, 2011. 9:25 AM
ya i have my full automotive stall set up at my parents house with the carb bath an left with a nice big bench so i might as well make use of it
Kevanf1 says: Jan 13, 2011. 8:05 AM
Good 'ible' :) I love those old Suzuki GT models. I used to own a 250 that was sadly not as good as the older Hustler and Super Six models. I had mates who had 185cc, 550cc, 750 (kettle) and the 380cc models. I wrecked mine at 90mph 30 yrs ago. Thankfully I came out of it without even a broken fingernail. I'd still love another one now but they are pretty rare nowadays.

One tip with those GT models. Replace the swinging arm bushes. They are only made fo a substance called Tufnell and are dead easy to replace, no presses needed. Make sure the rear shocks are good and replace the fork oil. All fairly cheap but potentially life saving little jobs as they improve the handling no end.

Take care and ride safe.

Kevan
abadfart says: Oct 17, 2010. 10:58 PM
i picked up this 1980 Honda cb650c for $400 and it was running but it stalled on my way home and it turned out that i was only running on three cylinders so i cleaned the carbs and now its only firing on one but i have full compression.
my bike.jpg
xfirexstarzx in reply to abadfartOct 18, 2010. 8:49 AM
Hmmm, this might sound stupid, but how much gas do you have in it?

Is fuel flowing out of the lines going into the carbs if you detach them and turn the gas on at the tank?

What did you do to clean the carbs? Did you clean all the jets and blow out the idle circuits with compressed air or carb cleaner?

If all else fails, try new plugs.
abadfart in reply to xfirexstarzxOct 18, 2010. 4:58 PM
i used a bath and soaked the carb parts then put them back together that didn't work so i replaced the fuel line but thats because somebody had trimmed it to nothing at all so i gave in and got 4 new plugs and it is now running but its slow jets are gummed up on the right 2 carbs. i got my bags on today and will be putting a windshield and highway pegs with a stereo on latter and im having my friend paint the tank. and im just going to ride it for a couple of days and see if it fixes the slow idle.
my bike with bags.jpg
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