Introduction: How to Travel to London, England - and Have a Great Time!

Having family in England, I try to go there each year to visit. This is how I plan my trip.

When I have picked my travel dates, I visit various on-line travel sites, such as Expedia, Kayak, etc., to find the best deals on flights. However, it is also a good idea to double check the prices against the individual airline web sites, such as American, Virgin and British Airways, because sometimes you can get a better deal if you go to them directly.

By the way you will need a current passport! So make sure you get one in plenty of time before your trip (or renew if it is expiring soon) US citizens do not need a special visa for vacations or business trips in the UK if the visit is for less than six months, (although I heard that the Brits are considering changing this time frame to three months some time in the future.)

http://www.travel.state.gov/passport/passport_1738.html

Step 1: Flying Away!

If you fly from JFK in New York, to London's Heathrow airport, there are plenty of air carriers to choose from. I like to fly direct, as changing planes and hanging around airports is no joke. Incidentally non-stop flights are usually cheaper any way.

Step 2: Hotels, Relatives and Jelly Beans...

Once I have my flight booked, I will go on line to make hotel reservations if I need any. Of course if you are like me and have relatives and friends over there, you will be able to stay with them some of the time, thus saving a lot of money in hotels and meals! The trick however, is not to overstay your welcome with your friends, usually 3 days is long enough, both for me and for them. It is also nice to take over a few inexpensive presents to thank them for their hospitality! Jelly beans and other typically American candies are always a favourite and don’t take up much room in the suitcase. You can always treat your friends and relatives to a nice dinner during your visit as a mark of appreciation.

Step 3: Inform the Relatives!

With the flight and hotels booked, and the adoring relatives looking forward to my visit, I then think of how I am going to get around during my stay in the most economical way

Step 4: Travelling Around in England Via British Rail

As I refuse to drive in England with all the narrow winding roads and extremely fast motorways, I never rent a car (the steering wheel's on the wrong side for a start)but make use of the fairly efficient train services that spider out from central London everywhere you might want to go (unless of course some of them are on strike!) However, train travel is not cheap, but by visiting the Brit Rail website I buy a special travel pass, which lets me make x number of journeys in x number of days.
http://www.acprailnet.com/britrailbook?returnurl=http://www.acprail.com&countrycode=US&languagecode=EN&countrykey=ACP09872
There are a choice of passes depending on how long you are traveling around. These travel passes can only be purchased outside of the U.K. so have to be got ahead of time. They are valid for three months, and if by chance you don't use them you can get your money back, less a small fee. If you are going further into Europe, you can also buy travel passes for travel there also.

Step 5: Explore the Mysteries of the London Underground

The Underground or tube is a wonderful way of getting around London. However if you are travelling with a suitcase to or from the airport, it's not so easy. Many stations have long and short flights of stairs up and down all over the place and no elevators (lifts). However,it is possible by visiting the London Underground web site, to find out which stations have lifts (elevators, This will make your life much easier. Big suitcases on the "moving staircases", (escalators) are a real hazard both to you and others! I lost hold of a suitcase last year and almost demolished a row of fellow travellers below!

You can also get special passes to the London underground (the tube)
http://www.londontravelpass.com/prices.asp?gclid=CLTjqOCp45MCFRUasgodvwUKZg
A map of the underground will come in handy.

By the way, the Underground has some very interesting posters on the walls, although sometimes it's difficult to know what they are advertising!

Step 6: Bus Travel Is Good Too!

There are plenty of buses in London, they travel in convoys! If you sit down the front on the top deck you will have a great view and be protected from wind and rain too! However,they have now done away with many of the famous double deckers on many routes in London and replaced them with strange looking single decked bendy buses which are not to my taste at all!

Don't forget the traffic moves on the left side of the road! Be careful crossing the roads.

Step 7: When in Doubt Take a Taxi

The familiar black London taxi cabs are everywhere, and if you get lost you can always depend on the taxi driver to get you where you want to go. Each taxi driver goes through extensive training. When I was a child I remember seeing groups of them going around on motor scooters learning where everything was.

Step 8: Seeing the Sights

If you are into visiting lots and lots of interesting places in London, you can also buy something called a London Pass which will let you in to all the more famous attractions at enormous savings. However, you have to work very hard at using this to get your money's worth!
http://www.londonpass.com/index_attractions.asp?WT.mc_id=155&WT.mc_ev=click&AID=155

Of course there are lots of places to visit free of charge, like Tower Bridge, Covent Garden Market and Trafalgar Square. A visit to St. Paul's Cathedral http://www.stpauls.co.uk/page.aspx?theLang=001lngdef&pointerid=169345dwprEOVViTRLd8xXbHBDHGbzge will cost you but it's worth the view from the dome and the ball and cross if you have a head for heights.

The Tower of London is worth visiting to see the crown jewels alone. You will get free admission with your London Pass. http://www.hrp.org.uk/toweroflondon/

I love the the British Museum!
http://www.britishmuseum.org/default.aspx The Great Court alone is well worth a visit!

My favourite museum is the Museum of London located in the City at the Barbican, where you can trace London's history from Roman times to the present day. Also the Lord Mayor's coach is on display here.
http://www.museumoflondon.org.uk/English/

The London Eye http://www.londoneye.com/ will cost you but the views are amazing - don't go on a rainy day, as you won't see anything!

Step 9: The Terrific Thames!

No trip to London would be complete without taking a boat ride along the River Thames. You get a completely different "feel" of London from its famous river.

There are many different tours offered with starting points on the north side of the river, including those at the Tower of London; at a place close to Westminster Bridge and on the Embankment at Charing Cross. Each boat usually has a guide who points out the sights on the river bank as you float by and some of these guides are real "characters" and can be very entertaining. It is customary to tip these "characters" at journey's end. You can take short trips between the Tower and either Charing Cross or Westminster or longer ones further upstream to visit Greenwich the home of the prime meridien and the famous Naval College. Try to pick a fine day for your trip as you will get so much more enjoyment if the sun is shining. It's miserable in the pouring rain.

A river trip at night is even more special, with all the buildings and bridges illuminated for your viewing pleasure.

Don't have time for a boat road, not to worry, a simple walk along the Embankment between Blackfriars Bridge and Westminster Bridge can be rewarding too.

Step 10: Take in a West End Show

I usually like to take in at least one theatre visit during my stay and the best and cheapest way is to book the ticket on line through a web site called London Town. I choose my show, the date and time and then buy the cheapest ticket offered. I have found that on the night of the performance it is always possible to move down from the cheap seat into a more expensive one, in fact the theatre staff encourage you to do so. The shows I have seen have not been the latest shows but ones that have been running for a while. It is harder to get tickets for the newest shows. However, I have paid far less for my tickets in London than I have paid for ones on New York' Broadway, in spite of the poor dollar exchange rate

http://www.londontown.com/

Step 11: The London Walks - I Thoroughly Recommend Them

If you have time, go on at least one of the London Walks. There are plenty to choose from and I am sure you will find one that suits your taste. I have been on the Jack the Ripper Walk, the Christopher Wren churches walk, and a great pub walk. These walks take place daily, come rain and shine and are very inexpensive. The leaders of the walk are usually actors in real life and very very good. Although I consider myself a "Londoner", I have learnt so many new and interesting things that I wouldn't have believed possible on a "walk".

A new walk adding recently is called the Da Vinci Code walk, and this is one I plan to take on my next visit at the end of this year.

http://www.walks.com

Step 12: Traveling Light and Make Room for Souvenirs.

When traveling, it is always important to travel light. As I usually travel in the fall or early winter I need warmish clothes. Therefore, I travel in a skirt, blouse, sweater and have a warm winter coat, hat scarf and gloves as well as the usual underwear. One suitcase (one of those on wheels that turn every which way)and one carry on bag is enough. In my suitcase, along with toiletries, I will pack underwear, another skirt and 4 or 5 blouses, plus an extra pair of shoes. As the dollar is very weak against the pound, it is better to take your own shampoo, soap, toothpaste, etc. with you, so you don't have to buy them over there, thus wasting your spending money when you can be buying lots of really "useful" souvenirs. Best places to find the cheapest "flag-infested" items are around Trafalgar Square and along Oxford Street.

Of course, camera is essential as there are wonderful photo opportunities.

Step 13: No Needles or Pins Allowed!

Remember when you are traveling by air, any cosmetics, or liquids in your hand luggage have to be placed in a clear plastic bag so that airport security can check the contents. Also scissors, sharp knitting needles, pins, knives, cigarette lighters, etc. are a definite no-no for carrying on, These can be placed in the suitcase destined for the hold of the aircraft, except the cigarette lighter, which you may not take at all. Cigarette lighters are a low grade fire hazard. Last time at Heathrow airport airline personnel were handing out these plastic bags if you didn't have one.

The TSA provides a complete list of things you cannot take with you and you can check this out on their website quite easily.

http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/prohibited/permitted-prohibited-items.shtm#1

Step 14: Have a Great Trip !

Finally do not make silly jokes about having bombs in your luggage etc. to airport staff. They will not see the funny side of this, and you could end up being arrested! (true) In spite of this warning, enjoy your trip and have a great time. If you are over 18, don't forget to drink my health in one of the many wonderful London pubs!

Step 15: Of Course, When You Have Been Away...........

It's always nice to come home. Welcome back!

Comments

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london11 (author)2017-03-22

I will visit London ♥ soon

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lfors1 (author)2014-05-20

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allows you to rent a car in any city in the country. Very comfortable.

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steveastrouk (author)2014-05-02

Love the Flanders and Swan quote

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ivietnamtravel (author)2012-06-08

When a man is tired of London, he is tired of life; for there is in London all that life can afford


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ber3gf (author)2011-10-10

Thank you. I have some friends in London and now I am planning a travel, i live in colombian Coast,(a paradise for me) see you.

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mrfusi0n (author)2010-07-04

I'm very happy to see this guide, I just wish I had seen it sooner. I'm currently near the end of a three week stay in London for business (after which I'll be returning to Maine). Since I've been staying in a hotel near St. Paul's Cathedral, I've spent quite a few hours wandering around various places via the tube and buses but also quite a bit in this area. If you're up for a good 2 or 3 mile walk, I would highly recommend the following route: 1) Start from and check out St. Paul's Cathedral (or follow this list in reverse). 2) Head south and cross the the Millennium Bridge. 3) If you like modern art, check out the Tate Gallery of Modern Art at the south end of the bridge. 4) Head east (and a little south) to Borough Market for amazing variety of food, wine, cheese, fruit, etc. 5) Now go north east to the Thames river and follow the walking path at the river's edge east. 6) This walking path will take you to the WWII ship HMS Belfast. A little further is city hall. I don't know if there's much to do there but I was lucky enough to find a free theater performance going on out front. 7) Slightly farther east you will find the Tower Bridge. I'm sure you would have noticed this back at step 5. 8) Cross the Tower Bridge back to the north side of the river 9) When you reach the north end of the bridge, you can check out the Tower of London which will be on your left (north west). 10) Extra step. If you want to make this a complete circuit, you can head north west to the Bank of England on your way back to St. Paul's. That's it! Lots to see and experience in just a 2 or 3 miles walk, if of course, you don't mind all the walking!

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ratgod (author)2010-05-26

Nice pics, but northern England is much cleaner and nicer :) but then again I'm a Mancunian so I would be a little biased on the subject :)

My mum come from London though so we visited a lot.

Did you see the H.M.S Belfast while you were there?

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randomhand (author)2010-04-13

Londons Hidden Gem - The Cheshire Cheese
parts of it from the 13th centuary, rebuilt after the great fire(1666). renound drinking hole of Dr Samuel Johnson - genuine living history, perfect beer and Ludicrously cheep price £1.90 a pint.

Its in the middle of fleet street hidden around the corner of the banking district and not far from st pauls.

http://www.pubs.com/main_site/pub_details.php?pub_id=154#

its my favorite pub. :)

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randomhand (author)randomhand2010-04-13

And charles Dickens. i forgot.

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gareth99 (author)2010-02-26

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SkinnE (author)2010-01-16

The traffic being on the left means that usually, you need to look to your right to check for any immediate threats when crossing.  Helpfully, most cities now paint instrucitons on the tarmac at crossings indicating which direction to look for traffic. 

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SkinnE (author)2010-01-16

No, the steering wheel is on the "right" side, just look.  See, right side.  :p  It was a British car after all... 


Nice 'ible,

E

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lemonie (author)2009-02-28

This is quite comprehensive!
You might like to add a UK-based train guide to it:
http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/

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(I have family near Woodbridge)

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stinkymum (author)lemonie2009-03-01

You are right. I never thought of that. The trains drove me mad, with all the special rules and regs on buying cheap tickets. Luckily I had purchased my rail card before I went which saved me mega bucks and I could travel any time on any train.

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F1X0R (author)2008-07-03

Wow I see a lot of people are bad mouthing london. Great! go away, we don't want you here. I might (as I have a lot of time off) make an instructable on getting around and places to visit in London, from a Londoners point of view. Some of the great places that you don't see in the tourist travel guide. With regards to photography on the tube. I have a few nice pictures of my friends and I standing on a platform at Temple station, and Angel Islington station. The met or city of london police may get a bit picky if you've got a big DSLR and are taking a lot of photos, but I've never been stopped. They can not make you delete your photos, remember that, some officers (tend to be new) have in the past tried to (with varying success) tried to make people Delete photos. You are no longer permited to smoke in any enclosed public space any more, though it will be marked with a nice big no smoking sign, makes my day better anyway. My biggest tip is, don't drive, london is very busy, so you won't get far, try to avoid traveling in rush hour, Buses, trains, Tube trains, DLR services, they all get packed out. Buy a 1 day (or I think you can buy 3 and 7 day ones too) that give you access for that day to all the above services. and the one day one is GBP 7 so about $13 or so for an adult and 2 pounds for a child under 16, just don't make my friends mistake and carry your driving license and then buy a child ticket! London is great really, Huge cultural melting pot, there are a lot of people from very different backgrounds here. Very modern, and old buildings, a lot of interesting history, most museums are free or have a very nominal entry fee, the Natural history museum and Science Museum are both pretty great and free.

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stinkymum (author)F1X0R2008-07-05

I agree about not driving in London. Beware the "dreaded Congestion Charing Zone" My husband and I got caught entering it a few years ago when it was fairly new - we had never heard of it, and the car rental place didn't warn us! However we fought the fines imposed and won! We just paid the basic fee, which was fine with us.

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F1X0R (author)stinkymum2008-07-06

You want to ask the locals that have to deal with it everyday (and don't forget its bigger with the western extension, but that may be scrapped) and well, the replies would only be aired after the watershed. My Dad when traveling into it nearly got a fine because the guy that printed up the original "pass" got his number plate wrong by one digit. They did let him off though. It is something that is very unpopular with everyone in London. Given the motorist has to pay Road fund license anyway. /rant But try to avoid actually driving, partially if you are not used to driving on the left. In other words it may take some time to get used to a car where everything is the right way around!

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stinkymum (author)F1X0R2008-07-06

Too right!

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thinker (author)stinkymum2008-08-10

londons new mayor has delared it his mission to get rid of the bendy busses, so you shouldnt have to see them for too long +

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F1X0R (author)thinker2008-08-12

Yeah Boris Johnson says a lot of things. He said he'd bring back routemasters, so they were wheelchair friendly (they were scrapped because it is hard for them to be used by wheelchair users) and make them hybrid powered, now after he gets into office "That might be too expensive" which roughly translates as, ain't gonna happen.

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The Jamalam (author)F1X0R2008-10-24

Apparently we invented ping pong and called it wif waf if i remember rightly...

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stinkymum (author)thinker2008-08-11

Hooray - I hate those things. The double decker is a London icon. It's a shame you see more of them in New York City and Toronto. To quote Flanders and Swan from their song Transport of Delight! "That 30-foot-long by 10-foot-wide Inside that monarch of the road, Observer of the Highway Code, That big six-wheeler scarlet-painted London transport diesel-engined 97-horsepower omnibus."

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johnomi (author)2008-09-16

I live here, not to offend anyone but i dont see why people come here. Theres only a few attractions and no not everyone speaks like on the tv shows. Why not go to NY or Dubai or somewhere else nice, thats only my opinion. Feel free to visit!

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stinkymum (author)johnomi2008-09-16

Perhaps they do go to NY and Dubai and lots of other places - and London too! (I don't think I fancy Dubai myself though!)

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wibbble (author)2008-06-25

Yeah, but don't take pictures inside or of the outside of Tube stations. That's not legal any more and the Met will probably shoot you in case you're a terrorist. Don't go to London! It's a horrible, horrible city. Dirty, overcrowded, and miserable.

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stinkymum (author)wibbble2008-06-25

I note you are from Edinburgh - now that is a beautiful city - like London!

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wibbble (author)stinkymum2008-06-25

I try to spend as little time in London as I possibly can - I just don't see the appeal. Edinburgh's much nicer, but so is Glasgow, or Birmingham, or any other city I've been to! There's also something of a cultural issue: the vast majority of the UK media are based out of London and there's an inherent assumption in most of the major newspapers and all the TV broadcasting that their main audience is in London. Which is hellishly annoying when you live very far away from London. FWIW, my comment about photographing the Tube is correct - a BBC news crew got moved on by the police for trying to use a Tube station as a backdrop. You need to get a permit or face getting your camera taken off you.

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killerjackalope (author)wibbble2008-06-26

London isn't all bad, just 99%... glasgow's good, I liked it alot, Edinburgh is prett nice as well... Another suggestion for the anti London is Windermere by lake Windermere in Wales, it's lovely in the summer and they have these little boats, a leatherman takes two minutes to allow you full throttle... Or Kendal aswell... But you come back sick as a dog, all the sweety shops... I live in belfast and would only suggest it for a couple of days if you already live in the UK, it's not massively different to some places... However if you're an American you'll love Belfast, it happens to have everything within walking distance of the hotel - A bar, A tonne of resteraunts, a bunch of landmarks, chocolate shop (americans don't get decent chocolate), trains station, ach you get the idea... I always wanted to see an American walk in to a tescoes, their reaction...

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American, here to answer your not-quite-asked query:

The first Tesco that I walked in to was in Bangkok. It was not very bewildering and reminded me of a large Fred Meyer. Okay, technically it was a Tesco Lotus...

The second Tesco I saw was in Prague, where I greeted it as a beacon of convenience after too much time grocery-shopping in Italy.

And the third Tesco was actually in London: I giggled at the precooked pasta and sauce in plastic containers, pitying the poor English that ate those for lunch (again, too much time in Italy). I haven't spent enough time shopping in London to really understand the difference, foodwise, between Sainsbury's and Tesco, but it is sure to be vast.

And lastly, Americans do get decent chocolate. You may have realized that Cadbury's and Mars are pale shadows of their anglo-versions and are better avoided, but have you tried San Francisco's Ghiradelli chocolate chips, widely available in supermarkets? I would also point any visiting foreign chocoholics to shop at Trader Joe's, where the chocolate is as delicious as it is foreign. Oh yeah, and Whole Foods, how can I forget...

My own request is what are small, cheap, and fairly light-weight "hostess" gifts from the United States that would be appreciated in the UK?

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giggled at the precooked pasta and sauce in plastic containers, pitying the poor English that ate those for lunch (again, too much time in Italy) - After italy my mum had no idea when I'd be back, she cooked pasta and I actually felt disgusted by it and found out the only other option was a ready meal, lasagne...

Tescoes, they would be the everybody food, cheap and cheerful, ASDA (Walmart owned) are the cheaper but quite often better choice for decent food, Marks and Spencer are the overpriced and slightly better tasting super market. Sainsbury's are somewhere in between tesco and M&S. LIDL, pretty much trader joes, mainly german, rock bottom prices but quite often have the best cheese, chocolate and nice things in them.

I've missed supervalu but that's because they're falling away slowly.

Agreeably I was being a bit too brash about american chocolate, you are still able to have a good dark chocolate just the same as ours but some things like green and blacks just blow the standard stuff away, imported stuff will always help I suppose but when it comes to milk chocolate to grab at the shop it's an issue, most of the americans I know that live here now took a year gaining weight because they were acclimatising to cheap chocolate that's different from their own...

Umm cheap little gifts from america, think things you didn't get in the souvenir shop, granted a little lady liberty or an I love wherever T-shirt is good.

Fancy bringing me back some antlers?

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AXHEJAZ (author)killerjackalope2008-06-29

LOL

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wibbble (author)killerjackalope2008-06-26

Tesco are actually a world-wide chain. They have them - under different branding - in some parts of the US and have them under 'Tesco' branding in, for example, China.

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killerjackalope (author)wibbble2008-06-26

I knew that but americans and british tescoes would be interesting, it's like a dept. store but with just groceries and a few other bit's depending on which one...

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wibbble (author)killerjackalope2008-06-27

Eh, it would be amusing for them to see all the different 'Brit' products, but not a particularly new experience per se. They have supermarkets in America!

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killerjackalope (author)wibbble2008-06-27

The experience is different, people wise as well as the products...

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Actually lake Windermere is not in Wales, it's in the English lake district in Cumbria and it is beautiful. I went there for my honeymoon - back in the dark ages! By the way I was born in England and lived there for 37 years. I would love to visit Belfast and Dublin and sadly have never visited Ireland yet. I agree with you about the chocolate by the way. I don't understand the bit about Tescoes though. Tescoes is great but there are great supermarkets over here too.

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Oh I got mixed up, it was on a trip throughout everywhere and I had forgotten when wales ended... No I mean it's not small for use but the idea of it not having the other sections might be weird... As a suggestion for next time pick up some green and blacks chocolate...

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jlms (author)wibbble2008-06-27

Again, you don't know what you are talking about. Professional photography may be regulated in some places for diverse reasons (even in Canary Wharf you need a permit for this, even though it would seem like a public space). The regular public is at complete freedom to take pictures as long as one does not make a nuisance of himself. London is one of the top cultural centres in the world. Classical and pop music, museums, teathre, cinema, literature are all well represented by regular visits of world top class performers. London is also host to many sports events like regular Premiership matches (the best league in the world, there are always 6 or 7 teams in the top flight), Wimbledon tennis tournament, one official NFL game and many others. Foodwise London is unbeatable. For 3 or 4 quid you can go to a takeaway and buy Chinese, Indian, Turksih, Lebanese, Japanese, Italian or many other kinds of food, or sit down in a proper restaurant and sample delicacies from anywhere around the world (including haggis mind you). Finally how the media behaves has nothing to do with the objective qualities of London as a place. You can't seriously transfer your dislike of the media attitude against London i general. It simple is not objective.

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wibbble (author)jlms2008-06-27

Canary Wharf is private property, as is made explicit by the sign on the walkway across the dock which goes to great lengths to point out that it's not a public highway and by allowing you access they're not granting you any other rights, blah, blah, blah. Technically the Tube is too, although that might not occur to most people. I'm not going to respond to the rest for the simple reason that opinions do not need to be objective.

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jlms (author)wibbble2008-06-27

Opinions do not need to be objective, but the relative merits or demerits of London have nothing to do with the prominence the media decides to give to it. Trying to disparage about London because you disagree how it is portrayed on the media is frankly childish and irrational. Sticking to verifiable facts is still the best way to inform a conversation about something. Even in private property, if you are not informed explicitly that you can't take pictures, you can snap away and it is up to the owner to inform you if you need to stop (and even then they can't force you to delete the pictures).

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wibbble (author)jlms2008-06-28

Look, just because you don't like my opinion doesn't mean that it isn't valid. I have many reasons for disliking London beyond the horrendous media bias - but that's not really the point, is it? You don't like that I've said 'mean' things about a city you like. (Presumably you're a Londoner?) That's unfortunate, but not my problem.

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thinker (author)wibbble2008-08-10

i dont really care for london All That Much, but i have noted the way you started basing your dislike in facts, then when said facts where proved wrong (or at least innacurate) you backpedalled and said that opinion doesnt have to be objective, then when confronted again, used the "its my opinion and it doesnt matter what you think because of that" argument when at the end of the day, instructables comments are meant to be "positive and constructive" please take note from this and leave private squabbles to messages or some other place then debasing a Very Good and Useful instructable

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wibbble (author)thinker2008-08-11

Two points: Firstly, there were two parts to my original comment, one was about the rules on photographing the Tube which was not opinion and I've stated my evidence for elsewhere. The second part of the somewhat facetious negative comments towards London. That part was purely opinion. Secondly, these comments were all made months ago and if you wanted this comment thread to only be a nice place why did you bother leaving your own opinion here? Raising this issue again isn't going to change my opinion on London, but it does perpetuate the debate, which seems to be the opposite of what you state you want.

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jlms (author)wibbble2008-06-27

That is completely untrue. You can take as many pictures as you like outside tube stations. Inside tube stations the only restriction is that falsh photography is not allowed. London i snot horrible: the architecture is unique and interesting, it is not more overcrowded than other places, neither is dirty. Unfortunately most people see only Central London and live with this wrong impression of the full town forever, nevertheless it takes a shor tube ride to places like Blackheat, Primrose Hill, Richmond and other similar places to really get to know London beyond the tourist cliches propagated by misinformed people.

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wibbble (author)jlms2008-06-27
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jlms (author)wibbble2008-06-27

Which part of "LU Film Office Commercial Film/Photography Rates" is not clear? It is nice to pull straws to win an argument, but the truth lies elsewhere. Tourist photography is not commercial and as long as you are not told to stop by a member of staff (since you are in "private" property) you can snap away as much as you wish. Normally the only reason you will be stopped is if you use flash, try to set up a tripod or become an annoyance to other users. As for taking pictures outside tube stations, specially in public spaces, there is absolutely no shred of truth that such activity is not permitted or that is regulated in general. To say it is illegal takes the biscuit.

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wibbble (author)jlms2008-06-28

I quote:

> Do I need to obtain permission to film or photograph on London
> Underground?

> Yes. Anybody wanting to film or take pictures must seek prior permission
> from the London Underground Film Office.

(Emphasis added.)

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stinkymum (author)wibbble2008-06-25

Everyone has an opinion - thanks for sharing yours!

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Kiteman (author)2008-06-08

You came to England and didn't call in? Shame on you!

When did you travel, though? Concorde hasn't flown out of Heathrow for five years, and you've got two in that photo!

Other sites I can personally recommend - Science Museum, British Museum, V&A museum (since you're into fabrics & what-not, not good for small kids), Covent Garden market, Imperial War Museum. Have a ride in a black cab. Tate Modern, and the Millennium Bridge.

Oh, and the London Eye has the same carry-on rules as airports, because it's owned by British Airways. They took my camera tripod off me last time (you get them all back, though).

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thinker (author)Kiteman2008-08-10

call in where? o.0

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