Making A Glove Work With A Touch Screen

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Creative swashbuckler. Jack of all trades, master of a couple. If it involves computers, cooking, mechanical design, material science, electronics, photography or just about anything else I'm interested in it and learning more about how it works.
I live in downtown San Francisco, make things for a living and have my laboratory in a walk-in closet, so you're not going to see projects from me that require lots of big tools. (Table saw? I wish.)
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introMaking A Glove Work With A Touch Screen
You can do this in just a few minutes without a lot of know-how.
Winter's coming up (if you're in the Northern Hemisphere) and with winter comes cold weather, and with cold weather comes gloves. But even in the cold your phone probably still rings. And while I love my touch screen phone, I hate that I can't use it with gloves on.
There are gloves out there that allow you do use your touch screen, but why buy special gloves when, with just a few stitches you can convert the gloves you already have?
step 1What You NeedMost modern touch screens use "capacitive touchscreen" which you can read about at length here, but in short it means that for a glove to work with a touch screen it needs to complete a circuit with your finger. So that's what we're going to do by putting some conductive thread between the screen and our finger.SkillsYou need to be able to sew a few stitches without ki…
step 2Sew#1 Thread your needleYou don't need a whole lot of thread, just a foot or so.#2: Sew a few stitches in the finger of your glove.On the outside try to make the stitches pretty close so it only touches the screen in a smallish area (about 1/4" or 6mm in diameter.) This will help your finger touches be more accurate. Tip: Don't make it too small! The iPhone, for example,…
step 3UseGo ahead and give it a try! Put on your glove and see what you can do with your phone.No, it won't be as accurate as using your bare hands but it is good enough that I was still able to type on the iPhone keyboard without too many errors. And now I don't have to take off my glove just to answer a call or read an email.
| Jan 24, 2010. 3:56 PMWolfix
says:
What are those gloves? They look awesome!! |
| Jan 25, 2010. 9:13 PM Grathio(author)
says:
I wish I knew! I bought them at the sporting goods store in the ski department )I think). The only brand info they have is a little white tag with an orange-red G on it. The tail of the G is an arrow. If you figure it out let me know, I'm going to need another pair eventually.
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| That sounds like the burton logo. https://www.nexternal.com/shreddingb/images/burton%20logo.jpg
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| Jan 26, 2010. 1:38 PM Grathio(author)
says:
Bingo! (No wonder I couldn't find any info, that totally looked like a "G" to me...) Here they are. |
| Would these gloves work with a classic ipod wheel? That'd be great,
cause then I wouldn't have to keep taking off my gloves to adjust the volume. |
| I dunno if anyone asked this, but why wouldn't you just sew some fine
copper wire into the finger. The reason being the wire would be
easily at hand rather than ordering conductive thread. Just a thought.
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| Jan 25, 2010. 11:50 AM Grathio(author)
says:
For several reasons. - Because copper wire can more easily damage the coatings on the screen.
- Even small strands of copper are less flexible than conductive thread, its harder to get proper contact with the screen.
- It's much less comfortable to have bits of wire rubbing against your finger inside the glove.
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| Fair enough, there seems to be some ways around it to me but the
conductive thread looks like the best way to do it. The screen seems
pretty indestructible to anything coming into contact with it (except
the ground when innocently dropped...). Either way, good idea and nice ible.
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| I put together a kit on ebay to make it easy to convert your gloves
works pretty good :) and pretty cheap with everything you need, if
you search for
Iphone / Ipod Winter Glove Kit
you can find it :) or if you have everything already and need
help msg me and I can help you out with making your own :)
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| You could also save a lot of effort, and use a AA or AAA battery.
It even works with one that's dead.
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| That does work, but then you have to have a battery handy. Sewing
a few pieces of thread into a glove isn't really much effort, then you
never have to remember your battery... plus it's so much cooler to have
magic gloves ;) |
| Jan 4, 2010. 11:43 AM Grathio(author)
says:
A battery is absolutely another option but using two for multitouch is a bit of a juggling act.
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| My ipod works with gloves...?
It's not the conductivity, it's the heat.
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| It is most certainly the conductivity. The iPhone's screen is a
capacitive touchscreen, and as it says on Wikipedia, "A capacitive
touchscreen panel consists of an insulator such as glass, coated with a
transparent conductor such as indium tin oxide (ITO). As the human body
is also a conductor, touching the surface of the screen results in a
distortion of the local electrostatic field, measurable as a change in
capacitance." Laptop trackpads and iPod scroll-wheels work using
the same principle, so this glove mod can also be used for those devices.
See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touchscreen#Capacitive
And here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitive_sensing
And for the iPhone specifics, see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPhone#Screen_and_input |
| A bit late, If you look below you'll see I already know that...
My point is that ipods do not work with cold fingers.
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| My iPhone most certainly does work with cold fingers. I'm not sure you
are right about this...
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| Ipods I have:
G2 Original (30GB)
G5 Video (30GB)
V1 Touch (32GB)
V2 Touch (32GB)
NONE of them work in the climate here, how cold are you talking?
My Ipod shuffle G1 and G2 Both work, obviously.
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| My Touch G1 works fine when my fingers are cold. Here's a
specific: -27. Celsius. |
| Mine stops working before then, about -20 C.
But some of my friends do work, so it might be just mine.
But when it gets really cold, none of them work (The coldest
temperature here was below -50 C )
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| Noticed the same while living my entire life in Finland. My theory
is that when your hands are warm they are rarely very dry, but when
they're cold they are more dry than warm hands leading to less
conductive hands so maybe when they're cold the touchwheel or
touchscreen recognizes them as some kind of "background noice". |
| Excellent theory. I think you're probably right. |
| Someone probably said the same before me. Not reading all comments
before posting leads to nowhere. |
| That or warmth=sweat, Sweat=salt, Salt = conductivity
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| Just stick a finger up your nose for a few seconds before you use the
ipod touch, or iphone, and you'll be good as gold (no pun intended).
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| "It's not the heat, its the humidty"
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| heat would be very inaccurate and you really need to do research before
you talk.
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| Dec 2, 2009. 7:06 AMpow
says:
roy you are the reason why i hate people...mostly, mostly |
| i know im a duche bag and im sorry didnt mean for that to come out as offensive
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| Explain why my ipod works ONLY when my fingers are warm, no matter
how thick the gloves I am wearing it still works if the tips are warm.
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| its called capacitive touch which means it acts like a capacitor and not
any heat sensor and you cant tell if your fingers are cold or not, your
body temperature is mostly constant. and if your i pod doesnt work
somtimes then your in trouble and do you really think apple is dumb
enough to do somthing like that where if its freezing out side the
device wont work. and we are talking about the ipod touch if your
getting confused about another one.
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| Why does it work with something that's warm then?
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| give me an example of somthign you used that was warm and it worked
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| It worked with my glove that I wasn't wearing.
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| im sure it dident and again is it an itouch or the older ones that you
rotate
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| One of the very first Ipod touches
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| i think its possible that your glove was just thin at that moment
or the heat let your electric current go through, but the ipod wouldn't
be designed to sense heat because it should work with cold fingers, and
not while in a hot bag. |
| Ok, in that case, think differently.
Why doesn't it work with cold fingers?
I agree it probably isn't heat, but why would it not work with
cold fingers?
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| i said they design the product to work with cold fingers. i'm
sorry but you don't need to keep commenting on this there are already a
lot of posts explaining how they work. |
| So you're saying they designed it to work, but it doesn't?
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| Nov 27, 2009. 11:52 AMValche
says:
Give it up, chump. It's not heat sensitive.
http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/iphone1.htm
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| Ok, I'll ask it in the questions section, because nobody is capable of
explaining why ipods don't work when you're cold.
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| i hope this helps with the confusion arguments on this instructable ,
sorry for making is so long
there are 2 types of touch screens, the kind that work with a stylus, i
will call them "type A" (PDA, Nintendo DS), and the kind that
you use with your finger "type B"(ipod touch/iphone,ATM
machines) none of them are heat sensitive.
with "type A" there is a sensor that detects where the stylus
(or finger, they work with just about anything) is at to work.
"typeB" have a special membrain between the screen and circuit
boards behind the screen. when using that kind of touch screen
your finger is literally smashing the membrane and the screen
together,(which is why an iphone will not work with a stylus, its not
based on pressure but on surface area of the pressed space). like most
electronics when its to cold/to hot they will malfunction
slightly. they are calibrated so that a finger is the
"only" thing that works on them, (other wise they would do
weird things in your pocket) gloves usually make touch screens not work
because they get in the way of the small amount of electricity humans
naturally have in there bodies. this "electricity"
causes the touch screen to get a different reading where ever your
finger is. if your gloves are thin enough they will not interfere with
the "connection". if you want more information on this
topic just send me a message, ill go in more depth and try to add some
pictures if that will help.
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| Nov 28, 2009. 10:54 AMBartboy
says:
OK, I get that.
But what I don't get is why the "type B" ones don't work
when your fingers are really cold.
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| its not that your fingers are cold, as i stated before,"like
most electronics when its to cold/hot they will malfunction.
in the "type B" ones the membrane is slightly
frozen so its not as responsive, or the circuit boards are to
cold and not functioning. if the device has been in your pocket or
some place "just the right temperature" but your hands are
cold (ipod warm, hand cold) then it is a lack
of electrostatic connection due to cold hands being to
dry/moist to successfully carry a large
enough charge to make a reading. if you still have
more questions please send me a private message, this question
chain is getting ridiculously long |
| "it is a lack of electrostatic connection due to cold
hands being to dry/moist"
Thanks, no more questions.
Although, every comment increased the number of comments on this ible :P
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| i'm saying that they designed it to work with cold fingers so they
wouldn't make it heat sensitive. and i really don't care if you don't
understand anymore. there are way too many comments on this. |
| Is it an ipod touch or an ipod with a click wheel?
|