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Squishing a Honda DHX50 Engine into a 24" Boys Huffy Cranbrook Beach Cruizer

Step 1: Motorized Bicycle DIY: the Hard Way

Squishing a Honda GXH50 into a Huffy 24" boy's Cranbrook Cruiser Bicycle.

Oh good gawd! More Updates:

The replacement engine decided to separate the piston from the crankshaft! (luckily, I caught it before it was trashed). [nasty loud noises can be a blessing sometimes]

As long as I had it all disassembled, I decided to to a full overhaul. The rear frame has been re-centered (it seems that I did a "less than accurate job" of that initially); The seat post has been reclaimed and lengthened (I can pedal it now!); and the engine has been repaired.

I hope to have it back on the road by the end of the weekend! (Woo Hoo!)

/# end of update - BACK TO THE SHOW!


170 MPG - Really?

Short answer: NO - not for me, I drive full throttle almost all the time (30 mph), and I'm getting 110-130 mpg (depending on the wind)
Long answer: YES - if you're just going for a leisurely putt around town and aren't in a hurry - yes, it will get 170 MPG!

uh oh... the short answer was longer than the long answer... (sorry!)

The "Other" Answer?

IT GETS OVER ONE HUNDRED MILES TO THE GALLON NO MATTER HOW FAST YOU DRIVE!

OK, enough with all that!

We now return you to your original programming-in-progress...
(Sorry you were so rudely interrupted by this tacky updatey-thingy)

SO GET ON WITH IT!


WARNING:
As of 2012, the Minnesota statutes have re-classified Motorized-Bicycles as MOPEDs and are
now required to be registered and plated. BUT!!! (and this is the part that makes me angry)
The DMV/DVS will NOT register "homemade" MOPEDs without a federally approved MSO (Manufacturer's Statement of Origin)
a.k.a. built in a federally recognized and registered factory.
Since *I* am the manufacturer, there is no way I can possibly do that.

I am currently pursuing registering it as a "Specially Constructed Vehicle" - lumped in with Choppers, Street-Rods, Reconstructions, and all other modified vehicles. These people want RECEIPTS!
When I started this project a year ago, it was a BICYCLE and I didn't bother keeping any receipts (who could have known?)
Do yourself a favor: SAVE ALL RECEIPTS!

OH NO!!! MORE UPDATES!!! (run away! run away!)

Update 2013/09/02:
I've added some recent pictures of her:

New "Tail-feathers" (she now has "running lights")
New buckboard (strangely attached)
New Collapse-able Saddle Basket (she's now a workhorse! - I can actually carry sh*t now!)

Update 2013/08/25:
The lighting circuitry is still a work-in-progress...

With the addition of 2x 1N4001 diodes in a "Y" configuration, the lights are now powered by the batteries while it's not moving (a.k.a. "stand lights")

AND, when it's moving, everything is now powered by the dynamo!

Also, it now has additional "running lights" and a re-designed (and removable) tail light assembly.
Updates to the circuit diagrams are forthcoming as well as new pictures - when I can find the time.
(it's been a busy summer!)


Update 2013/06/02:
After much frustration with the electrical system involving 2x 2.7v 82f "SuperCapacitors" in series, I have decided to dump them all together due to the fact that "THE LIGHTS DON'T COME ON UNTIL THE SUPERCAPACITORS ARE CHARGED".

I've done my best to find a way to overcome this problem, but hey: I'm not an EE.

(Driving 1+ miles in the dark until they charge is totally unacceptable)

The system is now split into:

1: The Headlight is exclusively powered by the Dynamo running through the rectified/regulated circuit.
1a. The voltage regulator has been changed to an LM7806 (+6vdc).
1b. The addition of a 1000mA BuckPuck current regulator.
1c. IF THE BIKE AIN'T MOVIN' - THE HEADLIGHT AIN'T ON.

2: The "Tail Lights" (one word: BATTERIES)
2a. The "Tail Lights" refer to every other light on the bike - and I want to be ABLE to light it up like a christmas tree!
2b. I hate batteries.
2c. Batteries DIE.

3: This thing has TWO POWER SOURCES (unacceptable!).

4: There has GOT to be a way to recharge batteries from the "other" source.
4a. I thought supercapacitors might be the answer...

5: HELP!


Older Update: The comment section contains the instructions for "getting it registered & plated"
Many thanks to all the people who have helped me in this quest.


/# end of updates. (whew!)


ANYWAY, as I was saying:

This bike project started out as a request from my wife:

She has a 4 mile hilly terrain commute to work (and she's very frugal)

We saw a youtube video of a motorized bicycle in action doing 30+ mph and getting 170 mpg.

AND THEN IT HAPPENED...

She said: "Can you build one of those?"

I said: "Hell yes!"

Then she said: "Well then, go ahead and build one for me"

SHE ACTUALLY SAID THAT !!! - I JUST ABOUT DIED FROM SHOCK!

(For the record, I think I have just about the best wife on the planet)

The 1st picture was a current (September, 2012) view of our new "MOPED". *updates forthcoming

1: It's got all the "legal" stuff taken care of... (it's been inspected, registered, plated, and insured)
2: The seat has been repositioned just as low to the ground as possible.
3: The headlight and all of the electronics have been upgraded - (see the schematic).
4: The turn signal/brake/horn switches have been upgraded.
5: The brake lights and turn signals have been upgraded.
6: The fuel filter has been upgraded.
7: The air filter is in the process of being upgraded.

It's DONE, FINISHED, COMPLETED, etc, etc, etc...

WHOA! STOP! WAIT !?!?!

I've come to the realization that: THIS IS A NEVER ENDING PROJECT !!!!!

(run away! run away!)

Phew!

The 2nd (or is that the 10th?) picture is how it looked right out of the box around May, 2011 (*some assembly required)

The 3rd picture was a recent (March, 2012) view of how far it had come over the last year or so that I've been working on it.
- A very upgraded version from before the "long, cold, winter of 2011 - that never happened in Minnesota"

It has come a long way since then!

(updates to this site are forthcoming - REALLY!)
I just need to take more pictures, measurements, figure out a way to dis-mount the tail-light structure from the seat, add running-lights, and hopefully design a rear frame-cage that can support the new tail-lights and baskets or saddlebags.
NO BIGGIE!

The rest is, well: A (very) detailed log of my work in progress...

Buy the ticket, take the ride...

(I hope you enjoy the trip!)

Step 2: Stripping/Chopping

As you can see in the photos, my original intent was to make a "V-Line Slash Cut" on the bottom of the frame parallel to the ground @ .375" above the chain wheel (plus and minus the .25" for the mount itself) .
It's hard to explain, but I think the pictures do a pretty good job of that. (see pic #3)
Then bend the forward frame to meet the "forward end" of the motor mount - to be welded later.

After the cuts were made and it was bent into shape, I decided that it didn't look quite sturdy enough.

So I drew up the plans for a 1/4" steel motor mount assembly in autocad, cut it out on the laser at work, and had a couple of the boys there weld it all together for me.

(again, I'm one lucky guy!)

Step 3: Test Assembly #1

Here's just the basics: just to test the alignment.

Step 4: Sprockets - and the Battle

Here's the project with the soon to be gone "Rag Joint" sprocket on the LEFT rear side of the bike.

This method of attaching a sprocket to a wheel is at best problematic... I could NOT get it trued.
I took it for a test "pedal" drive after I had it all put together, and it threw off the motor chain after about 10 feet...
It was really that far out of alignment...
I'm really glad the motor wasn't running...

So I bought an HD hub from a reputable dealer in Canada who has been VERY supportive.

(Thanks Terry - you warned me!)

Step 5: Semi-Finals

Here she is - Nearly complete (or so I thought a the time).

24" Huffy Boy's Cranbrook.
Honda GXH50 engine
EZ Q-Matic drive system.

The sprocket pictured here is the still the original "rag-joint" sprocket.

IT"S A GONNER!

The next step is to replace it with an HD hub/sprocket kit that attaches directly to the hub - NOT the spokes (like a rag-joint)

Yes, it requires a total rebuild of your rear wheel (it's called "Re-Lacing")
And, as I found out - the rear forks would have to be widened by 0.50" on each side. (quite a stretch for a 24" bike)
I spent quite a bit of time investigating the local bike shops in my area and found that most of them were pretty leery of the "Dishing" that is required on this type of hub.
Luckily, I found an excellent bike shop in my area did that did for me for around $50.
The "Dishing" required on this type of fat tire hub is quite surprising - and quite an education in itself.
It's worth the extra bux... (please! don't even waste your time with a rag-joint!)

Step 6: Miscalculations

Here's the replacement sprocket.

(sorry I didn't take any pictures of the rag-joint sprocket at this angle - It would have spared me a lot of 'Splainin)

Due to my miscalculations on the "Dish" I asked for when I had the rear wheel rebuilt. (they did an excellent job btw - be careful what you ask for...)

The Stock (read: Chinese) sprocket that came with the kit did not have enough dish to clear the tire.

So, I had to go into "engineering mode"...

I wasn't going to pay another $50 to have the wheel rebuilt AGAIN, so I felt it was my DOODY to fix the problem myself...

So... I drew up a 72 tooth sprocket designed for a #41 chain in autocad...

** .dwg/.dxf files may be coming to a www.interweb site near you soon! - just add water, it makes it's own sauce! Quantities are limited!  So call before midnight tonight and order yours today for the low, low introductory price of...

The bottom line is:

I needed a VARIABLE DISH SPROCKET.

So I made one!

Step 7: Semi Finals Part 2: the New Sprocket

Here's the new 72 tooth, 3-piece, 10 gauge stainless steel sprocket.
Fresh off the laser.

Terry and I decided that a 72 tooth would be the optimal speed vs. power ratio count for the sprocket.
The more teeth you have, the more power (aka:: hill-climbing ability) you have.
(Thanks again, Terry)

I needed a "variable dish" on the sprocket - to get the teeth as far away from the tire as I needed.

A 3+ piece sprocket design came to mind:

1) A Receiver Ring that bolts on to the HD freewheel hub.
2) A tooth ring to handle the chain.
3) A Spacer Ring (or two, or more) that fits between the two...

The Spacer Ring was the "AH HAH!" moment I had...
I could conceivably push the dish of that sprocket out to at least .50" if I needed,
or none at all, and everything in-between. (or even backwards).
I just had to choose the thickness of the spacer ring(s): INSTANT VARIABILTIY!

But, since I was working with 10 Gauge at the time, that's how the prototype was built.

Once I cut out the three parts out of 10 Gauge, and after some quick de-burring and rounding of the teeth - with a little "grinder-art" for effect.

I bolted it all together, and It was good to go....

I Installed the sprocket assembly on the wheel that night and test fit the wheel assembly on the bike in the morning.

I was expecting to have to do some "re-shaping" of the frame, but it turned out that the assembly fit AS-IS!

Step 8: Carburator Settings: Another Battle

I didn't want to do it, but:

A replacement carburator was needed because the stock carb on the Honda GXH50 has a "Set And Forget" type of throttle.

This engine is designed and set up to run at a constant speed ALL DAY LONG!.

The adverts for a GXH50 suggest that this unit can be WORN ON YOUR BACK! (I'm not kidding!) - HD leaf blowers; Brick-Layer Vibrators, and the like...

There was no linkage on that carb that could handle a normal "twist handle" throttle.

SO, I RE-WIRED IT! (arrh arrh arrh!)

A HuaSheng "142F-CC" clone of the Honda carb took care of the linkage problem.

But then, there were other issues:

Once I had installed the new carb, and tried to fire it up for the first time:

I could get the motor started with the choke on, but once I took the choke off - the engine would always die.

The air/fuel mixture screw was poorly manufactured.

The "notch" that a screwdriver blade is supposed to fit was so poorly manufactured that it was just barely a scratch on the surface of the brass screwhead.

A Dremel cutting wheel solved that problem.

I'd been told that the correct setting for that screw is supposed to be 3 turns up from zero.

[WRONG]

After a trip to a local small engine repair shop (backlogged as they are this time of year).

He didn't even want to look at it due to it's Chinese modifications, but suggested that "TOO MUCH AIR" was my problem.

So I removed the HuaSheng carb from the engine and COMPARED It to the original Honda carb...

On the Honda carb, I could clearly see the tip of the needle valve sticking out of it's hole from the inside.

It became obvious... Three turns out from zero was WAY over the limit.

The Bottom line:

Just over one half of a turn out from zero (on THIS particular carb* [caveat emptor]) solved the problem!!!!

* Your mileage may vary, check your local listings for news and official information.

Step 9: Layback Seat Modification

Here's the newest modification of the original seat-post.

RIGHT DOWN ON BARE METAL!

The last version turned out to be too high for my diminutive wife.

That style is known as a "LayBack" seat-post.

Intended for "vertically challenged" individuals.

But, It was still too "tall" for her, so I had to make some modifications.

I abandoned the original "LayBack" seat post design..

If I was going to lower the seat, it would have to be right down to the bare metal frame.

So that's what I did...

These pictures should 'splain it all..

It now measures 28.5" from the center of the seat to the ground - Good Gawd I hope that's short enough!!!

[more to follow]

Step 10: Spring 2012

Winter 2011/2012 - such as it was, is over...

The squeaky, melting rubber caliper brakes have been replaced by drum brakes with a dynamo.

The "new" springer front fork came from a little "dumpster diving" - The difference in the way it rides now is AMAZING!

It now has everything required by law to be "road-worthy":

Mirrors & Reflectors,
Front & Rear Brakes,
Front & Rear Lights,
Brake Lights,
Turn Signals.

(Brake lights & turn signals on a BICYCLE?  - gimme a break!!!)

But wait!  There's more!

Now that the powers that be, in their infinite wisdom, as of 2012 have re-classified the "Motorized Bicycle" as a MOPED:
It suddenly needs to be registered, plated, and insured - not the case when I started this project in the spring of 2011.

I'm fighting an up-hill battle to get it on the road "legally".

But, they flat-out refuse to deal with the "homebuilt" issue: by citing their federal MSO requirements.
(apparently, if it did not come from a "factory", it can not exist to them)

Henry Ford is rolling in his grave!

I have been tipped to a little known class in my state's statutes:  "Specially Constructed Vehicles"
putting it in the came class as Choppers, reconstructions, street-rods, and all other "non-factory" modified
vehicles.

Currently, I am pursuing that avenue...


Stay tooned to this channel for nooz and official disinformation...


<p>I know it's been a while, but she's finally getting a new engine!</p><p>I'm planning on posting all the necessary steps for an engine replacement.</p><p>stay bat-tuned to this bat-channel for all the latest bat-updates!</p><p>(ok, maybe that was a little bit &quot;over the top&quot;)</p><p>I'll be posting again soon... really!</p>
<strong>GOOD NEWS!</strong><br> <br> <em><strong>I HAVE A LICENSE PLATE!!!!</strong></em><br> <br> I went to the inspection site early this morning - armed with what I thought were the correct forms.<br> <br> After waiting in line for 3 hours, I got the bike (oops, MOPED) inspected.<br> <br> <strong>IT FAILED BECAUSE OF NO V.I.N.</strong><br> <br> At least THIS guy knew what I needed to do:<br> Go BACK to the DMV;<br> Fill out a &quot;Statement of Facts&quot; form;<br> Apply for a TITLE;<br> Supply 4-view PICTURES;<br> PAY the tax.<br> <br> I went back to the DMV - who needed to call their &quot;help desk&quot; (and I use that term very loosely)<br> <br> The &quot;help desk&quot; guy told her that MOPEDs don't get registered/plated.<br> <br> I showed her the documentation that I printed out from the DMV website that contradicted what she was just told.<br> <br> She told that to the guy at the &quot;help desk&quot; what I had - so he had to go talk to his supervisor.<br> <br> When he came back he said something like:&nbsp; &quot;Golly gee - I guess you do!&quot;<br> <br> Then she asked what the procedure was for doing that...<br> <br> He had to go talk to his supervisor again.<br> <br> It turned out that she had to do EXACTLY WHAT THE INSPECTOR SAID TO DO.<br> <br> I walked out of there with a plate in my hands.<br> <br> I'll be receiving a letter from the DMV letting me know when I can schedule an appointment to go BACK TO THE INSPECTOR to have HIM weld my new &quot;V.I.N. PLATE&quot; onto my bike (oops, MOPED).<br> <br> Wotta nightmare!<br> <br> At least my wife doesn't need to worry about getting pulled over now.<br> (phew!)
<p>Good Gawd! Another Warning!</p><p>It seems that the &quot;Low Oil Safety Shut-off&quot; feature on a Honda GHX50 is ummm..</p><p>&quot;unreliable&quot;?</p><p>That's right folks... She seized up on me...</p><p>It let me start it - I got about 20 feet, then it died... I started it again: same thing.</p><p>I started it for a 3rd time, and it went fine for about 2 miles, Then it started to lose power until it killed again. </p><p>I peddled it to the nearest gas station to put oil in it, but it was too late, the pull-start felt REALLY stiff - bad, bad, bad!!!</p><p>In retrospect: (duh) I should have paid attention to it (duh) after the 1st kill... (duh)</p><p>She's gettin' a new engine in the spring.</p>
<p>yea gov't employees change the rules so much everyone that works in a gov't job are confused </p>
<p>My &quot;Problem Child&quot; is on the cusp of being fixed! (until the next problem arises, that is...)</p><p>Stay tuned... etc, etc, etc...</p>
<p>I feel your pain. I made one of these years before I found Instructables. I ran into the same DMV issues here in New York. Had to find out from a police officer that was very nice about the whole thing. I was getting 170 mpg going full throttle for about 7-8 miles somewhat hilly terrain. I ended up upgrading to a full motorcycle &amp; trading the bike with a friend that lives in another state that does not have the same law issues. I had plenty of upgrades to the bike, such as alloy wheels which had simple bolt on for the disk brake, &amp; sprocket. I would love to build another from the ground up if I ever have enough expendable income.</p>
I need to what the gas mixture ratio is for both a two and four stroke motorized bicycle
<p>For two-stroke engines: you would have to check with the engine manufacturer as to their preferred ratio.</p><p>For four-stroke engines: There is none (you don't mix oil with the gasoline) </p>
<p>two stroke id say look to the Italians all they had after ww2 was mopeds turns out that got good at building them</p>
<p>four stroke you ad oil directly to the crankcase by opening the small round plug on the bottom not the one under the engine if its an old engine, if its the newer engine open filler cap on top of motor usually marked oil and sometimes has a dipstick oil level gauge attached to the cap,S.A.E 30 is usually recommended for small engines since its heavy duty oil or you can use all season oil that doesn't break down with varying temperatures as easy as regular oil </p>
<p>a four stroke doesn't need gas oil mixture only a 2 stroke needs oil to gas mix and you have to check with the motor instructions or manufacturer for the proper mix you can also look up online you motor for the fuel mix </p>
<p>wire the dynamo to a battery case that will hold enough rechargeable AA or AAA size batteries to equal 6 or 12 volts when you stop riding the lights will stay on the dynamo will keep the rechargable batteries alive or try in place of batteries a smaller capacitor as an alternative to batteries </p>
<p>The dynamo that I'm using puts out 3-6 VDC @ under 5 MPH, and up to around 36 VAC @ 30 MPH. Without a rectifier/regulator circuit, I would have NiMH batteries exploding on me constantly. I'm still looking for a &quot;smart&quot; circuit to do the job though...</p>
<p>you can run a car alternator which has a rectifier n regulator in it, make a mount for it and have the alternator belt pulley wheel on the front or rear wheel or change the alternator belt pulley to a sprocket and mount the alternator with the drive chain the car alternator has a regulator in it the smallest alternator they make would be plenty </p>
<p> the vin# is the serial# </p>
<p>The VIN is on the blue sticker that came from the DMV. It was required to be installed on the bike by the inspector at the Como vehicle inspection site.</p>
Why is this in the Linux channel? It should be in either the 'outside' or 'living' category
Why the linux channel?<br>I designed this project with open-source software...<br>Eagle CAD... [linux] and DesignSight CAD [linux]<br>I tried to tag it appropriately...<br>(and it has many other tags beside just &quot;linux&quot;)<br>
Uber cool build Bogy. Really beautiful. <br> <br>I wanted to ask why the huge rear sprocket but then you mentioned hills. She must be able to climb a tree with a 72T.
Thanks!<br> I haven't tried to climb any trees with it yet!&nbsp; (rofl)<br> But it CAN accelerate up a pretty steep incline!
If you want a lower seat, look for a 'banana' seat and modify it. My dad did that for me as a kid, and everyone tried to seal it, cause it looked like a chopper, lol.
Thanks, but I've already thought of that... <br>My diminutive wife has very short legs (24&quot; long). <br>She won't ride it because she can't put her heels on the ground. <br>In retrospect, I should have started with a 20&quot; bike - Soooo... it's MY bike now! <br>
great project
Congratulations, it is a great achievement.
I didnt want to do the math when I read this, so Im just going to ask. How much did this cost in total?
It's cost me in the ball-park of $1000 (I really haven't kept track) <br>and I'm sure it would have cost more if I didn't work in a fabrication shop.
wow truly looks like those vintage ones, i have a couple of questions , am sorry if these questions sound really retarded, is it a single speed bike , if its single speed why is the hind sprocket so big ,// if it was lil smaller wouldnt it make the bike faster , big sprockets , arent they for more torque, yea if the engine u use produce less torque then the big sprocket is to get the bike moving i guess, engine looks powerful though
Thank you. <br>Yes, it's a single speed, and the big sprocket is for POWER (a.k.a. hill climbing ability) <br>The engine is at the maximum legal size for my region, as is its 30 MPH top speed.
did you have to pay to get it registered? if so you just found out why it had to be registered in the first place,so somebody else could make money off of your great idea! lol. i sooo need to learn to weld. :)
The right way <br>
This looks amazing, I can't say anything else except that you've inspired me to want to build one. I bet your wife is happy!
Nice man! I need to do this I have only done a weeder bike and one chain saw engine for a mini chopper that I built.
did you do anything differently with the brakes or just used the original bike brakes? also, are bike tires made to go that fast?
Love it, i tried doing this and the bike worked, but did not look like i wanted it to. i used a pressure washer motor and a lawnmower belt connected to a go cart pully and another smaller bike rim welded onto the actual rim. this one looks exactly like what i wanted mine to look like though.
Are you sure it has to be registered and insured? I know in my area, it only needs insurance and registration if its 50cc and OVER. Under that, it doesn't have to be, however, you aren't really supposed to ride it on the road, but I have a motorized bike (Its 150cc), a 33cc scooter and minibikes galore and I have rode past cops on all of them on the road and none have given a hoot. I would stop trying to get it registered, let that be the end of it and ride it as I wanted to, where I wanted to, because in the 1 in a million chance a cop actually pulls you over, you are either going to sweet talk your way out of it (I didn't know, its under 50cc so I don't need such and such paperwork) or you get a $50 fine and I could handle a $50 ticket once, but I have been riding stuff on roads for many years and it has never even happened.<br><br>Good looking bike though! You did a great job on it!
Yes, I'm sure.<br><br>I went to the DMV today.<br><br>Apparently, I knew more on the subject than they did!<br><br>We came to the conclusion that I have to fill out an &quot;AFFIDADIT OF RECONSTRUCTION/SPECIAL ASSEMBLY (page 2); <br>Bring THAT to the inspector (along with a full set of pictures); <br>Pass the inspection; <br>Bring HIS form back to the DMV.<br>THEN I can apply for MOPED plates.<br><br>At least now I have a plan!<br><br>But thank you for your support (grin)<br><br>Bogyman57
HAHA! Well good to see you doing everything by the book and actually being able to get it done!
We'll see...<br><br>I have to get my butt out of bed at 7am to be at the inspection site by 8.<br><br>I haven't been up before NOON in TEN YEARS!!! (I work 2nd shift)<br><br>I'm not looking forward to the experience.<br><br>Is the &quot;day-star&quot; even out at that time of day???? (grin)
In the summer where I live it is, its usually up by 5am here and won't go away until around 11pm! Good luck with the inspection! :D
Get a moped frame off ebay with a bill of sale &lt;$20. Cut the front fork tube off the frame that has the serial number on it. Weld it to any spot on the bike. Use the bill of sale and register the moped as an assembled vehicle.
It's awesome man, but shouldn't the exhaust be longer? Your woman will inhale all the freaking fumes
Shhhhhhh!!!! You'll spoil my plan!<br><br>But seriously, unless it's running in the garage, there's plenty of ventilation - especially when it's moving. The only time the engine is running and the bike (oops, MOPED) is not moving while outside is at a stop light - and stop lights are usually very windy places.<br><br>Bogyman57
Im loving this project already and I've only read your first page. Hilarious.
Aww Shucks...<br><br>Thanks! (I think...)<br>
I'm not familiar with the rag joint you refer to in connection with the sprocket. please clarify.
Thanks for asking!<br><br>A &quot;rag joint&quot; is a cheap method of attaching your sprocket to your bicycle wheel.<br><br>The &quot;rags&quot; are usually made from of old car tires and are sandwiched in between internal and external clamps (which attach to the sprocket) - the bicycle spokes themselves are inside of THAT sandwich.<br><br>In other words - it attaches your sprocket to the SPOKES, not the hub.<br><br>(I hope that made some sense)<br><br>Bogyman57
Wanderful project, the kid's dream. <br><br>But, is not it a little weak that bike frame for a 50 cc engine?
Thanks!<br><br>But this is NOT for kids - it does 30 mph and climbs hills like nobody's business.<br><br>It's intended for street use (it's no dirt-bike!)<br><br>The frame has been reinforced, plus the addition of the motor mount and lower frame brace makes it quite a bit stronger than the original Huffy.
&quot;The kid's dream&quot; is a literal translation of a saying in Argentina: &quot;el sue&ntilde;o del pibe&quot;. It does not mean the bike be for kids, but it is a dreamed and desired thing.<br><br>Glad to know that you reinforced the frame! This is a very good work, congratulations.
Woww thats Crazy! Im going to have to take a closer look at this! :D

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