NES in a Cartridge

NES in a Cartridge

    Have your ever seen any of "Ben Hecks" portable console builds? Well if you haven't, he often uses these Chinese Famicom clone consoles. These cloned consoles are often times refered to as NOAC's, meaning NES On A Chip. They are called this because they are a fully functional Nintendo Entertainment System literally on one chip. The best part about the NOAC is that they include a 60 pin famicom game port, which in our case can easily be converted over to a 72 pin NES game port.
    
     I originally got this idea from Kotomi (link below), and figured i would try to do the same thing. My plan was to use the original NES controllers, instead of the cheap super joy ones, which is what i believe Kotomi used. Kotomi's system also incorporated the original Famicom connector instead of the NES connector. In order to use the NES controllers, I would have to convert the NES controller's shift register data into the NOAC's controller chips. So... what better way to do it than with an Arduino!!!!
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Step 1Materials

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One of the toughest things to find is the Chinese Power player unit (or Super joy thingy), which ever system you find, they all should work about the same. I was lucky enough to find mine at good will for 6 bucks... can't beat that. Any ways, if you can't find one locally then check on ebay. The only problem is that if you buy one off ebay then it will run you around 20 bucks. All the rest of the stuff you can get either from Radioshack, or once again on ebay. In my case I bought the 72 pin connector and the ports separate, however you would probably be better off just buying a broken NES. My only problem was that I was kinda pressed for time, and couldn't find one FOR CHEAP!!!!

1. Power Player Unit (or similar)
2. NES 72 pin connector
3. 2 NES controller ports
4. An NES game that will serve as the case
5. An atmega168 (arduino chip)
6. Texas Instrument TLC5940 (you can get these as samples from their site... their free)
7. Some basic parts such as switches, leds, along with a 7805 voltage regulator
8. PCB making stuff (I used the toner transfer method)
9. Basic knowledge of soldering and electronics
10. And most definitely a dremel tool with some bits and cut off discs
11. A multimeter is probably a good idea as well, because you will need it for troubleshooting
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Mar 21, 2011. 2:04 PMMatrix-technician says:
Very cool, but i agree with spweasel. While this is somthing that looks neat, I'm not sure it could all be fit in an NES cartridge. As far as execution goes you could maybe document it in more detail with more pictures of the actual circuits and such. Great effort and an amazing idea though. 4*
Mar 21, 2011. 2:46 PMspweasel says:
Actually, I'm thinking we may be arguing opposite things. I don't doubt that you can fit the entire NOAC inside an NES cartridge with enough work.

What I'm unsure of is whether you really need much electronics knowledge to pull it off. Many NOACs (you can find them easily enough on Amazon, eBay, or similar) already have US controller ports and a 72-pin connector. So while you might need some creativity to do something with the controller ports, everything else shouldn't require much work to get inside.

Of course, you might want to replace the connector they use anyways, since they are infamous for being impossible to insert/remove games without damaging the plastic.
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Jan 19, 2012. 9:06 AMnerys says:
Which NOAC is that your using? link?
Mar 28, 2011. 11:33 AMMatrix-technician says:
Agreed. I am quite sure anyone could pull this off if they had basic soldering skills and almost no knowledge of electronics. This project is mostly made up of fabrication,"the case" ,and soldering,"the electronics".
Mar 24, 2011. 3:13 PMwillrandship says:
Also, there are plenty of NES portables, meaning + Screen and batteries, even smaller than this one, at benheck.com. You could fit one of these in an N64 cart if you tried hard enough, and didn't use the original connector.
Mar 25, 2011. 5:24 AMARIrish says:
This is great, but isn't the game slot likely to get even more dusty and jammed up than it was on the original console? I mean that thing is just baring itself to the elements, right there.

Still though, I'd love one of these. Next step: a SNES inside a SNES cartridge...
Mar 26, 2011. 4:22 AMTheWaddleWaaddle says:
Or even better...a PS3 in a PS3 cartridge. XP

-TheWaddleWaaddle
Aug 28, 2011. 3:06 PMsuperduperdrew says:
PS3 cartridge?
Apr 13, 2011. 4:37 PMjake walker says:
haha, that would be intense
Apr 20, 2011. 8:14 PMjwoo2023 says:
screen is hologram!
Apr 20, 2011. 8:13 PMjwoo2023 says:
even better a 3DS in a lego brick!
May 3, 2011. 6:48 PMThe nerdling says:
lol
Mar 25, 2011. 6:21 AMSpokehedz says:
The thing that failed on the OG NES was the connector because you had to load it like the VCR's of the day. It was this movement that lead to many of the OG NES failing.

The top-loader NES was released near the end of the console's life, and it uses almost the exact same connector as this one does here--and it works better than any OG NES ever.

I suspect that having access to the terminals will make cleaning easier.
Mar 25, 2011. 7:44 AMARIrish says:
Cleaning will be easier, certainly, but the connectors are directly open to the air, so all sorts of rubbish can get in there, meaning cleaning will be more necessary. The top-loading model has a plastic... what would you call that, 'trapdoor' mechanism, meaning when there's no game in it, it's covered up.
Aug 3, 2011. 9:05 PMzombeastly says:
the cartridge is suppose to go in to the nes not the other way around!!!!
OH THE IRONYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jul 20, 2011. 2:00 PMtpellegrin says:
where can i buy a pcb?
Jul 1, 2011. 11:32 PMnonekiller says:
can i use a tennsy board instead of a arduino?
Jun 11, 2011. 8:36 PMFLINT235 says:
GREAT PROJECT!! This mod is more better than the original NES.
Apr 14, 2011. 4:05 AMjordanwade says:
sorry but im having trouble understanding what your taking off?
Apr 12, 2011. 2:05 PMskittlespider says:
Wow, this is impressive. I've always wondered if the Nintendo Cards could fit inside a game cartridge. I guess my question is officially answered.

I wonder exactly how small one of these Nintendo Card systems could get?
Apr 12, 2011. 12:14 PMAir_Assassin says:
Darn I used to have one but it broke. :(
Apr 4, 2011. 8:24 PMsillyzombie666 says:
so you know a better alternative to using that style 72 pin connector is to either get one from a game genie or they sell a converter that lets you play nes games on a famicom, so you could just take the top off of it
Mar 26, 2011. 7:51 PMchicopluma says:
hahahaha
that looks sooooo weird
Mar 20, 2011. 8:36 PMarpoky says:
How the heck did you get this? I heard some bad stuff about these clones.
Oh look, it's an NES game clone with a SEGA Dreamcast Controller! I hear these things are illegal because they steal Copyrighted Nintendo Games.
Mar 25, 2011. 5:16 AMKarateLover21 says:
I don't think so. You aren't allowed to patent illegal things, and nintendo patented a NES emulator. What about the FC3? http://gizmodo.com/#!5098589/yobo-fc3-plus-plays-nes-snes-and-genesis-cartridges

Mar 20, 2011. 8:52 PMWhatULive4 says:
www.digitpress.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-39691.html

Yep, people have gone to jail for selling them.
Mar 21, 2011. 2:59 PMironsmiter says:
yep... their manufacture and import are illegal.

Buying them from a second hand store?
Sure, nintendo doesn''t like it... but it's a better use for them than the landfill.

And until nintendo does something like what we got with the Atari flashback...
we'll just have to keep using the NOAC clones.

Of course that would probably cut into their Wii digital download income, so not likely to happen.
Mar 21, 2011. 3:24 PMspweasel says:
Actually, so long as they don't infringe copyright (by including games) or trademark (by claiming to be an NES or including a Nintendo mascot), they should be legal - the patents on the NES expired a long time ago.

While this one's a little fishy since it might infringe on the Dreamcast's patents, many of them are perfectly fine. Quick research suggests that even those with "NES" on the box generally fall under the Fair Use exception since they are using it to describe what games it plays.
Mar 24, 2011. 4:23 PMKasm279 says:
I have one of these things in an ugly N64 lookalike with the 60-pin(?) Famicom connector right on the bottom. Really annoying because you hit the connector with your hands and the plastic around it is kinda sharp.
Mar 24, 2011. 9:33 AMRickO5 says:
These clones usually include a few dozen games built in, that are direct NES game clones, hence the illegality. by building a project like this though, you remove the built in games, there by making it "pretty much" legal.
Mar 24, 2011. 3:10 PMwillrandship says:
With these, I fail to see any legality issues, since if you have a games library you therefore already own a NES, and you're using official cratridges. Therefore, as legal as an emulator with legal roms :)
Mar 28, 2011. 9:25 AMdoomsdayltd says:
yea I've seen these things sold in the mall for the longest time
Mar 28, 2011. 3:37 PMwillrandship says:
Any that come with games are technically illegal, but it's not like Nintendo makes any real money off them anymore.
Mar 28, 2011. 4:09 PMRickO5 says:
I have seen a few that have NES hardware with completely original games. These would be legal. Nintendo is making money these days from those games as wii ware and such, but they still wont be knocking down your door I imagine.
Mar 29, 2011. 9:24 PMdoomsdayltd says:
yea how would you like that instead of the dea its nintendo police XD
Mar 25, 2011. 5:14 AMKarateLover21 says:
My favorite instructable I have ever seen. I have always wanted a NES, but I am afraid of buying old consoles because discontinued electronics makes me frustrated. Making a new nes from scratch is great! I am definately making this.
Mar 25, 2011. 12:16 AMDrippingquill says:
This is a super epic project, and you pulled it off beautifully!
Wonderful job!
Thanks for the instructable!
Mar 24, 2011. 4:44 PMmarcward86 says:
I really love how you color coded that circuit board. Fantastic project, by the way.
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