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Rebuild A Carbide Lamp

Rebuild A Carbide Lamp
Carbide lamps have been around since the late 1800's and are still lighting the way in many mines and caves across the world to this day. While the introduction of LED's is changing the scene these wonderful old lamps are still functional, practical and useful. (This isn't a polish them up and make them pretty Instructable but rather a get them working again Instructable. Polishing metal isn't too mysterious if that's what you're after.) 

With a little creativity they can also serve purposes beyond what most flashlights can achieve. There's also just something cool about having a lamp that makes it;s own fuel via a chemical reaction. There are a lot of these old lamps to be had and many that may look down for the count can be resurrected with a relatively small amount of time and effort. 

If you are looking for a lamp, there is a good article at Caves.org. I do think they are a little prone to writing off usable lamps as throwaways or bad equipment when some many can be repaired or tweaked a little and used just fine.  www.caves.org/member/mfraley/buying2.htm These are not complex machines once you understand them but they can be finicky and they do burn acetylene. So, be careful. 

I like old Auto Lights and Guys Dropper lamps but there are a lot of types to choose from. The only things I really avoid are lamps with plastic parts and Butterfly/Safesport or Minex brand lamps. Though, the Mike Light is a thoroughly modern lamp made from plastic and it seems to work well. Really popular with the Amish of all people. Good endorsement though. Those guys like their stuff to work. In the end it's all personal preference and even a bad lamp can be good for parts or tweaked and upgraded into something worthy. 

This Instructable will be updated soon as it turned out to be a bit more complex than I had originally planned. I've tried to note where certain things will be added or amended soon but please let me know if something is unclear or confusing so I can answer your questions or adjust the Instructable.  
 
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Step 1General Disasembly

General Disasembly
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 Taking apart an old carbide lamp requires some degree of finesse. They are usually brass and therefore bend and break easily but within a certain range of care they'll last indefinitely. So be careful and don't get heavy handed. 

Most parts should come free with just your hands or very gentle use of tools. Using something like pliers or a multi-tool is probably going to mar or score the metal. Avoid that and use small adjustable wrenches or box end wrenches. You can also use screwdrivers on some things once you get a feel for what you are doing. 

Just look at your lamp and note where it comes apart. A wing nut on the reflector, finger tight cap on the striker, small retaining nuts here and there and a base shaped for hands to grip and turn. Easy enough. 

You may have to deal with corrosion as well. Don't use a wire brush, it'll scratch up our lamp. Try soaking it in some white vinegar or maybe just running it under hot water. It shouldn't be too bad. 

Note, the bottom of the lamp will most likely contain residue that has oxidized into calcium carbonate. Harmless and good for your lawn. It might also still contain volatile calcium hydroxide, aka, caustic lime. This can cause serious chemical burns. Be careful. If you think the lamp has been operated very recently avoid getting the powdery residue on your skin. This is probably unlikely with anything you will obtain from eBay or an antique shop but chemical burns are really annoying so be careful. Once the residue has had some time to oxidize it becomes harmless enough to dump on your garden and actually do some good. 
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24 comments
Feb 23, 2011. 5:48 PMpfred2 says:
My grandfather was from coal mining country we used to have loads of these things. You do know that the old timers used to spit into them to generate the gas right?
Feb 19, 2011. 2:21 AMnutsandbolts_64 says:
(Last pic) Haha, don't sneeze! And yeah they are bright... I guess I'll settle for Carbon Arc Lamps since calcium carbide is a bit off my league.
Nov 4, 2010. 10:48 AMxrickje says:
things we do in holland with acythelene gas (carbide+ water)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kk5YUQPNkEw 3300 L of acytelene gas...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jYrrMU7s_c
way more fun :)
Nov 4, 2010. 1:18 PMxrickje says:
idd, ga het dit jaar ook zelf doen, maar dan gewoon met een melkbus
(gonna do it myself this year, but with a normal "milk can")
Oct 30, 2010. 10:17 PMdeathbotkilroy says:
I just got one of these awesome little guys at work today. I knew that it was some kind of lamp but what a treasure!!!! I had no idea it was so cool a device.. now to get it working........
Aug 9, 2010. 11:53 PMDarwinfish says:
Cool stuff. This could be a very good addition to some kind of sculpture, or on a car... I imagine it would need some sort of shield on it, but the epic nature of a machine that creates light with little acetylene fires would be more than worth the tinkering. :-)
Jun 19, 2010. 2:47 AMthelandlord says:
It's easy to produce oxygen too - I wonder what the potential might be for a bit of small-scale 'survival' welding using easy to obtain feedstocks and no mains electricity or commercially-produced gases? I can feel a project coming on...
Jun 22, 2010. 2:35 AMthelandlord says:
By far the easiest way without access to a store of chemicals would be to let nature do the work - a bathtub full of plants with a slack polythene 'bubble' over the top would collect oxygen given off by the plants, you could see how your harvest was doing by seeing the 'bubble' inflate. If the 'bubble' was gaffer-taped around the edges of your bathtub you could apply enough pressure to force it out of a jet by simply resting some weight across the top of the bubble. Something as rough as this isn't going to have a high duty-cycle - you won't be able to run for long before you need to let it rest a day or two to replenish, and the oxygen isn't going to be very pure either... but it should be good enough to neutralise the otherwise carburising flame from acetylene and make it possible to braze cleanly with it at very least - and once made it's completely independent of any outside feedstock. One furhter thought for anybody considering an experiment along these lines - acetylene safety... it's 'very' unstable if you attempt to store it under pressure and it will kill you if you let it... unless you you know what you're doing with it, Darwin will get you sooner or later... commercial acetylene is usually stored dissolved in something more stable like acetone to make it easier to handle. The Wikipedia page is well worth reading to see what else you can do with acetylene too... it's the basis of all manner of potentially-useful stuff. :-) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetylene
Jun 19, 2010. 6:34 AMSureShot says:
My Grandpa has on of these old things just sitting on a shelf in his garage. I'm gonna have to rebuild it for him. Thanks for the info!
Jun 18, 2010. 1:18 PMkill-a-watt says:
Nice. I have not fooled with mine since effective LED lamps became popular. My flame tip is a press-in. I got it to fit on my screw style lamp with some soft solder. I don't have a local source for the calcium carbide nowadays. Online order will require an extra hazmat fee. For a tip cleaner, we always just got a two inch length of lamp cord and cut through the insulation only about half an inch. This would free up a bundle of thin copper strands useful for tip cleaning. Make several. Remember not to venture underground without three working independent light sources and a few buddies to stick with at all times.
Jun 18, 2010. 1:56 PMj626no says:
nice job. to help you out next time though, your vernier caliper has an ID gauge on the backside of the OD gauge. there is also a depth gauge usually on the other end of the caliper. (perhaps you knew this, but if you didn't, i;'m sure it will help you out in the future).
Jun 17, 2010. 10:01 AMPunkguyta says:
thats that giant little zippo, the silver one? how much is it?
Jun 18, 2010. 6:16 AMPunkguyta says:
why couldn't you use that as a lighter? Look at the flame on that other one!
Jun 18, 2010. 10:23 AMPunkguyta says:
Fair enough, I was not aware that they produced acetylene aswell!
Jun 17, 2010. 9:20 AMchuckr44 says:
Neat. I like certain old-time stuff. What type of fumes do these put out? Is it safe to use indoors for, say, 4 hours at a time?

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