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1 planer, 1 mitre saw, 140 4"x4" Treated Fence Posts
13,000 cuts, sand, stain, sealer, wallah!!!!!!

Step 1: Cure the wood

Picture of cure the wood
very simple but completely monotonous.
1. first I let the wood dry and cure for a number of weeks.
 
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doreenn4 months ago

I'm really hoping you are still on here! What do you think about using old hand sewn beams (I think that's what they call them! Lol). I believe the slices would be larger and I know of a few reuse places around me where I could buy them. Do you think that would be more economical then conventional hardwood flooring? I'm thinking it would definitely be faster but would I need to add any steps that you haven't listed? Also, do you think there is a way to "dip" the slices into a solution to coat them in order to get better protection and perhaps a better moisture barrier? I'm not sure what I would dip them in but I'm just thinking it might be necessary due to the wood choice as well as perhaps make for a faster process altogether. If you could, let me know what you think. I have two rooms I really need to get to that were ripped up due to plumbing issue and I'd love to do something like this. Oh, one very important last issue. If the sub flooring that is down there right now is plywood, could I (or should I) nail instead of glue? Thanks very much and really hoping to get a response from you!

joelsprayberry (author)  doreenn4 months ago
doreenn, i would recommend a thin subfloor and doing a tongue and groove on your planks. the old hand sewn wood would look so good as long as it doesn't buckle or warp. the tongue and groove helps with that.
hardwoodchamp8 months ago

This is super awesome!

vbaziuk3 years ago
I love this, believe me I do. I have a question though.. I was once told that the reason materials made for outdoors (especially wood) shouldn't be used indoors because of the different standards for treating the wood to be outdoor weather proof and in an environment where there is ventilation. Learning of this quashed all of my ideas of using outdoor products inside. Have you looked in to what your floor might be releasing into your indoor air? Might be worth some investigation. It really does look great though!! Nice work!
wecanclean5 years ago
Q; I'm not sure I can see in the pic, but is the left side of the room done in a "pattern" & the right side done "random"? If you tested patterns, did you like the "random" or the "pattern" better? This is the cats MEOW! Love it. I hope your floor brings you many years of beauty!
canida5 years ago
Wow, this looks excellent!  Like a parquet floor, but better.
I feel dumb for asking but how do you prep the concrete,? Did you just remove all things off the concrete ? Or did you have to place chemicals to prep it ?
sanded, bleached, cleaned, glued~
It's better to have extra rather than needing some more :)
snarke9 years ago
There's no point to using pressure-treated wood anyway. Those slots on the outside are where spikes are used to push the preservative into the wood. It only penetrates about 1cm into the wood. So as soon as you slice the end off, you expose the middle, which isn't treated. (See http://www.durable-wood.com/treated/choosing.php)

So you might as well pick something cheaper. I'll agree that an end-grain floor is going to be way more durable than the usual plank-style floor, although a heck of a lot more work to install. Yikes.

good call snarke - I love this project, but you're right about the treated wood being an unnecessary cost unless you were going to use this outside for decking that rests on the ground or something. If you used a polyurethane coating, I wouldn't imagine that the arsenic would be a problem. They still use exposed treated wood to build decks, but I think covered is ok.
Asmodeo6 years ago
The nicest floor I have seen.Ever. My dining room's floor is "in the row", and I think I could borrow your idea. Thanks a lot!
paappraiser7 years ago
Did you figure out a cost per square foot?
ask4rew7 years ago
Sorry I couldn't tell because it was upside down - but now I see it ;) - Colorado can be recognized at any angle, although some folks mix us up with Wyoming...
ask4rew7 years ago
nice tattoo what is it?
texas
nothingmuch9 years ago
My aunt's husband is a rennovational architect, and he told me horror stories about wooden floors - if you don't leave enough gaps, and the floor was set while the wood was dry, but then the humidity rises, sometimes the floor will bulge up even several meters. The moral of that story is to leave gaps - both between the tiles and between the floor and the wall.
The trick is the same with store bought wood flooring materials, you have to allow it to climatize to the location you are going to be installing it in, plus leave the gap around the outside perimeter for exspansion.
Manufacturers of wood roof trusses usually have heaps of offcut pieces of 2x4 and 2x3 lumber, which they would probably be more than happy to part with, for very little or no cost. These could be used to make neat patterns on your floor or other project. Bonus: the offcuts are usually about one or two feet long, so they are easy to fit into a car trunk, bicycle rack, shopping cart, or whatever mode of conveyance you choose. Building supply places seem to be much more truck oriented in their product length. Also, they have the annoying habit of wanting large sums of money from you.
great idea packrat~
inquisitive7 years ago
Beautiful project-the design layout possibilities have my mind racing-I think using the endcuts like this for a table and a glass top would be so cool. Great another "Instructable Insomniac" in the making---thinking of applications and schematics-LOL Thanks so much for this! PS over a year later now-any issues from expansion/contraction?
egreen7678 years ago
very cool
luc90109 years ago
Sweet floor...how much did it end up costing per square foot?
Code1289 years ago
Pressure treated Fence posts are definitely not something you want in your house at all. This wood has been banned for use in playgrounds and other areas where people are. Great idea but use some other wood.
snarke Code1289 years ago
Um, not banned. The only danger is if kids chew on the wood, or if you breathe the sawdust, or chop food directly on it, or something like that. Other than that, it's very safe; the treatment stays in the wood. Also, in Step 3 above, joelsprayberry should have said "arsenic poisoning," since it's arsenic compounds, not strychnine, that were used to treat the wood. I use the word "were" because the industry voluntarily phased out chromated copper arsenate (CCA) as a treatment in 2004. Now it's almost all treated with a copper-based compound that's not toxic, but more corrosive.
bugcam9 years ago
WOW! Spectacular. Aaargh! I love it so-o much I think my naughty parts are tingling! Holy cow, is that cool. Did you say what the square footage was and how long it took to do approx., a)cut b)lay down c)etc...
tagyerit9 years ago
It looks great. What a lot of work! But I'm wondering why you didn't use untreated wood. It should be cheaper and usually comes in a bit dryer. Also, I was wondering if there was a particular reason you started at 5/8". A thicker floor would presumably last through more refinishing jobs. Of course that would add to the cost.
kqrpnb9 years ago
Excellent project! I almost<i/> did the same thing, but into a butcherblock table. I had a really nice piece of 4x4 Ash... that was pretty stuff. Alas, I am ofttimes too lazy!
kqrpnb9 years ago
Ha ha! More projects on what to do with the left overs from step 6 when we mis-calculate from step 3!
kqrpnb9 years ago
Another ancillary project?
kqrpnb9 years ago
You can probably use math a little earlier in the process to determine how many you will need (length x width) and save yourself some cuts from step 3...
kqrpnb9 years ago
How about a projet on 'setting up a sliding template using paint rollers'? Then you can link that to this and use the 'idea' tag on it to let others use it in their projects. Very nice project btw.
joelsprayberry (author) 9 years ago
to answer a few of the above questions: no arsenic probs in the house, it is the new style. the cost: if you add in the materials plus the tools was around .25/sq ft that obviously doesn't include man-hours. soft vs hard, good point. but the end of the greain is much stronger than the side. i haven't had any problems with sliding chairs or my wife walking in high heels on the floor at all. if i coud have afforded 8x8 redwood, that would have been my top choice. enjoy~
Temo Vryce9 years ago
THe fact that he's stained the floor and then added 3 or 4 coats of sealer to the floor, means that you would be hardpressed to get an chemicals out of the wood. 3 to 4 coats is about as air tight as you're going to get. This is a really cool project and It gives me ideas for our new house. I'm planning on building myself a computer room in the basement and this would be an awesome floor.
batzel9 years ago
Aren't these posts typically pine? That'd most likely be a 'softwood' floor, then.
mikesty9 years ago
D.I.Y. to the max! floors :D
lantera9 years ago
The new pressure treated stuff isn't a problem. The old formula (phased out in ~2003) used arsenic as part of the perservative. This has been replaced with a copper based formula which isn't toxic to humans (compared to the old stuff), but is very corrosive to metal fasteners. Still don't want to eat off it or snort the sawdust, but it is completely safe for skin contact.
billz2609 years ago
Can we get a more wide shot of what the floor pattern looks like? Thanks, cool idea...
heltones9 years ago
It looks great. You have a lot more patience than the average homeowner. :) hugedom does however make a good point. I probably wouldn't let a baby crawl around on it or a dog/cat/self take a nap on it either. Have you noticed any smell to the room when walking in after it has been closed up for a few hours? Just curious. I don't know if the sealer locks in that stuff at all. Polyeurethane might...but they again, you have to deal with its offgassing... Maybe beanwaur's acrylic would work, but might scratch? Nonetheless, it looks really cool. I'm just freaked out by chemicals.
keimel9 years ago
I've seen a similar thing done with 2x4 but left loose in the mud room. Periodically they could shovel up all the wood pieces, clean up the floor real well and wash teh blocks, then reassemble. Very good for a mud room.
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