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the key, cluster, and ecu are all interconnected, it's called an immobilizer. have you tried to change the fuel filter? you'll need to prime the system again, but inability to rev in a diesel is fuel limited, there may be other problems as well, but again it's not the swap that would have caused the issue. might try sending me a message instead of posting it on the discussion, since it's no longer a problem with the transmission swap.
we purchased a body damaged tdi 5sp complete for the swap (drivable complete motor and trany swap 2002 ,190 Kms,our 03 wagon (tdi auto) now lack of power at 1800 sputters ,and a hard time to get to 100 kms per hr ,we changed the etc or ecu from the damaged car and put it in the wagon but it starts and shuts off instantly,put the old one back in and it runs again ! MAYBE should I try the wrecked cars ecm AND the wrecked cars CLUSTER (gauges) ???
we cut the cat out on the exhaust, no change , changed the turbo last nite, no change very frus
did you ever figure it out our 03 has a very similar problem
the car starts up great,at 1800 rpm,its like a misfire,flutter,sputter,I don't no what to call it,unplug the maf(I tried 3 ),then it has a bit more power.took it to 3 tecks,new turbo, cut the cat out,vac lines good and pressure is good still no change
It's not going to be a part of the swap why it's not revving past 1800 RPM, what codes are in the system? and did you check your vacuum lines? also have you tried to unplug your MAF?
what are your symptoms?
VW Beetle Golf Jetta Automatic to 5 Speed Swap
I'd check your vacuum lines, occasionally, by moving the engine around to getting the transmissions in and out it will pull on the vacuum lines. it's usually the line that goes to the anti-shutter valve behind the intake leading into the main lines behind the small coolant line
Hello,we completed a 5speed swap from our 02 tdi to 03 tdi wagon,the problem we have is no power,it's like it's in limp mode ,rums and starts great but 1800 rpm no power (I can walk faster )
check out:http://dspauto.com/node/33this instructable is for an ALH version only. yours is a BEW.The reverse, and starter wiring is the same, just the cruise control and A23 bus is different.
the link goes to my web page, but it does have wiring instructions like on here. the web page has my phone number
Never had that problem... maybe you have the wiring going to the wrong pin in the ECU?What codes do you have?
You need to have a 1.8T, 2.0l, or TDI transmission to fit it. The 1.8T if you use something out of a 2.0 or a TDI will need to be tuned to let the cruise control work correctly, you'll also need the computer from a manual, and the immobilizer code for the ECU and your instrument cluster. The cruise control is different between the TDI and the 1.8T, and if yours was a 5 speed you'll need to wire up the speed sensor, and A23 bus as well.
Is there a way of getting a hold of you in real time? Like text or facebook? The link you sent, does it go into the wiring detail for the alh like yours does on here?
I am doing this swap. The donor is a 2000 5 speed TDI, The good car is a 2004 TDI Auto. I am not seeing how to hook up the Speed sensor???Is this write up not going to work for the swap to a 2004??? Everything is installed, and I'm ready to wire and what not...
Please do the instructable for 1.8t for all us non diesels geeks it would make youre instructable more complete .....maybe you will be famous some day?
I have a 2003 vw gti with a 1.8t and 09A (eyp). I located a 2000 Jetta VR6 with a 5speed. Will that 5speed work with my 1.8t? - Yeknomssarb
Hey alpha dog You seem very inteligent i dont have a bently book would you be oh so kind and lay me out for a awp to 5 sp please please please there i begged you!!!! Common champ help a fellow bora skoda seat out!!! - Joebob831
The reverse lights, and starter section are the same, the cruise is (mostly) different. I'll need some time to write up a wiring instructable for a 1.8T jetta.You will also need an ecu and some way of programming the immobilizer on the manual ecu.
When describing wire color code: majority color of wire is announced first ,on my 01 jetta 1.8t/tiptronic there is no yellow/red on the tcu there is a red/yellow???
did the trans swap on 02 Jetta (diesel version) swap went well ,,,did relay re-wire swap ,,,car starts fine ,,problem is cannot get engine to come above curb idol,,2500 rpm...what am I missing ? thanks
I just bought a 2001 Jetta TDI with a bad automatic tranny in it. Planned on swapping the motor from it into another jetta TDI with a manual tranny I have that has a blown motor. do you think a conversion to manual is less work than a motor swap?
Hi Alphaseinor,I'm in the process of doing this auto to manual swap, just had a few questions regarding it.Here is what I have currently:-My car is a 2001 VW Jetta 2.0 automatic 01M-I have a 02J manual trans/gearbox/shift cables/ECM/axles pretty much all of the nuts bolts from a 2001 Jetta 1.8T donor car. My questions are:-Can I use the 2001 1.8T manual ECM for my car? Or would I need a 2.0 manual ECM?-Is it NECESSARY to use the donor 1.8T manual ECM? -I can still use my original cluster?-Is your wiring for the relay/clutch pedal/TCM/ECM etc. similar to a 2001 2.0 even if I use a the manual ECM? I know you did this on a TDI. I do have VAG-COM and could access a Bentley if need be. The mechanical part I can do, just the wiring is the scary part. Please let me know, thanks for your time!
Hi I have 2003 Volkswagen Jetta 118 that I did a manual swap on it everything works fine I just cannot figure out how to get my speed sensor hooked up I have two wires coming out of my speed sensor off a donor vehicle one is blue one is red with something won't where do I hook him up and please give me a little bit more information on how to do it thanks in advance
No it will mate up, you can keep the automatic axles as they are the 108mm the 1.8t manual uses. Wiring will be the same as listed on tdiclub forums or on dspauto.com... the beetle wiring is a little different than the jetta/golfYou likely will be pushing 3500 RPM at highway speeds... You might look into getting a .612 5th gear. you can have close ratio gears 1-4 and a tall 5th.
My dad is getting a complete 1.8T car for parts and I am wanting to swap my auto TDI to manual using the 1.8T's trans. My Bentley manual says the ratios are different but I honestly dont mind. Is there going to be a problem trying to mate them together? Such as input shaft bushing/bearing, bellhousing differences, etc?
That's me! I over think everything... but then I don't have access to a VCDS either. I get what your trying to tell me though. Thanks
No, but there is no need to use the manual dash, I think you are thinking too hard on how to finish the project. if you follow the instructable it will be working correctly without having to pull everything apart, it's only a few small cuts on the existing harness, then splice in 3 connectors, install a wire in the ECU and you are basically done. The way you are doing it adds hours upon hours of labor.
I have the instrument cluster from the Manual car, but I'm guessing I would have to use the dash harness from that car too for it to work.
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the ECM will need to be programmed or it will not be able to start, you'll need to find someone who can do a VCDS readaptation of the instrument cluster to allow the ECU to start. This is much harder than just keeping the ECU that came with the automatic and converting it to a manual coding, however both require a VCDS (vag-com) cable. The instructable only covers converting the automatic harness to the manual harness, therefore I'll need to completely write up a new instructable for this, or append this instructable for the scenario you have listed... by swapping the harness and the ECU you have complicated the swap at least by a measure of 6-10 hours, possibly more. It will be easier if you just follow the instructable, convert it back to an automatic harness and go from there.
I have a 2001 gas/Manual doaner car that I have taken the Eng. Trans, Wiring harness and ECM out of and put them in a 2000 that had an Auto in it. I don't have the TCM and harness. I installed the clutch pedal and have the switch for it and the 53 Replay but have the auto brake pedal and 4 wire switch still in the car. What wiring do I need to do? I'm so confused....
What if I don't have the Auto wire harness? I installed all the Manual trans Gas FI harness along with the Manual ECM. however, the In dash harness is still For the Auto trans. What do I do?
Forgot to say they are both gas. Thanks\
I have a 1999 VW Beetle 2.0 auto that I am putting a 2000 2.0 5sp into. I need to the schematics so I can rewire the under dash harness for a clutch. can anyone help:
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=258297this is the best writeup of the hammer mod
that's a lot of work! modifying the wiring harness from the automatic would have been easier... only takes me about 2 hours for everything. Swapping the entire harness takes days.The injection pump from the automatic is actually a better pump for performance reasons, it's called an 11mm pump, and you'll need to do the "hammer mod" to it if it idles rough or has a slowdown shutter.
It does have a slowdown shutter. How do I do the hammer mod?
I have 2 2000 VW Beetles 1.9TDI. One is automatic and the other is 5 speed. I have put the 5 speed in the automatic car and changed complete wire harness and the ECM. Will I have to change the injector pump?
Thanks for answer mr!!first: well...i´ve reading about the ecu swap and the use of the vcds(vagcom to make the adaptation and vagtacho for get the pin code) so i think there´s no problem whit it. in fact i have a video from ross tech making the procedure.second: for my test i connect the vss pin#1 and pin#3 directly to the battery, but there´s no continuity between pin#2 of the vss and the cluster. previously i get a wire from the pin#3 and the pin#28 of the blue connector from the cluster, but i don´t know if i´ll need them again.third: i found the line of the a27 bus in the bentley and finish in t32/3, (i think so is the cluster blue connector.)My question is: what is the next step?thanks!!
Hi Alphaseinor. i´ve follow your posts on the vw forums. i´m looking for some help. i have a jetta 1.8 turbo swaped from tiptronic 09a to manual 02j, and i can´t make my speedometer works! i´ve followed the next steps:So you deff have a different ECU P/N then I originally Had, but I'm still willing to bet that yours is not recodable at all, as is evident to what you said. That you go to recode it, but it doesn't take. I had the same exact thing...As for the VSS... It really wasn't all that hard once I understood what I was looking at in the wiring diagrams..Pin 1 goes to PowerPin 2 goes to Signal to the SpeedoPin 3 goes to ground (trace #43 is ground)For Pin 2, Snip off the wire at Pin #: 56 at your TCU connector. spice this into Pin #2 of the VSS. DONE!!! (this effectively runs the wire from Pin 2 of the VSS to the Speedo Signal Input (pin 28 of the blue connector for the cluster) =========================================NOW, youe Speedo and Odom will work, BUT... Once tyou get your ECU sorted out, you will still get a CEL that you VSS is implausible. Your ECU 'knows' the car is moving, but cant read at what speed... you need to snip another wire from the TCU connector (Pin #63) and get it connected to the signal output for the speedo (pin # 3 blue connector, cluster)there is an intermediate connection between this and the cluster connector. If you can manager to tie in here, that is pry best. I was not able to so I ran the wire through the firewall just behind the cluster. If you pull off the black cover to the right of the windshield washer motor, you can see where the wires route through... (the line A27 goes to Pin #3 of the blue Cluster connector)..and for good mesure here is the diagram for the Cruse control... Looks like we need to run the +12V to Pin #: 39 of our ECU.maybe i´ve making something bad, please help!!
Im trying to find the correct left side transmission (EBJ coded) mount. I think the part number is 1J0 199 117P but i want to be sure before I order it. Can you confirm this for me? I'm almost complete with "The Swap"!!! :-)Thanks, Rod
Congratulations on writing the article; but you forgot to mention one very important time saving to your readers. It is not necessary to rewire anything to get the cruise to work. Simply wire up the VSS, (install clutch safety switch and cruise cancel switch) and then recode the ECU. Take the car for a drive and test the cruise - it should work fine.
like your instructible. very thorough and informative.
I have an 03 Jetta vr6 that has the 5 speed tiptronic trains its out of the car and I was kicking around the idea of making it manual is this process about the same for my car.
i have a 2003 1.8t gti and was wondering if anyone knew how the wiring goes. i have a manual ecu immob defeated. im guessing the 53 relay doesnt apply to my car. any help will be appreciated.
so if I replace the ecu completely and connect the red/yellow wire to the other wire on the tcm that should make my rmps stop rising when I shift
its a 1998 beetle. had the 01m i believe and we put a 5 speed standard from a 2002 jetta not the deisel but the gas engine.
i seem to be stuck att the part where you remove pin 19 and put it into pin 44. my yellow/red wire on the tcm doesnt appear to have continuity with anything on the ecu. should i justt follow what the instructions say and remove it anyways?
hello I am swapping over on a 1998 beetle. We bought a program called VAG-K and it didn't work. I don't want to spend money on another one that might not work. Is there a specific disk I need that won't cost 600 dollars? And is there a difference between VAG-K and VAG-COM?
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