How to Connect Your Mp3 or Ipod on a Car Cd-player.
Intro: How to Connect Your Mp3 or Ipod on a Car Cd-player.
This is a Sony X-Plod series CDX MP40 about 9 years old, it has served me good all those years ,and I intend to use it for many more.
My purpose is to use the aux input to connect my mp3 player and gain some space from old cd's, and of course use this for as long as it is still working instead of buing a new one.
STEP 1: Check the Back Panel.
At first I removed the device from the dashboard to check if there was an easy way to do this!
STEP 2:
STEP 3:
There were 2 rca female jacks but when I tried to connect my mp3 player to them there was no sound.
STEP 4:
Luckily a friend of mine told me that there is a device that you have to plug where the cd-changer is supposed to be connected and so I did, after some googling and I found what i was looking for on ebay , a Sony Unilink Car Stereo Adapter .I did order one, priced 17usd (or approx. 14 euro) including shipping fees for one item.It arrived pretty quick (4 days after payment) considering it was sent from Hong Kong and I live in Greece.You can build one of these if you have the right skills but obviously I dont so I went the easy way.There are adaptors for all kinds of cd players, if you search google ,for example "JVC(or Pioneer)aux line-in cable" you will find there are many similar devices.
Next thing to do is connect it.
STEP 5:
After I tested everything to find it's working just fine, it was time to put everything back in its place but had also to decide where should the other side of the aux cable go?Well since my hands wont fit inside the dashboard I had to remove a part of it.First I removed the ashtray then pulled genly the panel out.Then having all that space I passed the cable out from the ashtray port and placed the panel back in place.
Now fitting back the ashtray I thought would be a problem but in my case I was lucky to find a gap under the left rail where the cable actually fitted and as I dont use the ashtray,I'm a non smoker, the cable could be easily hidden in there.
STEP 6:
This is how it looks now,there is no visual difference at all, while now I can hear my favorite tracks just by adding them to my mp3 player...
I used for this one:
1) 1 car cd player (already had one)
2) 1 rca to 3.5 male stereo cable (had one,too)
3) 1 Captiva 2G mp3 player (also had one)
4) 1 Sony Unilink Car Stereo Adapter(17$ or 14 Euros)
Total: 17$ (14 Euros)
Here you can watch a short demo I made with my cellphone.
62 Comments
guywire 12 years ago
amclaussen 11 years ago
or something like that. Anyway, congratulations for your Instructable Johnsid (Author).
Amclaussen.
johnsid 12 years ago
Thank you!!!
dwoods-1 12 years ago
ikoneckox3 12 years ago
Icebreacker 12 years ago
amclaussen 11 years ago
IPman 11 years ago
johnsid 11 years ago
Phil B 12 years ago
amclaussen 12 years ago
I find very disturbing a manufacturer such as Sony gave us a pair of RCA inputs, and then DISABLED them as "AUX" by calling them "BUS AUDIO IN", and then tried to steal more money from us by selling their adapter at more than 100 dollars!
The fact that there are two or three aftermarket Unilink adapters, all of them of low construction/cheap parts quality at prices between 15 to 40 dollars show that there are many Sony units that the unsuspecting owners want to use with auxiliary inputs. Shame on Sony for not allowing users to directly connect to their aux inputs. It is a consecuence of the greed of present day business practices and too many people trying to design things using software for very simple tasks, Auxiliary inputs were ever present in Car Stereos before this stupid trend of Unilink. I'm happy the last generation reversed this trend and now includes AUX and even USB inputs (which is also stupid, since Firewire was the way to go, NOT USB, which is NOT the best way to handle Audio (or Video, for that matter).
wkearney99 12 years ago
Firewire is dead. Tens of thousands of different portable devices support USB, dozens (if that) support Firewire. The market has spoken. Move on.
ManifoldSky 12 years ago
The only thing that will kill FireWire is LightPeak, which, BTW, was designed specifically to be FireWire's successor.
What IS dead in the water is USB 3.0.
wkearney99 12 years ago
In short it's a solution that works for all parties involved; both the vendors and the customers. How is this a bad thing?
Or are you hung up on FW for fanboi reasons?
ManifoldSky 12 years ago
It is a solution that works for all parties involved, because the parties are forced to operate within the confines of the technology specs. Companies don't put out devices and formats that support in-car 7.1 surround because there are no players, and there won't be, because USB can't cut it.
Nor am I "hung up on FW." It has its place, just as USB and now LightPeak.
I am not the person with the hang ups. Perhaps this is an ABA issue?
amclaussen 12 years ago
One thing is that the majority of the fabricators and vendors prefer the cheaper USB to save some pennies instead of offering both interfaces in Laptops, or only the ubiquitous USB in portable devices, but it is only because of cost and the ever present trend of pushing mediocre solutions onto the unsuspecting consumer. (it seems their CEO's think: "Why give the people more, if most of them won't notice, lets keep it mediocre and cheap...)
For those who care to understand why USB is NOT the best in Hi quality audio (or video), check on the concept of Jitter in the signal. It is not only a matter of bandwidth, but the way the information stream is handled, the timing.
My comments are not intended to criticize people or the Instructable, but to promote a better understanding, Remember when the first CD players were highly touted and proclaimed as "perfect"?, only to be declared "irritating" and brittle sounding a few years latter. We now can easily compare the sound of those first players against the reallly better sound of newer CD designs; but it took knowledge and patience to be able to discern the differences.
It is sad that consumer electronics could be better designed, but industry in general, has a disgusting inclination to keep producing less than it could, so that the consumer ends having to "up-grade" endlessly. This process of up-grading is not bad in itself, because in this way people become gradually educated and can become appreciative consumers, but this is too costly and lenghty, and produce an enormous quantity of (still working) discarded products, that only go to landfills. And I agree with wkearney99 in one aspect: FW could be dead soon if people continue to believe that USB is "better" (which isn't true, but even some Apple products lately lack the FW port (Apple developed Firewire, BTW)...
Best wishes to all.
wkearney99 12 years ago
Yes, everything could always be "better" but there's the eternal rule: Good, fast or cheap... pick two. There are many costs to consider, hardware interfaces, software, end-user ease of use, and licensing. All of them come with 'pick two' scenarios. FW and so-called "superior" formats lose by failing to recognize this simple equation.
The playback situation in an automobile is not one that requires or even benefits from an excessive amount of 'precision'. It's background entertainment behind the primary task of driving. Not endlessly obsessing about whether the music or consumer audio industry is "out to get your money". Yes, they are, but then so is everything else.
If you really want to get an eye-opener on vendor evils, look no further than Apple. You can't even use ANY kind of interface beyond the audio line out to play any of the media. Not without paying through the nose for highly proprietary methods and hardware interfaces. Sony's UniLink might have it's issues but that's nothing compared to Apple's evils. It's no wonder nobody pays mind to Firewire.
ManifoldSky 12 years ago
Finally come the statements about Apple. You are just simply misinformed. First, what is wrong with audio line out. That is the only option MOST players offer. Apple is one of the few with alternates. Second, 30-pin dock connectors are not expensive. Where are you getting that idea. Clearly you have not priced iPod accessories lately. You can get 30-pin to AV cables for under $5 online, docks with 30-pin connectors are plentiful and cheap, and made by a number of manufacturers. And many cars now come with 30-pin dock connectors standard.
And again, it simply is not true that no one pays mind to FW. It is the industry standard in a number of industries, including video, as well as audio. Again, just go to ANY DJ trade show. Tell me how many USB devices you see.
wkearney99 12 years ago
You ignore the fact you can't get full quality audio out of an iPod anyway. Apple won't let you. No access to the files. Line level audio only. And then you're forced to use the built-in UI on the device. With a USB device you're just plugging in a block device and accessing files. No restrictions or other limits. If your device can play the media you're good to go.
And what would any DJ market have to do with CAR AUDIO? While it's certainly possible that community might want more, so do many others like professional media editing. But, again, those have NOTHING to do with the car audio market. So what bother going off on that tangent?
I don't have the numbers handy but I'd venture the whole argument about USB lacking bandwidth is likewise weak. Just what portable sources are you thinking people are going to be using in the vehicles? Not at DJ stations or editing suites, in the CAR. Just how large is the source data going to be? And what benefit are they going to derive from it? Arguably no benefits given the poor playback environment.
So, sure, there's always going to be some better 'thing' out there. But not everything better has it's place in something like a portable audio playback situation. Or are you so blinded by typical audiophile fetishes that you can't see that simple reality?
ManifoldSky 12 years ago
Also, I am not ignoring anything about audio quality. You are just plain wrong. First, in the original iPod, audio data WAS available from the firewire port, thus immediately invalidating your comments about line-level audio, as well as those about USB. In the newer units, as I have already stated, audio data is available on the 30-pin dock connector. So again, your statements are not correct.
Nor is it necessary to have access to the files. Doing so affords you no greater sound quality or reduces any real restrictions. What are you claiming to do with the files over USB in a car stereo? Certainly nothing that can't be done with the data stream over the dock connector.
The DJ market is an example of how USB can not handle the data throughput needed for high end audio. Funny how you make that such a concern above regarding line-out, but now fail to ss its importance when it becomes inconvenient. It has to do with the car stereo market, and the market for PMPs, because what those players can do, and the quality of the audio, is restricted by the fact that they have standardized on USB. The DJ market is an example of a market with no such restrictions, and there FireWire abounds. It is also an example of how your contention that FW is dead, which was NOT qualified as being a statement about the car audio market, is disproved by the facts on the ground.
As for bandwidth, you don't need to google numbers. You can calculate them. Take a lossless 16 bit audio file at 48kHz stereo and do the math. You will find that you are just under the practical headroom of what USB can achieve. Add in ANYTHING, just center audio even, let alone 5.1, or even 7.1 surround, and you are well beyond what even the theoretical limits of USB, even 3.0, can support.
As for you continued unabated insistance on making your point with ad hominem, it appears that the only person with vision issues in this regard is the one unable to see the legitimate restriction created by USB, and manufacturing issues with devices that simply do not correspond with the facts.