Making Blocks Out of HDPE Milk Jugs

Intro: Making Blocks Out of HDPE Milk Jugs

  This is a brief explanation of the process that I have used to reuse one gallon HDPE ( recycling #2) milk jugs. There are plenty of FAQs documenting HDPE sheet welding for fabric and vacuum forming sheet stock, but I couldn't find anything on forming solid blocks. I was looking for an inexpensive material to use for test blocks that I could put on the CNC machine that would not abuse the router bits.

The process is quite simple. Cut up the bottles, stew them in really hot canola oil on the stove in a pot, and then take the hot plastic and press it into a form to cool. Please note that melting some plastics can release toxic fumes. I have had no issues with HDPE, however I am not a chemist and cannot comment on the health risks of this process.

The pieces of cut up bottle can be any size that fit in the pot. I washed the bottles and removed the labels before cutting. Pouring a small amount of near boiling water into the bottle and swishing it around will help release the glue on the labels. Otherwise the labels tend to tear.

Most any cooking oil will work, and you don't need too much. I just put a couple of inches in the bottom of the pot. Canola oil is inexpensive and has a smoke point of over 400 F (204 C). The melting point of HDPE is in the mid 200 F range but the "extrusion" temperature range is 350 - 500 F. I uses oil heated on my stove top to a little over 350. Just make sure that the bottle pieces are dry or the water will cause oil to pop out of the pot. I used a candy thermometer to keep track of the temperature.

When heated the plastic will not flow. At best I get a really hot clear gooey ball. When melted, as you can see in the images, the plastic is clear. I have found that the colored HDPE used in detergent bottles and other containers does not work as well as the translucent milk jugs.

The form that I used applies pressure from all sides. This is important because it will squeeze out most of the bubbles of oil that are inside the blob of hot plastic and give a better starting point for milling the blocks. I drop the blob in the middle of the form and then press the top on with the two C clamps. Then I insert the two end blocks and clamp them together. The material holds heat for a long time. I left the block in the form for 15 min. and when I took it out it was still to hot to hold. The form I used was plywood that I had lightly oiled with the canola oil. The residual oil in the pot will get really thick when cool from what I assumed was some of the dissolved HDPE, however it does clear up when heated and can be reused. I'm not sure how many times you can reuse the oil. I assume that this type of remelting does weaken the material over time, but the small blocks that I made cannot be bent by hand at all. I have also shown a block of plastic that I formed in a muffin tin and cut in half to show the consistency of the reformed material.

Once the blocks were cool and washed I ran them through a joiner and a planer to clean up the dimensions. The blocks machine easily with all woodworking tools and can be carved with a knife without difficulty. The HDPE has a very waxy feel to it.  It will weep a little oil over time because of tiny fissures in the plastic that hold small amounts off fluid.

I also tested a block on the CNC router and had excellent results. 

Comments

[hockeybeatsinfo]

I tried myself to heat it up on my grill directly into a mold and compact it down with every step.Temperature is important!

[rmbertoldi1016]

Wondering if anyone has ever had the chance to pressure test a block to see what the rating-ish is (for say a 4x4x4” piece or if it has any odd fractals from the larger pieces that might be there but aren’t visible?

[ArcAiN6]

Just out of curiosity, and maybe it's just my thinking out loud here..
Have
you tried shredding the milk jugs, you know, putting it through a paper
shredder? Seems to reason, if you could increase the surface area by
decreasing the size of your parts, you would get a better result.. It
also, in my mind, seems like the best approach, would be to granulate
the plastic, i.e. shred it so fine as to almost powder it, then, instead
of submersing it in a solution that may be more headache than it's
worth, use a dry method, i.e. throwing it in a pressure vessel like a
pressure cooker. Once at temperature, you can vent the vessel, and
recover your product, without the added expense / mess / waste.

I would however, HIGHLY recommend doing any melting of plastics outdoors. Plastics can give off some extremely nasty chemicals.

[psyanideuck]

The canola oil probably acts like that because some of the HDPE is converted into paraffin wax which is soluble in canola oil. HDPE isn't lipid soluble.

[yomero]

could this work with PET?

[slarti.fartfast]

PET melts non-toxically, but has a much higher melting point, making it difficult to use . Polypropylene is very similar to HDPE though, with if anything a slightly lower melting point.

[psyanideuck]

I'm a little tardy to the party but I would really recommend NOT doing anything that could result in the thermal decomposition of polypropylene indoors. It produces aldehydes and carboxylic acids.

[yomero]

thanks

[mfoster]

I really don't know. HDPE is really easy to work with. PET I think requires higher temperature and might not react well to the oil. I have seen instructions on extruding PET into injection molds, but it is a more complicated process.

[yomero]

cool, thanks!

[pops3]

Using outdoor, does sunlight degrade the plastic as it might a milk jug...

Paintability?

[funny1048]

any type of plastic will degrade in sunlight if its exposed to it long enough without uv protection however only a very thin layer on the surface of the plastic will degrade since the sunlight radiation cant travel very far through the plastic therefore it will definetely not degrade to the extent of a milk jug and it will be many years before you notice any kind of degradation and even then it will only be on the surface and therefore wouldnt be a big problem. and yes this plastic is definetely paintable even with spray paint

[pops3]

Thanks, just looking at the possibilities of using a flat piece of plastic outdoor instead of cutting something out of wood or plywood.

[funny1048]

yeah this stuff is definetely awesome and works as well as wood infact it is actually stronger than wood and doesnt rot

[The-Red-Knight005]

great instructable!
is it resistant cause i want to make a slingshot out of HDPE would work ??

[PaulGetson]

HDPE 2 And making a slingshot

[PaulGetson]

How To Make A Slingshot Out Of HDPE

[mfoster]

I'm not sure what you mean by 'resistant', however I don't think that it would be suitable for any part of a slingshot. The oil in the process will leave small voids that will weaken the plastic.

[The-Red-Knight005]

ok thank you

[hobotraveler]

I would request someone do this using solar, and no oil.

http://www.hobotraveler.com/videos/watch.php?v=someone-can-innovate-a-solar-oven-and-make-a-million-dollars-melting-plastic-into-bricks