Rain Water Collector Water Tower W/ Automatic Overflow
Intro: Rain Water Collector Water Tower W/ Automatic Overflow
There are a lot of great designs for systems that collect rain water from residential property that's equipped with gutters. The trouble is that every situation calls for something different. So I'm posting some photos of my rain-water collector to add to the body of examples on the interweb.
This design has a few features that distinguish it from others. One is the height of the barrels. The height allows me to water my garden without having to do it the old-fashion way (filling and carrying watering cans).
Another distinguishing feature is the automatic overflow system. When the barrels are full, the rain continues to cycle through the barrels, but the overflow is sent through the gutter downspout. Other designs may have some kind of manual over-ride, but this design is completely automatic.
This design has a few features that distinguish it from others. One is the height of the barrels. The height allows me to water my garden without having to do it the old-fashion way (filling and carrying watering cans).
Another distinguishing feature is the automatic overflow system. When the barrels are full, the rain continues to cycle through the barrels, but the overflow is sent through the gutter downspout. Other designs may have some kind of manual over-ride, but this design is completely automatic.
STEP 1: Build Platform
I built the platform for my barrels almost 4' (over 1 m) high. This makes the barrels into a water tower; watering the garden is a gravity-powered affair.
When I built the platform, I thought long and hard about safety. . Making a safe platform isn't an impossible task, but 800# (density of water is 8 #/gal) is enough to be careful about. Several things to keep in mind are the strength of the decking material, the height of the tower compared to it's length and width, and the strength of the legs.
I used standard 4x8 retaining-wall block for my first attempt. It was tippy and I took it down immediately. My second attempt was pairs of concrete block, alternating. The second time 'round, I decided to use sand as the base material for the legs. It made the whole job much easier and the cost of the sand was small.
I made the platform out of bits of lumber from an old deck. Using re-claimed wood is cool, but this may not be the place for it. My deck turned out strong enough because I used two layers, but I recommend using decent wood.
When I built the platform, I thought long and hard about safety. . Making a safe platform isn't an impossible task, but 800# (density of water is 8 #/gal) is enough to be careful about. Several things to keep in mind are the strength of the decking material, the height of the tower compared to it's length and width, and the strength of the legs.
I used standard 4x8 retaining-wall block for my first attempt. It was tippy and I took it down immediately. My second attempt was pairs of concrete block, alternating. The second time 'round, I decided to use sand as the base material for the legs. It made the whole job much easier and the cost of the sand was small.
I made the platform out of bits of lumber from an old deck. Using re-claimed wood is cool, but this may not be the place for it. My deck turned out strong enough because I used two layers, but I recommend using decent wood.
STEP 2: Connecting the Barrels
I wanted a higher capacity than 55 gal, so I joined 2 barrels. That sounds easy, but it's a little tricky because the barrels are plastic and the sides aren't square, especially near the bottom.
Join the barrels near the bottom---maybe 6" (10 cm) off the deck. The higher you join them, the more volume will be wasted in the second barrel. Any water that's below the level of this connection won't drain. Same goes for the spigot.
I was told that I should use galvanized pipe with standard pipe threads. Galvanization helps avoid rust.
One possible combination of fittings is closed nipples (short) and pipe nuts. But I couldn't find pipe nuts, so I used couplers instead. Or, that was the plan. Turns out that I was able to use standard spade bits to drill the holes and then I just screwed the nipples into the plastic. They cut their own threads and produced water-tight fittings. I think 3/4" for 1/2" pipe, 1" for 3/4 pipe. Then, you'll need a union to connect the two barrels.
Join the barrels near the bottom---maybe 6" (10 cm) off the deck. The higher you join them, the more volume will be wasted in the second barrel. Any water that's below the level of this connection won't drain. Same goes for the spigot.
I was told that I should use galvanized pipe with standard pipe threads. Galvanization helps avoid rust.
One possible combination of fittings is closed nipples (short) and pipe nuts. But I couldn't find pipe nuts, so I used couplers instead. Or, that was the plan. Turns out that I was able to use standard spade bits to drill the holes and then I just screwed the nipples into the plastic. They cut their own threads and produced water-tight fittings. I think 3/4" for 1/2" pipe, 1" for 3/4 pipe. Then, you'll need a union to connect the two barrels.
STEP 3: Installing the Spigot
Add a spigot by installing a closed (or whatever length you need) nipple and then screwing the spigot onto the nipple. Use teflon tape or pipe compound. Better to be through than to have to drain 50 gal or water so you can repair a mistake.
STEP 4: Automatic Overflow System
For the overflow system, I added an 8" nipple. The length matters because you want to be able to get the overflow into a downspout of sorts. If you use a closed or very short nipple here, the overflow may just drip down the side of the barrel. If you can angle the nipple down a little (just slightly) that would help prevent drippage, too.
I had a PVC elbow and some pipe laying around, so I used that to connect the overflow spout to the downspout of my gutter system.
I had a PVC elbow and some pipe laying around, so I used that to connect the overflow spout to the downspout of my gutter system.
STEP 5: Connecting to the Gutter
I used a 10' section of gutter to connect the gutter system on my house to the barrels. I screwed the slanted section to the house and supported it with a 3-inch L-bracket. I also made a plastic funnel to make sure all of the water coming down got into the tilted section of gutter. It's ugly, but it works.
I used string to tie down the free end. I don't think it does any good at all.
I added a bit of landscaping cloth to act as a filter. After the first rain, it looked as though the water hand backed up high enough to run off the edges. I may have to try something else. I attached it with self-tapping sheet-metal screws. I put the cloth over the heads of the screws and tied it there with string.
I used string to tie down the free end. I don't think it does any good at all.
I added a bit of landscaping cloth to act as a filter. After the first rain, it looked as though the water hand backed up high enough to run off the edges. I may have to try something else. I attached it with self-tapping sheet-metal screws. I put the cloth over the heads of the screws and tied it there with string.
STEP 6: My Results
On Sat 27, 0.14 inches of rain fell. That was measured at the airport, several miles away. I think we got less than that. Anyway, my house is roughly 40x60', and the gutter system looks like it splits the perimeter in half, which is 1200 sqft. I collected about 80 gal. You can see that when we have a storm during which we get half or a whole inch of rain, the overflow system will be needed.
The water color was quite brown, which I think is due to bits of leaves that colored the gutters last year before I cleaned them out. It's kind of gross, but the tomatoes don't seem to care.
UPDATE:
Yes, the gutter had a lot of maple seeds and flowers from this spring, which was the reason for the color of the water. I was surprised at the amount of stuff up there because I'd cleaned them out several times last fall. Turns out it was all fresh from this spring.
I tested the overflow while cleaning the gutters. Works well engough, but a static load is probably not a good idea. I had the PVC pipe hanging on the overflow output, which was enough weight to bend it down a bit.
I decided to give up on the landscaping cloth for a filter. Not only did it not work, I had mosquitoes hatching out in just a few DAYS! Instead, I got mosquito-proof screen. That keeps them in if they're in and out if they're out.
After using my rain-collection barrel, I would recommend you look for more clever plumbing. I've seen some really good designs that eliminate the amount of water that's left in the barrel. I have 10-20 gallons that I can't get out, Also, my capacity is lower that 110 gal because the one barrel was cut off (in a previous life it was an in-garage compost bin for several winters).
Also, use a 3/4 spigot if you can manage. When the water gets low, it takes almost 45 sec/gal to fill a watering can.
After going to some pains to have a gravity-feed system, I discovered that I like watering plants with a watering can because I have a better idea of the amount of water the plant is getting. It is more work, but given my sedentary profession, carrying around a few gallons of water each day is probably good for me.
The water color was quite brown, which I think is due to bits of leaves that colored the gutters last year before I cleaned them out. It's kind of gross, but the tomatoes don't seem to care.
UPDATE:
Yes, the gutter had a lot of maple seeds and flowers from this spring, which was the reason for the color of the water. I was surprised at the amount of stuff up there because I'd cleaned them out several times last fall. Turns out it was all fresh from this spring.
I tested the overflow while cleaning the gutters. Works well engough, but a static load is probably not a good idea. I had the PVC pipe hanging on the overflow output, which was enough weight to bend it down a bit.
I decided to give up on the landscaping cloth for a filter. Not only did it not work, I had mosquitoes hatching out in just a few DAYS! Instead, I got mosquito-proof screen. That keeps them in if they're in and out if they're out.
After using my rain-collection barrel, I would recommend you look for more clever plumbing. I've seen some really good designs that eliminate the amount of water that's left in the barrel. I have 10-20 gallons that I can't get out, Also, my capacity is lower that 110 gal because the one barrel was cut off (in a previous life it was an in-garage compost bin for several winters).
Also, use a 3/4 spigot if you can manage. When the water gets low, it takes almost 45 sec/gal to fill a watering can.
After going to some pains to have a gravity-feed system, I discovered that I like watering plants with a watering can because I have a better idea of the amount of water the plant is getting. It is more work, but given my sedentary profession, carrying around a few gallons of water each day is probably good for me.
6 Comments
Phil_S 9 years ago
Hello
I don't want to sound like a whinger, but when I saw automatic overflow I was expecting to see something cleverer than a length of threaded pipe sticking out the side of the barrel. Unless there is some cleverness hidden away, then an overflow is an overflow.
Collecting rainwater is always a great idea - it's soft water and you don't need highly purified drinking water to water plants, in fact some will thank you for not using it. To see how good it is, get some old-fashioned soap, scrape some flakes into a jam jar, add your rainwater and shake - if you get a "permanent" lather straightaway, you will see how soft the water is, then try it with drinking water from the tap
I would see this strictly as a fair first attempt.
Some suggestions:-
Use proper tank connectors rather than the flimsy method of screwing fitting directly into thin plastic. Sooner or later one is going to get a knock
use 3/4 inch valves minimum - 1/2 inch too slow
Use a siphon tube inside the barrel to get the all the water out
Use proper downpipe and fittings to connect into your gutters
Use a 1-1/2 inch waste PVC tank connector to fit your overflow to the tank - 1-1/2 inch will take any downpour
Make up a decent sand filter system using a small heating header tank with different grades of pond filters
I reckon that installing tanks on all my downpipes, I must have collected in excess of 100 cubic metres of water and the added bonus is that all the rubbish that comes off the roof and ends up in the soakaway, now gets intercepted and does you a real favour.
Oh, and if you live in a frost-prone area, ice will crack all the steel fittings
TYLER ALANJ 8 years ago
Thanks!
neffk 9 years ago
First attempt, many years ago. This was disassembled when I moved.
The siphon is a great idea. 3/4" plumbing is certainly required. The connection to the gutter worked fine but it's ugly.
What do you mean by "proper tank connectors"? What's a 1-1/2" waste PVC tank connector?
Phil_S 9 years ago
Tank connectors come in all sizes - again UK measurements - 1/2" (refers to 1/2" BSP) used with actual 15-mm pipe (nominal 1/2") - this is the smallest practical size for this application. UK waste pipework is generally 1.25" or 1.5", though goes up to 2". You can get tank connectors in PVC or ABS to do the same job with the larger waste pipework.
I come with water engineering credentials and worked with large sand filters on wastewater treatment works - my filter is a 4-gallon header tank with a layer of 10-mm gravel in the bottom covering the outlet; a layer of mesh material; a layer of coarse sand; a layer of mesh; fine pond filter foam, all the way up to coarse - the downpipe feeds into the tank via a vegetable strainer.
The only thing I don't do with the rainwater is drink it. It goes through a UVC (ultraviolet) clarifier and is then pumped up to a large tank in the loft as well as for garden use. I have used it to wash in for years and am still alive - all my pipework is spotless with no scale. I had a cast iron pump which froze and split wide open. The siphon is internal to the tank(s) and allows the tank to be drained to the bottom - you can use the same idea when connecting tanks together, but it will need some sort of air release to start the siphon as the water level rises - this is all standard wastewater treatment practice. Rainy days are now good days. With climate change, not making better use of rainwater will not be an option.
Hope that helps.
Regards
terrefirma 8 years ago
I'm wondering if you have tested the water and why you would not drink it. In the U.S. I feel like all this filtering would be overkill. Here we add some flocculant and Chlorine to taste!
Aquabarrel 10 years ago
Bottom hole bulk head group
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