Making Vise Clamps on the Milling Machine

by Doc Workingday

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Intro: Making Vise Clamps on the Milling Machine

This is a build log of making a simple clamp for holding a milling vise on a milling table. I'm a novice machinist, so there might be some mistakes or errors here and there.

The mill is an X2 "mini mill", manufactured by Sieg and imported and sold in the US by Harbor Freight, Grizzly, etc.

The milling vise is a small screwless toolmaker's vise with clamping slots, sold by Little Machine Shop, Shars.com, etc.

STEP 1: The Design

The bottom surface of the vise's clamping slot is about 0.595 inch above the table, and the top surface of the clamping slot is about 0.300 inch above the bottom surface.

I'm making the clamps from some scrap angle iron. The stock is 0.25 inch thick. Each side is about 2 inches long (from the outside corner of the angle to the end of the "leg").

Additional stuff that's needed that I'm not making is a T-nut, a flange nut, and about 2 inches of 3/8-16 threaded rod.

STEP 2: Rough Cut the Angle Iron

I put an abrasive cut-off wheel on my wood-cutting compound miter saw and cut the angle iron on that. It cut fine, but it got hot enough to melt the plastic part of the saw's table.... That made me feel kind of stupid, I hope no one notices.

Anyway, I cut about a 1 inch wide piece off the length of angle iron. The exact size is not very important.

Then I cut off part of one "leg" of the piece, this will be the foot of the clamp later (where it stands on the mill's table). I learned my lesson about the plastic-tabled saw and made this cut with a hacksaw.

STEP 3: Clean Up the Long Edges

I set up the angle iron in the milling vise and milled the long cut edges nice & flat (& somewhat to size, though this dimension is not terribly important).

The pictures show the setup for milling the two long sides. The rounded end of the angle-iron fits into the horizontal V-groove in the movable jaw of the vise. The edge that I'm milling is sticking out 1/4 inch or so past the vise jaws. This setup was plenty secure.

I eyeballed the workpiece to find the part that was sticking out the most, and gently touched off the cutter at that point. Then I started doing cutting passes in the Y direction, front to back, so each pass was done in conventional milling mode (I'm staying away from climb milling for now). Each pass took off about 0.010 inches of material, on whatever parts of the workpiece were sticking out. Eventually it cut along the whole face of the workpiece, and then I did a 0.005 inch finishing cut and called it done.

I used a 3/4 inch 4-flute milling cutter spinning at something like 800 rpm. Feedrate was probably about 5 or 7 ipm. Depth of cut (of each cut) was about 0.010 inch. I occasionally squirted WD-40 on the cutter and workpiece while cutting.

To mill the other long side I flipped the workpiece upside down (as shown in the second picture). The location of the V-groove in the vise jaw and the length of the foot (the short leg of the angle iron) conspire to make this possible. If the dimensions hadn't worked out I could have kept the workpiece in the "foot-up" orientation and slid the workpiece to the other side of the jaws.

STEP 4: Cleaning Up the Foot

Next I did the "foot" of the clamp, the part that rests on the milling table. This operation cleaned up the hacksaw job & established the height of the clamp. This is probably the most important dimension, but even here there's room for some slop.

I clamped the "long leg" of the workpiece in the vise, being careful to clamp on the straight part of the angle iron, not up near the corner where the thickness changes. I positioned the clamp near the center of the vice to keep the clamping force balanced and avoid twisting the movable jaw.

The desired length of the foot (per the drawing) is 0.875 inch. I knew I cut the foot longer than that with the hacksaw, so there is some spare stock at the end of the foot to work with.

First I squared the bottom of the foot by skimming it with the cutter, just like I squared the long sides in step 3 (except along X in stead of along Y). I cut from the left of the workpiece to the right, to stay with conventional milling.

Once it was flat along the whole bottom of the foot I measured the foot height with calipers (I wiped the reference surfaces with a rag so the swarf wouldnt throw off the reading). This measurement told me how much material I had to remove. I took it off in 0.010 inch cuts until I got within about 0.020, then I measured again and took shallow cuts until I got within 0.005 inch, then I called it good.

STEP 5: All the Facing Is Done

Here it is with all three faces in order and all the edges of those faces filed smooth.

Now it's all over but the slotting.

STEP 6: Slotting Setup

For the slotting, I set it up like this.

It's nice to have the workpiece roughly centered in the jaws, because it gives even clamping pressure, not so much twisting force on the movable jaw.

I want the slot in the middle of the clamp, so I measured the final, actual width of the clamp, located the edge, and positioned the spindle at the X axis center of the clamp.

Lock the X gibs here, we'll just be moving in Y and Z for a while.

STEP 7: Locate the Foot

Touch off against the "inside" of the foot. Remember to compensate for the radius of the edge finder.

STEP 8: Pre-drill the Slot

Drill bits are easier to sharpen than milling cutters, so I drilled holes to hog out most of the metal for the slot. I started with a smallish bit (I think around 1/4 inch) for a pilot hole, then opened it up to 3/8 inch. I know the drawing shows a 0.500 inch slot, but 3/8 inch plus a little is fine.

When I was done there were three 3/8 inch holes through the middle of the clamp, with their sides just touching.

STEP 9: Finish the Slot

Next I used a 3/8 inch milling cutter to turn the row of holes into an actual slot. With the spindle running, I lowered the (center-cutting) cutter down into the existing hole at one end of the slot, then moved it to the hole at the other end. I went back and forth in the slot, going down about 0.050 inch or so for each pass, until I was all the way through.

Then I widened the slot by about 0.050 or so by moving the milling cutter in a sort of spiral, cutting the full wall of the slot with a depth of cut of about 0.010 inch. I cut the spiral clockwise, to ensure that I was always conventional milling.

(Note: For the pics in this step I'm showing a clamp where I tried a shorter slot with just two holes pre-drilled. It's working fine, though I think I prefer the longer slot.)

STEP 10: Cut the Threaded Rod

I bought some 3/8"-16 tpi threaded rod from ye olde hardware store. It was cheap and it came with three pies.

I cut it to length with the hacksaw and cleaned up the cut edges with a file.

STEP 11: Done!

It looks good!

18 Comments

bongodrummer 12 years ago

Oh nice! and clearly superior to your old ones. I demand you write up some more milling projects and details ;)
Good work.

alfredhenriksen 13 years ago

Nice! I loved it, a very clever (and easy to make) idea. Thanks. May I ask if you have experienced some sliding or loosening while machining? The biggest disadvance with it is that the clamping force has 2 directions: down and sideways. The optimal design of such device is to only have a downward force.


I would try to make grooves on it (increase friction) , and with a D-shaped bushing, the mounting screw can have all of the force directed down to the T-nut. I have also seen an another one with two screws, one is adujsting the height, while the other one is going to the T-nut. (Can flex more than your design) Thanks, I love things who make me thinking! :D

robertbaruch 14 years ago

I like it! I'm definitely going to make a set. Much better than that way more complicated clamp design at littlemachineshop (sorry guys, your site is otherwise awesome).

One thing that puzzles me, though. I'm no machinist, so call me dumb, but please answer: how do the clamps ensure that the vise is correctly aligned at 90 degrees to the table?

Doc Workingday 14 years ago

Thanks, and yeah it's a pretty simple design :-)

It's so simple that it does not square your vise for you.  But then, neither do the LMS ones (littlemachineshop.com/Projects/ViseClamps.php).

Squaring the vise is separate from holding down the vise.  Squaring is done by you, by sweeping the fixed jaw with a dial test indicator and gently tapping the vise until the DTI measures no deflection from one end of the jaw to the other.  Each time you get the vise a little more square, tighten the clamps slightly and remeasure (since tightening the clamps can move the vise).

robertbaruch 14 years ago

Thank you, now I understand what's going on!

BoiseTyler 14 years ago

Any chance you could convert the drawing to a PDF? I'm trying to post your project to my site (projectsinmetal.com) and I'd like to include a PDF copy of the drawing for viewers that don't have CAD software.

Thanks in advance,

Tyler

Doc Workingday 14 years ago

I added a pdf version of the drawing to step 1, "the design".

BoiseTyler 14 years ago

Excellent, thank you. I've uploaded it to the site. Thanks again for letting me share your project with my readers!

Tyler

BoiseTyler 15 years ago

Hey, would you mind if I added your project to my site - ProjectsInMetal.com?

I'm always looking for fun projects to add to the site and I think my readers would get a kick out of yours. I'm especially short on simple milling projects for the beginner, so this one would be perfect. You can let me know by clicking on my name here and sending me a private message, or by visiting my site and filling out the contact form.

Thanks in advance!

Doc Workingday 15 years ago

Of course, I'd be happy to have this on ProjectsInMetal. I've been checking it out, you've got some cool stuff on there :-)

Koa is A OK 15 years ago

Daddy like! ima make some tomorrow, i HATE the ones on my Sherline.....stupid bits o metal thanks so much for a simple and nice idea

FleaCircusDirector 15 years ago

Note: A end mill won't cut a slot exactly to size so you need to use a smaller one and machine each size in turn, just as the Doc has done here. A slot drill will cut to size and the slot could be cut in one pass.

Hands Without Shadows 15 years ago

I like it, but I hate having to tighten the same nuts frequently. I would change those nuts out for lift and set levers but thats another project in itself.

CameronSS 15 years ago

Which came first, the milling machine or the milling machine vise?

Hands Without Shadows 15 years ago

The milling machine came first. Its easy enough to mill just by clamping parts to the table, its just a pain to realign everytime you move the piece.