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Build a Microwave Transformer Homemade Stick/Arc Welder

Build a Microwave Transformer Homemade Stick/Arc Welder
I had no idea making a DIY welder would be so easy to do. And, it's pretty much FREE!

Additionally, the stick welder you get is definitely better than anycheap commercial welder you can buy.
Why is this homemade thing better than something you can buy? Because when you factor in shipping and labor and the little bit of retail markup - the companies that make typical cheap buzz boxes will skimp on copper as much as possible. Whereas you can use enough copper in this to make something really juicy, and still spend less, to nothing, compared to a store-bought arc welder.

So here's what you need to build a welder:
- Two beat up old microwaves
- Some 10 gauge wire
- Wire nuts

People throw out microwaves all the time, if you keep your eyes on the curbs.
Or, you can get microwaves at the local thrift store for $10 each.
Try the warehouse that processes donations - they have to pay to get rid of tons of broken ones.

Stuff you need for welding:
- Welding helmet ($16 and up)
- Welding rods ($6)
- Vice grip or purpose-built electrode holder ($6 for either)
- C clamp for grounding clamp
- Gloves
- Thick nonflammable (leather) clothing that will cover your arms

Disclaimer: High Voltage ELECTRICITY and lots of CURRENT! Heat, electrocution, and DANGER! You could die and you could go blind.

That said, try this at home!

See this for a lot of welding safety tips

Here are the really good how-tos that this project is informed by:
build a 70 amp welder
the tiny tim welder by tim williams
home made welding machine (via afrigadget)

Dan Hartman's how-to is good for reference, too.

And here's the quickest way to make a DC welder with a bunch of 12 volt batteries.
 
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Invite your non-hardware oriented pals over to help help dissect your donor appliances.
They'll love it. David Grosof donated one of these microwaves under the condition that we take it apart together.

Good safety tip:
You'll find a gigantic capacitor inside the microwave. It looks like a metal can with two tabs on top.
Short it out to make sure it doesn't have any leftover charge on it, before you poke your hands anywhere near. Just put a screwdriver or something metal you aren't connected to, across the two metal terminals shown here.
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May 26, 2012. 5:13 PMKCMude says:
Hey Engineers, technicians, Craftsmen and many more in this forum, am happy to report that following instructions is easy. With 2.5mm diameter wire 18 turns on the secondary was able to get 18.5volts hence, I must be able to get 37volts if I manage to make the second transformer. I will give a full report when my project comes to an end.
from Kaychi.
Feb 2, 2009. 5:06 PMautophile says:
Could this thing weld, say, two pieces of 0.25-inch aluminum square bar together? I'm not sure if aluminum can be arc welded...
May 25, 2012. 6:46 PMbatvans46 says:
i know its a bit late to help you but for anyone who stumbles across this, theres a product called "alumi-weld" and it and variations of it can be found at discount hardware stores like harbor freight. its basically an electrode but you use a butane torch to do the welding. stick in one hand, torch in the other, pretty simple really. does a good job but i wouldnt use it on anything that carries a heavy load. i dont load my alumiweld-ed joints more than 30 pounds and its fine.
Oct 13, 2009. 5:03 PMMeralain says:
 Aluminum can be welded with stick, but only with DC voltage.  The process is slightly different than steel in that aluminum must be preheated to 4-500 F before attempting to weld.  To make one of these microwave welders DC you have to find some very large diodes--4 of them--and then install several very large caps to iron out the voltage spikes, along with inductors.  Better off to get a real DC welder like a Miller 225 and burn aluminum that way!
May 16, 2009. 11:02 AMdouble_g says:
I'm not sure if it works to well, but I have seen aluminum arc welding rod for sale. Therefore it should be possible.
May 23, 2012. 8:07 AMMisac-kun says:
Do i really need two transformes or just a 220V one will do? If yes how much turn the second coil will need or just link me a calculator for this, if there is one or just the formula.
Oct 26, 2011. 6:13 AMsandra.nunn says:
On July 5, 2011 our son was accidentally electrocuted to death in our driveway. He was building, what we and the police believe to be this apparatus. The last website on his computer was this one and there was a microwave oven that was partially disassembled on his bed. He was not wearing gloves. He was 20 years old and is expecting a baby. The loss we have suffered is great. We feel that your site minimized the actual danger involved when working with such a powerful high voltage piece of equipment. Your warning disclaimer was followed by the statement: "That said, try this at home!". Further down your site states "Invite your non-hardware oriented pals to help dissect your donor appliances." Twenty year-olds tend to see themselves as invincible, and danger and death sometimes doesn't seem real to them. Your statement, "You could die...", really did happen- to our son.
May 23, 2012. 6:24 AMBalerich says:
I read your comment about your sonshorrible accident and I am now deeply moved to express my deepest condolence. I am a father and my son means the world to me.. The loss of your son is a tragedy that hurts even to imagine. I will take this as a serendipitous lesson and will reaccess my aproach to safety. I will strive to be wise and to practice patience. Thank you for helping us. Farewell
Apr 27, 2012. 9:02 AMfidgety2 says:
Would jumper cables work for the 10 guage wire or would that be too small
Mar 26, 2012. 8:46 AMYtekSpouki says:
Can I connect ground to my wall ground ?!? Or where ??? Is Ground the center tap of both transformers ?? and when they are in parallele ?
THX
Mar 22, 2012. 4:40 PMfirebird2000 says:
Your link to "welding rods" is really an auto-matic plant water-er...
Feb 21, 2012. 4:45 AMOVERLOADED says:
wouldnt wiring the sec in parallel give you double the amps?
Mar 15, 2012. 4:37 PMoskymike says:
yup,ya got that one right,push pull sort of thing,wire them up then check the voltage on the output,(careful,currant ,not voltage kills)
Mar 15, 2012. 6:35 PMOVERLOADED says:
yes thats right thanks i got zapped by 60kv and didint die lol but its funny im a welder and i can zap myslef with sparks of about 3/4 inches from the tig machine on my finger and not feel any jolting ? can you explain why?
Mar 15, 2012. 4:33 PMoskymike says:
wahay,found a microwave unit down the street,just striped the secondary out tnite so looking for some suitable wire to re-wind,was thinking of an old starter motor or something simular,P.S.,if you want to control the power out then put your dimmer or what-ever in the mains lead input,NOT OUTPUT!
Feb 21, 2012. 4:42 AMOVERLOADED says:
does wiring the sec in series also give you double the voltage ?
Nov 8, 2009. 2:00 PMtimmy300 says:
Hi guys. im from the uk. i want to use two MOT's for my welder, but i dont undeerstand how to wire them up correctly and safely. Ok so in everyones elses MOT arc welder are the transformers with in series to each other or in parralel? How to i connect all the primary wires into a 13amp three pin UK wall socket?
I havent got my MOT's yet but does anyone know what kind of current i can get out of 10 turns of thick wire on both transformers with an input of 230v @ 50hz? Also i heard that somone used 10awg wire and it melted can anyone recomend a good thickness and a supplier?

THANKS
Nov 27, 2010. 4:16 PMclayfigur says:
if you have a 3 pin wall socket... the third one must be a ground wire... connect the earth wire/ground wire to the casing of your MOT welder....

Its better to make a welder, using thicker wires on the secondary, even with lesser turns.You just need to add another transformer..

I tried 2 transformers, 10AWG 10 turns each... secondaries in series, primary in parallel.

then 3 transformers 8AWG 7 turns each... secondaries in series, primary in parallel. (this works better)

I'm also thinking of making a 4 transformer welder, as soon as I find one more...

Anyway, as added cooling, i used the fan found in the microwave, to cool of the unit from heat. a little aluminum heat sink would also help..

Jul 14, 2011. 11:47 PMmicroedit says:
About the three prongs...one is ac electricity always on, the next is used only if there is a short to it... i.e. bad wiring....the third the government added for the housings of appliances, so a short would not get to a person touching the appliance. But ...a double short would still get you (very rare!). Also, the second wire is necessary to complete the AC circuit but never has juice...its just a conductor (unless a short).
Dec 14, 2011. 9:42 PMdph84 says:
The first prong is the "hot" conductor, which represents one end of a single-phase "edison style" power distribution transformer out at the street... the second prong is the center tap of that transformer...(it has 240v overall, the center tap is a difference of 120v, and when you use both "ends" of the transformer out at the street --both "hots"--it gives you 240v.) The only reason the second prong does not "have juice :?" on it is because it is connected (bonded) to the third prong--the bonding electrode conductor--at the breaker box. Effectively telling the power distribution transformer where ground is. However the second prong DOES "have juice" during half of the cycle of AC...Its just that it has no potential to ground because they are the same point, provided you are close enough to the point where they meet. The bonding electrode is to give a low resistance path back to the breaker box in the event of a short, in order to trip the breaker--but you can and do get the living daylights shocked outta you before the very SLOW tripping of breakers occurs. That's why breakers are there to prevent fires, but GFCI protected circuits are to protect personnel. Just wanted to get that all corrected. Thanks :)
Dec 14, 2011. 9:37 PMdph84 says:
Note: I gave voltage for the U.S. by mistake. In the U.K. the voltage in the uk is 230, but the real distiction to be made is that it is 50hz instead of 60hz.

Frequency change affects transformers like this: raising the frequency (more than the nameplate value) causes the transformer to "fight itself" more--i.e. more heat, due to less effeciency...though this is not considered unsafe as long as it can be dissipated. Lowering the frequency, on the other hand, causes the transformer to "not restrict itself enough" (to understand that one, take an AC power class...) thus causing TOO MUCH CURRENT to flow through the windings themselves... which can cause meltdown. Its not simply a heat thing, though it becomes heat. it is an overcurrent thing.
Oct 16, 2011. 2:31 PMtmelnik says:
so..... i just wanna know this... does the ends of the secondarys (where the actual welding is being done), does the secondary connect anywhere!? like how do you get power to the secondary if the ends are just the welding stick, and the ground?
Dec 12, 2011. 9:37 PMdph84 says:
Listen very carefully--if you don't understand how power gets to the secondary--then DO NOT attempt to build this device. (at least not at this time) Because that is extremely evident to anyone qualified to build this. I'm not trying to sound rude. I'm simply stating that it is basic electrical theory. The answer to your question is that in an AC circuit, a coil creates an electromagnetic field which expands and can induce a voltage on another coil. The primary coils being energized make an electromagnetic coupling which is the basis of how ALL transformers work. You may have some experience with DC cirucits and I want to encourage you to learn your way up to the point where this instructable is obvious to you, too. But as far as now, be SAFE, and don't mess around with this circuit. If you want proof, check out the extremely sad story that young man's mother wrote on a previous page.

--DH
Jul 27, 2011. 1:39 PMzanki_kitsune says:
have you thought about placing a light dimmer on on of the transformers power cables so you can somewhat control the power of the welder?
Dec 11, 2011. 12:04 PMsnotty says:
Yeah I've thought about it but I haven't done it yet.
Dec 12, 2011. 8:56 PMThe 4th Doctor says:
uuuuh did you guys read the instructable (step 11)

light dimmers typically aren't rated for inductive loads not sure what the typical wattage is either but it will work as long as it doesn't pop, if you have one on hand id recommend trying it.

the speed controller mentioned in the comments should work without any problems if that fails. don't forget to use a 20% off coupon.
http://www.harborfreight.com/router-speed-control-43060.html?utm_campaign=SEO&utm_medium=Inbound_links&utm_source=linking
Nov 21, 2011. 7:56 PMstick2wire says:
I am converting a 220v 140amp buzz box to a wire welder....I would like to convert the 220 line voltage to DC with a bridge rectifier...my question is can I place the rectifier before the transformer on the line voltage, and if so, how do I wire the rectifiers...
Thank You..........
Dec 7, 2011. 9:28 PMThe 4th Doctor says:
This will not work, transformers run on ac. also depending on the amount of impedance used to balance the transformer it could draw way too much current if you feed it dc.

so you need to rectify it after the transformer, look at the wikipedia page on bridge rectifiers for more information

http://www.bgmicro.com/DIO1024.aspx

that bridge should handle some welding if you can give it time to cool off (in theory anyway)

stacking them should work fine
Nov 14, 2011. 7:29 PMpyrogreasemonkey says:
alturnative to using thick wire: just wind two wires ! yo can just take many small wires and solder them at the ends to make one big wire.
Aug 7, 2009. 4:48 PMddc1011 says:
How do you tell if a dimmer is solid state and rated for inductive loads. I have checked the website of leviton which is a manufacturer of dimmers sold at home depot as well as the packages and cannot find any references. Thanks
Aug 8, 2009. 9:07 AMTimAnderson says:
This $20 harbor freight "router speed control" is the best deal I know of for a dimmer that works with inductive loads. I bought one to use with the welder, but I haven't tried it yet.
Pagano's hardware here on Alameda has lots of dimmers, but the ones that do inductive loads are $40 or so. The packages there say whether they are intended for inductive loads or not.
Oct 17, 2011. 10:29 AMtditulio says:
Used this speed control. Tested with a 34.4VAC on full. It does vary the voltage readings under adjustment, so I would say it works. Haven't welded with it yet however.
Oct 24, 2011. 9:26 PMsir bobby says:
When you do weld with it can you post your results here?
Nov 4, 2011. 10:45 PMtditulio says:
First let me say, I have never welded before. This is my first hands on experience.
The box only goes to 15 amps and you will be blowing a lot of them at first. Probably run a 20 amp fuse with no problems. I ran a 30 @ 75% and it started to work properly, then the transistor in the box blew up. Upgrading this or decipating the heat from it will need to be done to go above 15 amp fuse safely. Also, one of the transformer secondaries smoldered, so I need to replace the wire or re-insulate it to have this welder work again. This was probably due to lack of proper heat decipation.
Sep 28, 2011. 12:28 PMmajada says:
here are the pics of the tower. sorry if im not allowed to sell things, just thought someone might be able to use it.
Oct 14, 2011. 1:15 PMsealman says:
what is your location. and how much
Sep 28, 2011. 12:00 PMmajada says:
hey i have a couple 115v STEP DOWN transformers, will those work? do you think i need one or two?

i also have a gigantic transformer from a big cell tower thing. it was a power supply for some kind of print shop. its is about 9ft tall with all kinds of circuits and switches and what not. it might be too big for the welder i wanna build though.

Im looking to sell that whole tower thing if anyone is interested who is in the atlanta area, you can PM me for pictures or i might post on here. it had two transformers but i was broke and had to scrap it. got about 90 bucks for it.
Aug 21, 2011. 10:54 AMT Bomber says:
I don't know much about electricity,but I know there are different types of 10 gauge wire(solid,multistrand,different types of sheathing etc).My question is-which type would be best?I'm scrounging all the other parts,but considering the dough I'm saving by building my own,i have no problem shelling out some money on wire.Plus i'd just as soon not have to redo it if it melts.Thanks
Aug 22, 2011. 1:54 PMcenzo188 says:
If you want some nice wire, order it here: http://www.farmandfleet.com/products/441178-spooled_10_gauge_primary_wire.html?source=googleps
this is the stuff I used. It's 20 bucks for a hundred feet, and the insulation is nice and flexible, and easy to wind. As for melting, it hasn't melted on mine.
Aug 14, 2011. 12:09 PMcenzo188 says:
I am building one of these now, and I was wondering about some sort of control circuitry. You used a variac, but my variac can only handle 4 amps.
Would a light dimmer, the way it adjusts the duty cycle, be effective at all? I would replace the tiny triac with a 50 amp one of course, using just the control circuits.
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