It is a cousin of the box weave, which I personally dislike, and therefore have not presented as an instructable. If you do know box weave, however, think of the Byzantine as alternating box weave.

You may wish to start with Paul the Mole's European 4-in-1 weave instructable to get you familiar with chain working. Euro 4-in-1 is excellent for making sheets of chainmail, and is a great beginner weave. I also have an instructable on making jewelry-size rings, and armor-size rings will be addressed in another instructable.

See the photo? The IDs are all the same, but the thicker wire looks better. Be careful not to go too thick, though--the weave will get too tight to construct.

I much prefer to prepare my rings before I start weaving. I figure out how many open rings I need and now many closed rings (I calculate a ratio), and then I start weaving. When I run out, I prepare more rings in the appropriate ratio.

For this method of Byzantine weave, you want 4 open rings per 2 closed rings. These rings will be made into 1 unit of 2x2 for every 2 open rings. Let me explain:

Take one open ring and slip two closed rings on it. Close the open ring.

Take a second open ring, and slip the same two closed rings upon it. Close the open ring.

You should end up with a set of four rings where every ring goes through two other rings, no more and no less.

Once you prepare your 4:2 ratio of rings, you will be left with 2 open rings per 2x2 unit.

For this method of Byzantine weave, you want 4 open rings per 2 closed rings. These rings will be made into 1 unit of 2x2 for every 2 open rings. Let me explain:

Take one open ring and slip two closed rings on it. Close the open ring.

Take a second open ring, and slip the same two closed rings upon it. Close the open ring.

You should end up with a set of four rings where every ring goes through two other rings, no more and no less.

Once you prepare your 4:2 ratio of rings, you will be left with 2 open rings per 2x2 unit.

<p>Outstanding demonstrations thank you for taking the time to make the video's.</p>

<p>You are the first weaver I have found that also uses the 5x2 (2x2x2x2x2) Byzantine speed weaving tactic.<br><br>I'm surprised more folks either don't use or don't declare this technique when writing guides on speed weaving.</p>

Sorry I mean 16 gauge

I don't know off the top of my head. I would either have to weave it for you or do the math for you. And I don't even know if you have AWG or SWG. <br>You should have no trouble finding examples on the internet of similar gauges, similar ARs, etc. The sites I linked earlier should be a solid start, and so will www.mailleartisans.org. Once you determine your proposed AR, you can infer from the various photos whether your weave would be looser or tighter. There are also plenty of websites that list rings per inch for various weaves at various sizes.

2 questions.<br>1. Would this weave really flexible with a 12 gauge 1/4" ID? Like for a bracelet.<br>2. Do you know how many rings per centimeter it would be for the same measurements in the previous question?<br>Thanks.

1. I'm pretty certain this weave would be impossible with those stats, even with a single connector between units. You'll need a larger mandrel or thinner wire.<br>Assuming 12 ga AWG: that's 1/4" divided by 0.0808 = 3.09 AR<br>Assuming 12 ga SWG: that's 1/4" divided by 0.104 = 2.4 AR<br><br>Byzantine needs to be in the 3.3-3.5 range (though that depends on whether your calculations account for the fact that the ring's inner diameter is never exactly the mandrel size due to spring back).<br>http://www.mailleartisans.org/articles/articledisplay.php?oldkey=10902<br>http://www.zlosk.com/maille/artable.html<br><br>2. #1 establishes that this is pretty much impossible.

This instructable was rather helpful. I had to do a slight modification of what oyu did for my project through (a bracelet for a lady friend), where I used rubber O rings every other section (where you usually peice togethe rthe 2x2 sections, i instead closed the 2x2 sections aroudn the orings) so it would have a degree of stretchiness. <br> <br>Came out much better then I'd expected, sadly I only had straight stainless wire onhand to make the rings from, so i couldn't give the bracelet any real pazzaz, but all in all a good project for someone to try out on a boring afternoon

just wondering what would be a good ID for 12 and 14 ga weave, i see instructions on the net about 20ga to16ga, but never anything larger?

this is really cool. do you know how to acutally make it into chainmail instead of just a chain. that would be helpful

You can't make Byzantine into a sheet. Look up European 4-in-1 or 6-in-1 weave for "chainmail" sheets. (Yes, I know how to do it. No, I don't have an instructable written up for it, but I'm pretty sure other people have.)

Yes you can. :D<br><br>http://www.mailleartisans.org/weaves/weavedisplay.php?key=572<br><br>The tutorial is here;<br><br>http://www.mailleartisans.org/articles/articledisplay.cgi?key=13016<br><br>I created the weave in '05, and a user by the name of MrMaigo made the tutorial shortly thereafter.

could you put up an Instructable on the 6-in-1? cause I haven't seen that one on yet.

<a rel="nofollow" href="http://cgmaille.com/tutorials/e4-1.shtml">http://cgmaille.com/tutorials/e4-1.shtml</a><br/><br/>6 in one is exactly the same as 4 in one, but each ring goes through 3 rings on each pass instead of 2..just a bit more dense.<br/>

<a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.theringlord.org/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=10786">http://www.theringlord.org/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=10786</a><br/><br/>byzantine sheet...its huge :D<br/>

I have wanted to do this for a while, finally took the plunge after reading this Instructable, I ordered 16gauge 1/4"id stainless and bronze rings from The Ring Lord as well as 2 bent nose pliers. One days work was all it needed to produce this: It's a little too long but that will be easy enough to sort out. THANK YOU, for this very easy to follow Instructable.

i make chainmail, and i couldnt understand it! you need to be more precise. maybe using coloured rings to show which pairs you are working would help

ang ganda nice one!!!

I have been struggeling with this weave..Your video made me see how it is done and how easy it is too..Thanks a mil..

The video makes perfect sense.

The instructions is not clear, need to take more pictures and add litle more explanation. Good example the instructions by jbb3141.

No offense, but this made zero sense to me =(

Where can I purchase the rings? oO

theringlord.com

the black rings what material is that?

Beautiful! I HAVE to try this. I just hope my hands are nimble enough to do it. Love Great Big Sea also! Keep up the good work. Absolutely inspiring.<br />

Kantygenij

<p>Umm... My links keep fliping back and forth so the weave doesn't keep its shape. Do I have to use thicker wire (I am using wire about as thick as small paperclips)</p>

Sounds like that is probably the case. Not necessarily thicker wire you could also make your rings smaller. If your wire is about the size of small paper clips that proably makes it around 20ga. At that size I have found that the ring size needs to be pretty small. 20ga wire with a 7/64 inner diameter is almost perfect for byzantine

I get it now. Great Instructable!<br />

Great choice of music on your videos! Great Big Sea is AMAZING!

LOVE Great Big Sea! LOVE this video!

yeah.....

It's been a couple of months since I've made any chain-maille so I made a neckles for myself today.

try learning how to show ur steps better. i find this instructable useless really. you just jump in to it showing absolutely nothing of how you got there

I've found copper electrical wire wrapped around a pencil works great for proper diameter and guage.

what is the black 20g 1/8" and where do you get the titanium

where can you get the rings

I make mine. you can find guides.

Look at his links section - he posted 3 good sources.

There must be some sort of rule-of-thumb if not a formula for calculating the number of links used per linear or square unit depending upon the guage, the ID and the weave.
Anyone know where to find such a thing?

I estimate - and this is only an estimate - based on a post I made above...<br/><br/>that each ring in this weave, at an Aspect Ratio of 3 - will travel .28x the inside diameter per ring...<br/><br/>as in 10 1 inch id rings would travel 10x0.28 = 2.8 inches<br/><br/>a 17 inch chain would take 17/.28 = 60 1 inch rings (big rings for sake of ratio)<br/><br/>a 17 inch chain would take 17/(say 1/4 inch) / .28 ratio = 242 quarter inch rings<br/><br/>17/(7/64)/0.28 = 533 7/64th rings....<br/><br/>all these numbers depend on an ar of 3.<br/>

I approximated 192 rings for an 18 inch chain with 18 ga 3/16" ID rings, but I haven't made it yet, so it's only an estimate at this time.
That's why I asked. Just trying to figure out what it would cost to make for each.
When I finish my first chain, I'll post my numbers. Unless Ryz posts first.

Ive made 4in 1 and my own rings, but this is just plain confusing. I like pictures. I got to step one and I think I did it right but I cant get #2. Well time to replay "through the fire and the flames" and do more 4 in 1.

its not too confusing...
for the writing: a '2 in 2' is 2 rings through 2 other rings, like kings maille would be.
basically make 2 in 2, then flip it backwards...then put more 2 in 2 on the end, inside the exposed rings....then repeat.
The video 'v.2' shows it really well.
making the 2 in 2's in advance speeds things up (speedweaving)
It only works with rings around the aspect ratio 3 mark.

I was just wondering about how many rings you use on an average bracelet.
Thanks for any info.

The ratio depends on the size of your rings...I'm making one now, and its 20ga 7/64 inch (ar around 3.0)<br/><br/>anyhoo...it looks as if this weave uses about 32/inch of chain<br/>or each inch travels about 1/32" 'per ring' (or 2/64ths)<br/><br/>again each ring is 7/64"...and each ring travels 2/64", a ratio of .285<br/><br/>so...a 7 inch chain would take 7 / (7/64 / (1/.285)) = about 200 rings<br/>

It really depends on four things the size of the rings the size of the wrist width of the patch or string and lastly the pattern that you are going to use

the purple is very pretty with the black; I like how it pops

what is the diamiter of the rings on the 24g 1/16" titanium chain?!!!!!!!!

very small