Introduction: A Miter Box for a Circular Saw
I need to replace some baseboard trim in my son's house a day's drive from my workshop. I do not have a miter box, but I do have a pretty good circular saw.
The photo shows the miter box I made for my circular saw. In the photo I am testing it with some 1 x 2 furring strip. In use the saw slides across a table with the saw shoe against a fence. See the next step for a Google Sketch-Up view of the miter box.
Step 1: An Overview Image
Materials
- 1/2 inch plywood
- Finish nails
- Glue
- Screws
- Table saw
- Rule
- Square
- Hammer
- "C" clamps
- Hole saw
Step 2: First Steps
I made two pieces of plywood cut to 5 x 24 inches. In the photo a third piece of plywood 5 x 12 inches is being glued to one of the pieces 5 x 24 inches. The finish nails hold the pieces in place until the glue can dry. The other piece 5 x 24 will be glued and nailed in place to form the "U" box.
Step 3: Add the Table
Cut and glue a piece of plywood 12 x 12 inches over the open portion of the "U" box. This will be the table on which the saw moves.
Step 4: Add the Fence
I used a square with longer legs to make a reference line on the table portion. Then I used a rule to measure so I could position the fence where the edge of the saw's base plate or shoe will be. After attaching the fence with "C" clamps, I used two screws to fasten the fence to the table portion.
Step 5: Establish the Cut Line
As soon as the miter box was ready I set the saw to 45 degrees and made a cut across the table. This will aid in positioning pieces of molding for cutting. (I had not yet cut a hole with the hole saw.)
Step 6: Test
I am using two pieces of furring strip lumber. It is relatively straight. The "X" mark on each represents the top of a piece of molding for cuts that need to be a mirror opposite of each other, and not the same cut made twice, then flipped over. The pencil lines indicate roughly where the cuts will be to make a mitered corner.
Step 7: Making the Cuts
The photo shows one of the furring strips clamped in place for cutting. The end has been pulled into the miter box far enough that the saw will cut through it without removing too much and without failing to cut enough. The "C" clamp is enough to hold the furring strip snugly enough. I paid attention to the pencil marks from the previous step so the saw cut follows them and I do not make a cut the opposite of what I intended. When the first piece was cut, I inserted and clamped the second piece for its cut.
If need be, I could insert a piece of molding from the opposite end of the miter box, although I do not yet have a clamping system worked out for that arrangement. As it is, the finished side of the molding will be facing downward. That means the cut will be cleaner because the teeth of the saw blade will cut the finished surface of the molding as the teeth enter the molding, not as they exit it.
Step 8: The Result
It is a little difficult to hold two pieces inside a square and take a photo, but you can see the miter cuts make a tight corner.
I did discover the click stop on my saw's tilt setting is not quite as accurate as I would like. When I travel to my son's house to replace the two pieces of molding damaged by a young dog chewing on them, I will take these furring strips along to make some test cuts before cutting the actual molding.
27 Comments
9 years ago on Introduction
I am female, 65 years old, single, and in the process of remodelling a very old mobile home I got for a song. My projects are endless---today, I I had planned to frame my bathroom window. After determining that I CANNOT "eyeball" a mitered corner (lol, wish I could post the results so everyone could have a good laugh), I had the brilliant idea of building my own miter box, but no clue how to do so. I googled it, saw this, built this and my window is perfect! Now I'm seeking out projects that need corners! Very good job explaining and showing just how (and why) it was done; I am pleased and proud of my work! Thank you so much!!
Reply 9 years ago on Introduction
Wow! I intended to use mine, but did what I needed to do another way. You actually did it. I am pleased it worked for you. Sooner or later a cut will be just a tiny amount off and the miter will not be as perfect, perhaps because corners on walls are not always exactly square. For times like that, you may find this very useful.
11 years ago on Introduction
Good job, as usual! I see you are on 222, and way over 2M views! Wow, you are a busy man!
Reply 11 years ago on Introduction
I retired in June and my wife has a few "honey-do" jobs for me. If something requires unusual problem solving, it has a good chance of becoming an Instructable. Thank you for looking.
Reply 11 years ago on Introduction
I would love to be retired and just build cool things all the time. Too bad I'm only 16 :-(
Awesome job on this though!
Reply 11 years ago on Introduction
Retirement will come sooner than you think. I remember being 16 and anxious to be 18 or 21. The older you get, the faster time seems to pass.
Reply 11 years ago on Introduction
Time is like the toilet paper roll: the closer it gets to the end, the faster it goes. Nice project.
Reply 11 years ago on Introduction
Thanks. I hope itt is useful to someone.
11 years ago on Introduction
Is the hole positioned to clamp?...what is the purpose of the hole?
Reply 11 years ago on Introduction
Originally, I intended the hole to accommodate a "C" clamp for holding the molding in place, but I made the hole without measuring and the clamp would be in the way of the saw. The hole is handy for supporting the piece of molding until I can get the "C" clamp on it as shown in the introductory photo. I may experiment with grasping the molding with my fingers to support the end near the blade when cutting. The blade is far enough away that it is not physically possible to get my fingers near to the blade. Thank you for looking and for your comment.
Reply 11 years ago on Introduction
Great idea Phil, let us know how it turns out in use.
John
Reply 11 years ago on Introduction
My daughter-in-law sent a photo of the baseboard corner the dog chewed. I looked all over the Internet and in one of the big box home repair stores. Nowhere can I find baseboard molding like what they have. If I cannot find replacement molding, there is no point in ripping out what is there. The damage is not too extensive. I am planning on building it up with wood putty, then filing and sanding it as many times as necessary, then painting it and calling it good. So, after all of the effort to plan and make my miter box, I am not planning to take it on the trip to my son's house. Still, it was a fun project and someone else may be able to use the idea. I may even be able to use the miter box in the future.
Reply 11 years ago on Introduction
Any chance you could make a replacement piece? I have used "scratch-stock" but it was a small, simple piece. I have also used epoxy putty because it was in a wet environment. I realize your piece is not in that type of locale.
I continue to use epoxy because my only attempt to use wood putty did not turn out nearly as well as with the epoxy. In fact I just completed a repair on a tombstone vase. Half of the bottom piece was missing and I made it by using a file since it was much too heavy to mount on a lathe. It actually turned out well. I should have taken pictures.
Reply 11 years ago on Introduction
Thank you for the idea.
Reply 11 years ago on Introduction
In a couple of days we will be driving to our son's house where I plan to use this miter box. I may be able to post about how things worked right away. If not, it will be about ten days from now before I will be able to tell how things went.
Reply 11 years ago on Introduction
You need a smaller C-clamp! A 'quick grip' type clamp could be turned over with the bar portion down. Or drill another hole where a clamp you have will work.
11 years ago on Introduction
Great work, Phil, you publish always useful things.
Reply 11 years ago on Introduction
Thank you, Osvaldo. I expect it will require a little practice to learn to use well, but, I think the basic principles are trustworthy.
11 years ago on Introduction
Nice project, Phil, thanks.
Couple of questions:
What software did you use for the overview image?
How do you see to cut to a precise line, as you need to do when cutting moulding?
I have a neat hand miter saw that I found in the trash and rebuilt. Would be glad to make it available to you, especially if your son's houste is an hour drive north of your shop.
Reply 11 years ago on Introduction
Bill,
The overview image was done in Google Sketch-Up. If you have not used it, it is free and there are quite a number of video tutorials. I do not use it enough to learn and remember more than a few very, very basic things.
I can turn the miter box upside down so I can match cut marks scored on the molding with the path the saw blade will follow. I can also shine a flashlight through the opening made by the blade to align the marks on the molding. And, I could cut the molding a quarter inch or so long, turn the miter box over and compare the mark on the molding with the actual cut, then move the molding slightly, clamp it, and make the final cut.
I am sure there are little modifications I will make after more experience using it. I am already thinking of a couple of ways to support the end of the molding near the saw blade. One would be a pedestal that would elevate the miter box a small fraction of an inch. It would be just enough to support the end of the molding by the weight of the miter box. I have also thought about a 1/2 inch dowel that would cross between the sides of the miter box near the end to be cut. I would use a thin shim or two between the dowel and the molding to make the molding secure.
We will be driving to my son's house in Idaho on Friday. Thank you for the offer of a traditional miter box. I actually need two pieces of molding to make a total length of six or seven inches. For that I will likely need to buy an eight foot piece, so I can make quite a few mistakes until I get it right.