Introduction: Building a Geodesic Dome Greenhouse - Part 2
Here is the second video in the series of building a geodesic dome greenhouse. It covers 3 different hub designs (and failures) along with the details of how they are assembled. I’m trying not to make them too boring, but after all, it’s just a bunch of diagrams, cutting and welding. At least you can see some sparks fly! There’s a couple of bloopers at the end too!
If you missed the first video in the series, you can find it here: https://www.instructables.com/id/Building-a-Geodesic-Dome-Greenhouse-Part-1/
Below is the transcript from the video:
In this video I will discuss the hub design for this dome and the next video in the series will detail the strut design. This is 3V 3/8th dome so it will require a total of 46 hubs consisting of twenty-five 6-way, six 5-way and fifteen 4-way hubs that will be used along the base. Because of the large span, this dome is going to need a hub that can withstand a great deal of compression force. Plus, it must be able to withstand the downward force from heavy snow loads during the winter.
The first hub design had hanger bolts anchored into the end of each strut. The end of each bolt would go through a hole in a piece of schedule 40 3-1/2” steel pipe which was used at the hub. The strut was tightened to the hub with a washer and nut. This is the first prototype using the hanger bolt method and a PVC hub. The triangulation between each section was extremely strong. When I created a full scale prototype, the leverage of a full length strut and removal of the triangulated pieces cause the hanger bolts to easily pull out of the end of the struts.
The second hub design was similar to the hanger bolt design, except a hole was drilled through the strut and a washer and nut was inserted. This was to create enough surface area to prevent the bolt from pulling through the wood. However, testing a full scale prototype proved to be too much force against the strut and the bolt acted as a level and split the wood.
The third hub design is completely different. The strut is sandwiched between two spokes. Flat bar-stock is welded to the hub at the appropriate angles and a bolt is placed through the top spoke, through the strut and fastened with a nut under the bottom spoke. This full-scale prototype shows how 4 spokes of a 6 spoke hub would be assembled. A load test shows it can support my body weight on only 4 spokes, plus none of the other struts are used to strengthen the legs. There was some slight bending of the bolts from my bouncing but there was no hardware failure. Regardless, the final design will use 3/8th inch bolts instead of 5/16th.
The central hub is made from 3 ½” galvanized rigid conduit which is about ¼” thick. The conduit is cut into 3 ½” lengths. The galvanized zinc is ground off wherever the spokes are to be welded. Please note that working with galvanized material, especially using abrasion cutting equipment or welding should be done in a well-ventilated area. Also, you should always wear gloves and safety glasses.
I made up a jig that will safely hold the bar stock to the drill press. It allows me to consistently drill a pilot hole in the same location near the end of the stock. Since I have 480 holes to drill, creating jigs and templates is crucial for building an accurate hub. Once the pilot holes are drilled, I switch over to a stepped bit that will finish the hole at the proper size. I then flip the piece over and gently remove any tear-out from the bottom of the hole. Once the holes are in the end of the stock, I then cut it to the correct lengths. I built a stop for my abrasion saw so I could cut each piece to the same length. After cutting off the ends, I can go back to the drill press and drill a new set of holes for the next set of spokes.
Now it’s time to start assembling! This template has markings on it so I know where the locations are for the 5 spoke or 6 spoke hubs. I just place the hub over the template and draw a small mark on the hub.
This jig is used to accurately weld the spokes to the hub. The hub is placed over the post and each spoke is held in place with a pin. By using this jig, I can weld a complete hub in less than 15 minutes.
All the pieces are welded together with a standard MIG welder. Another safety note: Please weld in a well-ventilated area and free from items that can catch on fire. Also wear the appropriate gear to avoid burns from the hot metal and use a welding helmet to prevent blindness. Keep fire suppression equipment nearby at all times. No one else should be in the area while using a welder.
When each hub is complete, any dirt and rust is removed by sandblasting and is then painted with cold-galvanizing paint to prevent future rusting. I hope you enjoyed this video on making a hub for the geodesic dome. The next video will show how the struts are made. Thanks for watching!
9 Comments
8 years ago on Introduction
Why the geodesic shape?
Doesn't it needs more material than the house shape?
Best regards.
9 years ago on Introduction
Love the last part with the mistakes. Great way to learn. I think watching others mistakes is also useful. Thanks for that too!
12 years ago on Introduction
As a passing thought:
Your green house at even that size will (never is a BIG word!) Never have to withstand the same forces you are applying to it by standing on it.
Once constructed it will distribute the force around the shell spreading the weight.
My 19mm (3/4 inch) steel tubes will stand by weight as long as I stand at the joints easily - 200 pounds!
Your 2 x 2 would be much stiffer than the steel tube it's self is.
As a small issue because your frame is only a partial sphere it's strength will be much aided when the frame is anchored to the ground. The stresses are then transferred to the ground very effectively and you can afford to make the struts MUCH lighter so letting more light. My wood dome above has struts that are only 15 mm x 10 mm (that's just under 3/4 inch by just under 1/2 an inch) this proved to stand up well but the weight of the plants hanging on the frame + the exceptional snow fall we had this year did eventually cause it to break.
1.5 inch square would more than likely be plenty heavy enough for your purpose. and would reduce the weight and cost significantly.
You know about the desert domes site of course!
Reply 12 years ago on Introduction
Thanks for the feedback. I was 100% confident that it could hold my weight. It's the building official I had to convince. Without a real snow load calculation, he wanted to see how the hubs could support an uneven weight.
The dome will be anchored into a concrete foundation (required for building code) so I'm not worried!
desert domes = yup! I found another site that has better calculations. It's in Russian, but it's done very well. I'll post the link on my next video.
12 years ago on Introduction
I have a 30 foot dome I built several years ago and have used as a green house. It's built from 19 mm Steel tubing and joined with a simple 10 mm hole in the end of each strut. A bolt through joins the flattened and over lapped tubes together.
The difficulty has been attaching the polythene to the frame and I have made several approached to this.
As I have less space now I built a wood 9 foot green house last year and covered in in Saran wrap (cling film) It stood quite well to high winds and snow.
But I will cut all of the steel tubes in Half to make 2 15 foot green houses joined into a long tunnel. As you must know by now the hard part is ventilating the greenhouse to avoid over heating so allow for some opening windows.
Reply 12 years ago on Introduction
Very cool! I like the Saran wrap idea....surprised it doesn't degrade from the UV.
Reply 12 years ago on Introduction
Lasted 18 months easily - High wind and snow did for it in the end but it was cheap enough to replace anyway.
12 years ago on Introduction
Question, while it does use more material, would it be easier to assemble/repair if you use an angled 'U' bracket/plate bolted onto the hub instead of two welded on plates.
You'd be using the same flat stock but have four holes and two bends instead of the cut an welded pieces.
Reply 12 years ago on Introduction
I'm sure you could use this method. My colleagues and I had discussed building some. I don't have a break that would be strong enough to bend the steel. And, as you said, it would use more material and need more holes (and bolts). Since I have a MIG welder, it seemed like the best solution. Thanks.