Building a Keg Still (Bokakob Design, Reflux Still)




Introduction: Building a Keg Still (Bokakob Design, Reflux Still)

About: One day I shall own a Delorean.

Building a Keg based reflux still using the bokakob design, with some modifications courtesy of the distilling community.

Before you start check the laws in your local area, some places you cant even own a still let alone use it to make a drinkable product, check it out first. I know in New Zealand you can make your own booze and in the UK you can have a still that makes up to 5L if you have a permit.

I wanted to have a go at making my own spirits, Rum, spiced rum, vodka, schnapps whatever took my fancy really and to do this I knew I needed a still, now there is very cheap and easy to make stills out there, you can connect a copper coil to a stockpot and put the coil in water and off you go, this is known as a Pot Still, a very crude one but it will work, just not very efficiently.

I wanted to get the best out of my still, plus I like the challenge or building something new and something that looks cool, and it's nice to say "I own a still"

the following instructable comes from weeks of research in to making stills, running them and making actual drink able products.

I have attached an image of the original Bokakob still design, but in summary it's a large copper pipe with 2 plates near the top at a 30 degree angle with a copper condenser coil at the top which water runs through to cool the valorised alcohol which then drips down hits the plates and then it can be collected.

for those that don't know what a reflux still does, basically it allows the alcohol to be re circulated around the column each time it drips back down the center it picks up more alcohol from the vapour which means you get a much purer product that from a pot still. having said that sometimes you need a pot still to keep the flavour of what you produce, the Bokakob design allows you to run it both as a reflux still and a pot still.

during my research I found this animation of the bokakob design working, check it out.

also there is a ton of information out there on this still design, but you have to take it all with a pinch of salt and work out what is good or not.

with this still we should be able to produce around 90% pure alcohol if not more, about 3 litres from a 20L fermented mix, also known as WASH or MASH, the wash should be around 14% alcohol by the time its finished fermenting, more if you use turbo yeast, it really depends on the recipe.

you can get so much information from the home distillers website, they have some great recipes and information on their site and on their forum.

if you need more information on the bokakob still design check this wiki out

Step 1: Tools and Materials

OK so here is your list of materials, I will be following what most of the guys in the distilling community recommend which is a 2 inch column, here in the UK that is 54mm, and its expensive to buy so I didn't want to make too big a column.

you should use as much copper as possible, as the copper removes a lot of the impurity's from the alcohol as its produced.


Hack Saw


6mm drill bit

Blow torch

heat mat for soldering copper

a metal file

spanners and grips

Gloves (very important)


tape measure / ruler

6mm pipe bending spring

15mm copper/steel pipe to wind condenser coil around.

32mm PVC pipe for winding the coil around.

Materials for the still
Lead free Solder

Flux for pipe work

54mm (2 inch) length of copper pipe, I bought might at a small local independent plumbing store, 1 meter long cost me about £24

54mm copper end cap, got at the same place I got the pipe from, cost about £12

6mm copper pipe, 7.5 meters from eBay cost me £18.99, plumbing shops doing tend to stock this, but you might be able to get it from car part suppliers as they use it for brake linings.

6mm needle valve, got this on eBay too for £11.99 which i thought was expensive

a few small pieces of scrap copper pipe to make plates out of

hose tap connector

food thermometer

copper scourers, make sure they are copper and not copper plated otherwise they will rust inside the still, check them with a magnet if you have to. you can use stainless steel scourers in a pinch, but the more copper you use the better. I got mine at a pound store, the local supermarkets didn't stock them and they turned out to be copper coated. so I gave up and used stainless steal I just ran boiling water over them in the sink to get rid of the oils.

a stainless steel keg 50L, you must buy this legally

a 2 inch tri-clamp also known as a tri clover clamp

Equipment For Making the Spirits and Fermenting
Fermentation Vessel, I'm using a 25L tub bought from a local store


Test flask

Alcoholmeter, make sure it's one for sprits

Wine Siphon

18 inch plastic spoon

Airlock valve and rubber bungs

materials for cleaning the still
5kg sugar

Baker's yeast


yeast nutrient

sterilising compound


dish soap


NOTE:  making alcohol is dangerous and can cause serious side effects, you should read up on whats safe and not safe at

Step 2: Terminology

ok just going to run over some terminology I have learned from the various distiller forums and community's.

Wash or Mash : the mix of sugar / fruit / vegetables / grain, yeast water and nutrients which is fermented to produce your starting alcohol. in beer making its called wort.

SG : Specific gravity, this is measured using a hydrometer using this you can calculator your starting ABV from that you can work out how much you will finally get.

ABV : alcohol by volume, measured using a alcohol meter, it can be calculated using the SG click here for a calculator

The Column : this is the 54mm (2 inch) copper pipe we will be using, you can use other sizes but I will be using this.

The Head : this is the top part of the column which holds the plates and condenser coil, this could be made separately from the main part of the column but for mine I am making them all part of the same piece.

Boka : this is just a short term for Bokakob Still, which comes from the original designer of this method.

Step 3: Making the Plates and Fitting Them

we need to make our plates and fit them, according to the designs they should be at a 30 degree angle and cover just over half the width of the still.

One plate on each side of the still and they are 1 inch apart, one of these plates needs to have a tab which will be bent downwards, this will mean that the alcohol that overflows the plate will be directed down the center of the still and not just run down the sides. we want it to run down the center so it picks up more alcohol from the vapour going up the column.

check out this handy diagram

when you get your 54mm pipe it might not be a straight cut so trim a little of each end to make sure its level.

to know where to cut your 30 degree cuts you need to know what size condenser coil you are going to make, for this one I am making an 8 inch coil so I measure down 8 inches on my 54mm pipe form one end, your top plate should be about 1 inch down from the end of the coil. Measure down 1 inch from your 8 inch line and this is where the first cut should be made.

the second plate should be at least 1 inch apart from the top plate, someone on homedistiller made a template for the 54mm still and you can download it here. the original page is here and has a lot of information on the boka design.

Ok when you cut your slate holes, DO NOT USE A MITRE SAW, I did and though it gave me the right angle I needed the cut was too wide and I had to use 3 plates in each cut to plug the gap, the blade from the mitre saw also bent my 54mm pipe a little on the cut, which was annoying and it can't bend it back and make it look good :-( , most distillers use a Dremmel or a hacksaw and file to make it wide enough for the plates.

you will also have to drill 2 holes one on each side that will accommodate the 6mm copper pipe, one below the top plate at the back so you can insert your thermometer. And one above the bottom plate which will be used to output your alcohol. drill these holes before fitting the plates.

once you have your cuts you will need copper plates to go in to them, if you used the template before then there is templates on there for the plates as well.

to get a copper sheet get couple of pieces of copper pipe and cut along the length and wearing gloves bend them out and hammer them flat.

I then pushed this sheet in the cut in the 54mm pipe and then using a pencil drew around the pipe on to the sheet, then I roughly cut the sheet, pushed it in to the cut and filed it flat to the pipe, if all has gone well this should be a tight fit.

when you cut the bottom plate make sure you cut a longer bit in the middle for the tab so the liquid can drip down, you will see what I mean in my pictures. I used tin snips to roughly cut mine.

now all you have to do is put some flux on and solder the plate in place using lead free solder and a blow torch, you will have to excuse my soldering this is the first time I have ever done it so I was learning as I went.

you want to make sure there is no leaks in your joints, they should be air/water tight. it also pays to clean the plates before fitting them, look at the pictures to see the state of the pipe I had on the inside.

clean up the joints with a file and some sandpaper.

Step 4: Winding the Condenser Coil

ok, so we need to make a condenser coil, now the original Boka still was a single coil, since then other distillers have found a double coil to be more effective.

a double coil is a smaller coil inside a larger coil.

ok so I had to work out how I would make the coil so that it would fit, i knew the diameter of the pipe I was using to make the coil, 6mm, and the internal diameter of the column, 50mm. the coil should be made in such a way that it fits inside the column but without touching the sides. I planned to wrap the outer coil around a pipe of 32mm copper pipe that and 6mm copper pipe x 2 = 42mm perfect.

the inner coil would then have to fit inside the PVC pipe with room to spare, the inner diameter of the PVC pipe is 30mm, so a piece of 15mm copper pipe fitted the bill, 15mm plus 6mm x 2 for the copper pipe = 27mm also perfect.

we start off by making the smaller coil, the inner coil, to do this we have to wrap the 6mm copper tube around a form, e.g. a 15mm copper pipe in my case. be careful when starting it off you need to leave enough to go out the top about 5 inches long. also when starting off take it slow, you don't want to kink the pipe, I did a little but it hasn't restricted the flow too much, if I find later it has I will have to make a new coil. when winding your coil make sure you leave a gap between turns, we want to allow the vapour to get between so it can cool on the coil.

Coil length, 8 inches in my case which is what everyone seems to say is best for this type of still, you can make it to 5 inches if you're making a smaller column but if you can make it 8 inches or more.

once the inner coil is to the length you want slide your PVC pipe over and start winding the outer coil around it when you get to the end leave 5 inch's and cut it, bend it so both ends of the coil are facing upwards using a bending spring you don't want to put a kink in it now.

you should be able to slide the copper tube out easily, the PVC pipe you may have to pull out with pliers.

check out this forum post on winding the perfect coil, click here

Step 5: Preparing the End Cap and Attaching the Coil

ok you need to attach your coil but before you can do that you need to drill some 6mm holes, 2 for your coil and 3 for vents, that's right vents, this will allow pressure to escape from the column, you don't want it to build pressure as it could explode.

once your holes are cut, push the ends of the coil through the end cap and solder them in place, you need to do this so that the coil is as level as possible, so you might want to rest the coil on something that will not burn, I used my tin snips. don't forget to use plenty of flux.

once its soldered, file it to clean it up and sand it to look good.

while you have the blow torch out you may want to attach a short piece about 1cm long of 6mm pipe in to the hole below the top plate and also a piece about 5cm long bent in to a curve for harvesting the alcohol which will be attached above the bottom plate facing down towards the bottom of the column.

once the coil was attached to the cap and cleaned up I bent over  the coil ends so they faced downwards, this is so that when we attach the water hoses to the coil they won't be bent over and kink and restrict the water flow.

Step 6: Fitting the Valve and Thermonitor

the valve I'm going to be fitting used a compression fitting on both ends, for those who don't know how these work, there is a nut and inside that is a brass olive, when the nut is done up with the pipe inside the olive is compressed on to the pipe making a water tight seal.

so its simple, slide the copper pipe in to the fitting on one end then holding the body of the valve with the plumbers grips just tighten the nut up using the adjustable spanner until its tight enough that you can't pull the valve off.

Step 7: Making the Flange (Easy Flange)

you need to create a flange so you can  fit the column to the keg, for this you will need a hammer and an anvil or something to hit the copper against. this is called an "easy flange"

we need to bend over the edges of the pipe by about 6mm so they are at a 45 degree angle to the pipe but you can't do this all in one go it has to be done gradually.

you want to start off tapping it with the hammer while turning the pipe we are aiming for a small angle all the way around.

all you have to do is keep turning and tapping until you have the 45 degree angle, just do it slowly and take your time.

once you have your 45 degree angle you need to build up a slope around the edge, this is so that when you do up the tri clamp it will push the column down on to the gasket we will create later on creating a seal between the keg and the column so no vapour escapes.

to do this you need to build up a level of solder, make sure you flux the area before you start, dont hold the blow torch directly on the solder otherwise it will just pool up and roll off you want to heat it until the solder melts then pull the torch away and wait a second and do it again with fresh solder. use a cake time or baking tray to put the column on to protect your work surface.

once you have the right amount of solder built up let it cool and file it so you have the correct angle for the slope, you will also need to file the edges so that its nice and round and level with the flange on the keg.

you also need to file the bottom of the flange as this will have hammer dents in it, you need this to be smooth to create the best seal on the gasket between the keg and column.

Step 8: Preparing the Keg

I got my keg form Crusader Kegs and Casks here in the UK I got a brand new one for £72 including delivery.

you should buy your keg, DO NOT go to a pub and ask them for one, buying one from a pub is not legal as the kegs belong to the brewery and not to the pub. A brewery is unlikely to sell you one you will have to find a company they reconditions kegs or makes them.

At this point if you have decided to heat your keg using propane, your done, I would however advise caution if you're using propane or natural gas to heat your keg, not only is it hard to control the temp using gas but it's dangerous. Most still accidents happen when using propane or natural gas because the alcohol vapour is heavier than air and if you have a leak the vapour builds up and ignites on the open flame and BOOM!

the safer option is to use an electric heating element inside the keg for this you will have to drill the keg and then weld on a flange or socket for your element, having said that there are bolt on flanges/sockets but you would have to use a natural cork gasket made form a cork sheet.

You will need to drill a hole in the keg, in the UK the hole size for the flange would be 64mm this size would fit an immersion heater element, in the US I think the elements are smaller so you may need to install more than one. Drilling for the US ones use a conical drill bit. for the UK use a 64mm hole cutter drill bit, make sure it's one for use on metal as pictured. the flange nut is a 2.25 BSP flange nut which is the correct size for a UK immersion heater element.

before you drill anything you need to measure up and mark out where you want to drill your hole, it needs to be as low as possible in the keg, and between the 2 handles on the keg so you don't knock it about when moving it.

using a straight edge, ideally a square, measure down from the handle and make a pencil mark, then roll the keg and make another mark down from the other handle, both should be at the bottom of the keg.

using some masking tape and some string, tape the string to the first marker then pull the string tight to the second mark and cut it, fold it in half and pull it tight against the keg with it still taped in place, and mark where the middle of the string is, this is the middle mark between the handles.

measure up and mark out the width of your flange/socket, also mark the middle marker. I drew around my flange and just marked out the middle.

to get the seal on the flange, as I am using a larger flange than the US, I needed the area to be as flat as possible so I placed a wooden block on the area I wanted to flange to go and gave it a few whacks with a club hammer to flatten the area out.

OK we need to drill the hole before you do this place a center punch on the middle marker and give it a hard whack with a hammer, this dent will keep your drill bit from slipping.

Step 9: Wiring/Controlling the Element

you can't just use the element from an immersion heater as it is, it's designed to cut off before boiling point which is not what we want, we want to be able to control it using a dial or a knob. to do this you need to disable the thermal probe and wire in a Phase Angle controller.

Disabling the thermal probe and removing it is easy enough just unhook the wires and pull out the probe.

Get yourself a phase angle controller with a Triac, I go mine from china for about £5 inc shipping, it took a couple of weeks to turn up but it was way cheaper than buying one here in the UK, just make sure your controller can handle the watts your element can draw, my element is 2800W and the controller I got can handle 3800W. follow the instructions you get with your controller on how to wire it up. if you can get one that has its own casing then that's great, I'm still looking for one for mine, may have to get a project box form

if your searching ebay for the controller, search for Voltage Regulator

make sure you use cable that can support the number of amps your heater will be drawing, in the UK 16A is what you need to be able to handle, I went to a plumbing shop and got some cable rated for immersion heaters.

Step 10: Optional Output Cooling

this part is optional it's called a Liebig and it cools the output from the still this makes it easier to measure the alcohol level coming out of the still without having to compensate for the temp the liquid is.

if you don't want to do this bit just use a length of 6mm copper pipe to channel the output.

to make the Liebig you need a 50cm length of pipe, I'm using 22mm, and a couple of end caps, and some 15mm pipe.

drill a 6mm hole in the center of each end cap and drill 2 holes in the side of the 22mm copper pipe about 1.5 inches down from the each end.

solder the end caps on and 2 x 15mm pieces over the holes in the side.

cut a 75cm length of 6mm pipe and push it through the end caps so you have about 10cm sticking out one end and solder it in place, you need to make sure your joints are water tight as we will be running water through the Liebig to cool the 6mm pipe which in turn will cool the liquid that goes through it, this is surprisingly effective.

now take a 10 cm length of 15mm pipe and older it to the side of the Liebig at a 45 degree angle to the water inputs and outputs.

bend the 10cm piece of 6mm pipe sticking out the Liebig so it fits in to the needle valve and solder the 15mm pipe (10 cm long one) to the column, this will keep the Liebig at a steady slope down from the column.

bend the remaining 6mm pipe out the other end of the lie big so its shaped to catch the output and go out over the keg.

Step 11: Attaching the Column to the Keg

As I have said in previous steps you will need a 2 inch tri clamp to connect your column to the keg, this is also known as a tri clover clamp.

you will also need a gasket to go between the column and the keg to make an air tight seal so no vapours can escape, you can buy PTFE gaskets but they are designed for the proper 2 inch ferrules that have a special dent in them for the gasket and as such you will have to remove the ridge from the gasket for it to work with your column.

I bought one of these gaskets and removed the ridge using a hobby knife very carefully so I didn't remove wanted fingers.

I then wrapped it in PTFE tape so it would create a better seal, you don't have to have the gasket to do this you could use a ring cut out of card and then cake it in PTFE tape to make the gasket.

once you have your gasket all you need to do is put the gasket on the top of the keg flange and hold your column on top while you put on the tri clamp, not easy on your own but I do it so it can be done.

Step 12: Plumbing It In

you need to add your pipes, I used garden hose and some clear PVC pipe I had.

Attach a hose that goes to your water supply to the bottom of the Liebig.

Attach a hose from the top of the Liebig to the inlet on the condenser coil.

then finally attach a hose to the outlet of the condenser coil and put the other end where the water can drain off.

Don't forget to use hose clips for keeping the hoses on.

Step 13: Cleaning Mixes for the Still

we need to make sure the still is clean so we dont get funny tastes of flux and other stuff still in the column.

I'm following the recommendations I found on this forum post, it makse the most sense.

1) clean with soapy water

2) rinse with plain water

3) use vinegar and water mix in the still and boil it to produce an acidic vapour

4) alcohol cleaning run, twice, this involves making a cheap wash that will produce alcohol, we will not be able to drink this so basically they suggest making up something that is cheap, I used a basic mix which I will detail below.

You could buy some cheap wine and use that to clean the still or you can make the following wash.

cheap cleaning wash, you can use this as a practice run for your recipes

5kg cheap sugar
2 packets of dry baker's yeast
50g of yeast nutrient
boiled water, to kill any bugs in the water so the wash doesn't go mouldy

ok start off with cleaning everything using steriliser, fermentation vassal, spoon, airlock, hydrometer

boil up some water, I filled the kettle and 2 saucepans, put the boiled water in your fermentation vassal and start to pour in your sugar, you need to dissolve all the sugar, and keep adding boiled water until you reach the 20L mark on your vessel.

let the wash cool down to about 23 degrees C, the reason for this is if it's too high it will just kill the yeast, yeast will die at 40 degrees, and if you're using it above 26 degrees C you will stress the yeast out and it will produce more ester, methanol (bad alcohol, you can't drink it, in fact it's dangerous to humans) and what they call fuser oils.

To produce the good alcohol, most yeasts have to be below  26 degrees and for them to replicate they need to be around 23 - 26 degrees. however if you're using a brewing yeast read the packet as there are some yeasts that can operate at higher temperatures.

so what is fermentation? well basically it's when the yeast breaks down the sugars and turns them in to other substances like CO2 and Alcohol, now these sugars can be pure sugar like we are using in the cleaning wash, or they can be provided by fruits, vegetables or even grains.

whiskey and bourbon are made using grain, so is moonshine (normally horse grain), schnapps is made with fruits like apples / pears / peaches, and vodka can be made out of near enough anything as it's a neutral spirit e.g. a tasteless spirit, well in the US it is, in the UK and Europe it has a tiny bit of flavour.

ok so while you are waiting for your wash to cool down add the yeast nutrient and mix it, take some of the wash and put it in a glass and put the glass in a bucket of cold water to cool it quicker until its 23 degrees C or less, then take it out of the water and add 2 packets of baker's yeast (or brews yeast if you like) mix it up.

This is called a yeast starter, sometimes these are prepared a few days before you want to start your main wash, the key is to make your start wash the same as the main wash as the yeast learns to feed on different sugars, it takes 7 generations for it to learn properly which is why it's important to make your starter exactly the same as your main wash. the purpose of this is to give the yeast a head start.

once your main wash is at 23 degrees C you can add your yeast starter, I'm not too bothered that I haven't waited a few days before adding it as this is just a cleaning mix. give it a good stir, you want to distribute that yeast throughout the mix.

at this point the SG should be about 1.100 and this mix is spot on using the hydrometer to measure it.

pop the lid on and seal it, you should fit an airlock to the lid so the gases can escape but the air can't get in, I put some Vaseline around the edge of the bung to make sure it was air tight.

here is a video of me checking the SG of the wash, now I say in the video the SG at the end should be 90 which is 1.090 on the hydrometer in the blue area, I realised after recording this I was wrong it should be below 1.000 so between 1.000 and 0.900 which is near the top in the yellow section, which means that all the sugar has been converted to alcohol.

I also did a test with just water which you can see here, just so you can see the difference.

during the fermentation process you need to make sure the temperature stays around 23 degrees C, if you find its getting warmer than that put it in a container of water, if it's still getting to warm try putting a little ice in the water.

if you find it getting to cold then you can do the same put in an aquarium heater in the container and set the temp on it to 23 degrees C or whatever your yeast needs to be.

Step 14: Running the Cleaning Mixes Through the Still

first off run your vinegar mix, make sure you have enough to cover the element and then a few more inches above it, you need to run your boiler at full power until the column temp reaches 40 degrees C then reduce it to half power and turn the water on to your condenser coil, make sure the needle valve on the out let is open and a bucket is under the take off pipe.

once the column reach's about 91.3 degrees you will start to see water coming out of the still, run it like this for a couple of hours.

let it cool and empty out the boiler.

put in your alcohol for the cleaning run, run at half power to start with until the column is at 40 degrees C then reduce it to a quarter and turn on the water to the condenser coil.

when the column gets to 78 degrees C you will start to see alcohol come out, DO NOT DRINK THIS it will have all the oils and fluxes in it from when it was built.

That's it your done, its ready to use normally, for whatever purposes you choose.

The Copper scrubbers can be put inside the column to aid with reflux and they are known as packing, as the alcohol drips down its gets caught up in the copper pads and the rising vapour picks up more alcohol on the way up, using the scrubbers you can produce up to about 95% ABV alcohol if you have it refluxing right.

Packing is placed below the plates, if you have a look at the following diagram shows how its placed.

without the packing it can still be run, this is known as Pot Still mode and is useful if you want to produce a spirit with flavour such as Rum or Whiskey. with the packing thats in reflux mode and this is for producing a Nuteural spirit e.g. vodka

Step 15: Update

I will put some updates here on what I have learned since doing this which may help you.

I found some 100% copper scrubbers, they are a make called Chore Boy, I think they are from the US see the picture below.

also since making this column I have since scrapped it and made a new one with a detachable head, i just put an easy flange on both ends of a 1 meter piece of 2" pipe, attached that to the still with the scrubbers in it. then I made a short head with the plates in it and an easy flange on it to attach to the other pipe. I just have to make the lie big and the valve and I am ready to go. Makes it easier to clean. I will take pics when its finished.

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    6 years ago

    I am in New Zealand, and its not nice, its "bloody awsum mate" as we would say. We have many many rules, laws and regulations that permit this and many other things, we are truly for the people by the people, not just words on paper but truly in practice. Police don't carry guns! We can grow our own tobacco too, brew anything we want, but for our own consumption only, and on our own property, and in maximum quantities that no one can consume in a year! One thing we are very proud of too, as a side, is that we have government legislation that makes us totally nuclear free, free of anything nuclear, no power, no bombs, and was the 1st and only country to do so. It is a thorn in USA's side as we will not permit nuke powered vessels into our waters, so no war games with USA... One problem we do have here is getting hold of an old keg, as the are all owned by the brewing companies...


    Reply 4 years ago

    But weed... still illegal here.


    Reply 6 years ago

    you should be able to buy a new one, here in the UK most kegs are owned by the brewerys but you can buy new ones which is what I have done and you can also buy full ones from the cash and carry, you have to empty them though... shame lol I got a cash and carry one from a local social club who bought one when they ran out of stock but then they were stuck with the empty. gave em £10 for it and cut the top off and its now my mash tun ;-)


    Question 4 years ago

    Great Instructable thank you for sharing your hard work. Can I ask how you attach the Immersion Heater to the Keg, where does the 2 1/4 BSP nut come into the equation ? Do you get it on the inside somehow and screw the heater into it ?


    6 years ago

    Does the curled part of immersion heater element come up or down?


    Reply 6 years ago

    doesn't matter, as long as its not making contact with the side/bottom


    6 years ago

    Great build good instructions will be using propane burner for heating instead of electric .I will be using it in West Africa runs great got 181 proof out of it with some practice


    Reply 6 years ago

    awesome, you can get really high yields from it if its run correctly, most you will likely be able to get is 96% so around 192 proof


    Reply 6 years ago

    I would like to build something bigger now I have 4 if this model and 4 two inch pot still type a 3or4 in column would be interesting to do


    6 years ago

    Does the steam escape through the ventilation hole?


    Reply 6 years ago

    no, it condenses before it gets that far as long as the water is running through the coil, its just a precaution to prevent pressure build up


    6 years ago

    Is that valve actually a needle valve or is it just a bog-standard ball valve / isolation valve?

    Also is it fine to use plated brass at this stage? I'm assuming the answer is yes but best to check. Most resources seem to say only 304 Stainless and copper to come in to contact with the product?


    Reply 6 years ago

    its a needle valve, you have much more control with a needle valve than a ball valve.

    stick to solid brass, brass is ok as long as its lead free brass. i wouldn't use plated brass, you dont know what materials were used in the plating process or the underlying material. use brass or stainless steel, if you can find a needle valve in copper then use that.


    Reply 6 years ago

    I only ask because I cannot find anywhere a needle valve like that. It looks like one of these- which is a readily available ball valve?

    I would expect a needle valve to have a knob as it would be several turns to close? I've never seen a ball valve with a lever like that one.

    Is the one you're using a 180 degree close or several turns? If it is several turns where did you get it and how much did you pay? The only stainless and un-plated brass ones I can find are quite pricey.

    I mean it doesn't matter I just want to try and replicate what you have as closely as possible as it obviously works and will be easier to troubleshoot if anything goes wrong.


    6 years ago

    Great. I feel a bit stupid for not thinking of that.

    I managed to get a Bookers card and I've found that seems to be the cheapest place to get molasses.

    7.257kg for £12.75.

    If I were to use half that container and make the extra 400g up with white sugar or cane sugar do you think that would be okay? It would just mean I could get two runs from one carton.


    Reply 6 years ago

    I buy my molasses from ebay i get the gold label one, they use it as horse feed but its just plain molasses with no additives so its fine to use as it will be distilled and not consumed directly.

    I normally get about 4 runs out of it. the stuff you are looking at is really really thick stuff and expensive. the Rum flavour comes from the Molasses, the alcohol content comes from the sugar you add and whats in the molasses. you probably could make up the shortfall with sugar not sure how much difference to the flavour that would make though.


    Reply 6 years ago

    Understood. Ordered now.

    I'll let you know how it goes. If it goes well I'll upgrade to reflux column and try vodka.


    Reply 6 years ago

    its cheaper than food grade molasses and its fine for distilling.


    Reply 6 years ago

    you can use other brands but check they are just molasses and they don't have additives in them.