Dog Poop Deterrent--No Longer Recommended

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Introduction: Dog Poop Deterrent--No Longer Recommended

I had recommended hot pepper as a non-toxic dog deterrent. Recent reports indicate that it can actually be harmful to dogs. There may be ways to use it safely, but until I learn more about the problems that have been reported, I'm recommending against doing this, and leaving this instructable up only to help spread the word about the problems.

Hot peppers are a well known approach to deterring dogs from relieving themselves where you don't want to step in it. It's effective, and I thought it was no more toxic to dogs than it is to people. But that may not be true.

The idea of this instructable was to help keep the pepper in place--if you just sprinkle Tabasco sauce or cayenne powder, it's likely to wash away (if it's rainy) or blow away (if it's not). My solution was to mix cayenne powder with oil, and dribble that on the ground around the area you want to protect. The oil not only helps prevent the rain from washing it away (and the wind from blowing it away), but it also helps bring out the capsaicin, the active chemical in hot peppers, which is soluble in oil but not in water.

It worked for us to solve a regular problem, and lasted through at least several days of very heavy rain.

We never had any indication that it was harming dogs or wildlife. My assumption was that the dogs were using their noses to avoid it, and were not eating it. And that even if they did, it would be unpleasant and not harmful. As a regular consumer of a lot hot peppers myself, I didn't think there was potential for real harm. Unlike a chemical burn, the "burn" of hot pepper is a perceptual trick, not a result of physical harm. But this seems to have been wrong...I'll add more information here as I learn more.

Step 1: Ingredients

There are just two ingredients: cayenne powder and vegetable oil. If you have cayenne that has been sitting around for a long time, it might have lost strength. It can't hurt to go ahead and try it, but you might need some fresh stuff.

If you buy cayenne in fancy bottles, it can be pretty expensive, as much as $75 per pound , including shipping. But if you buy it from the bulk section of a grocery store, or in bulk packs with free shipping from Amazon, it can be less than 1/10 the price. Avoid getting too large a package, because its strength will decay with time after the package is opened. Two 1-lb. packages from Amazon for $14.24 seems like a great deal, if you are serious about this. Each pound is good for dozens of applications. Or you could opt for the organic variety .

For oil, you could use any vegetable oil you have handy. I used mustard oil , because I had a bottle of it around, and I thought it might help deter dogs. (I bought it for cooking, but haven't used for cooking after reading about occasional problems with it being mixed with Argemone mexicana oil , which is toxic, and because the bottles you can buy in the US are labeled for external use only, it's hard to be confident that it has been carefully prepared to food-grade standards. But I digress--any vegetable oil will work.

The wildflowers aren't needed for anything, but why not? Anything's better with wildflowers.

Step 2: Mix

Consider wearing gloves--the cayenne probably won't hurt your hands, but if you get it on your hands and then accidentally rub your eyes or touch more sensitive skin, and you might wish you'd had gloves on to remind you.

Mix three parts of oil to two parts of cayenne.  I used 3 fluid ounces of oil with a quarter cup of cayenne.  The proportions are not critical –you can simply eyeball it by first putting the cayenne in a jar, and then filling with oil until it comes up about twice as far as the cayenne did alone (as shown left).  Use an glass jar with a lid that caps tightly so you can shake it to mix.

Step 3: Dribble in the Problem Area

A good strategy is to dribble a line that completely encircles the area of interest, and then a little scattered inside.

When you are done, wash your hands well, especially if you haven't worn gloves, before you accidentally rub your eyes or touch any sensitive skin.

So far it has worked--we used to have fresh deposits in this area pretty much daily, and the only new poop we got in two weeks was about 5-6 feet away from the area I outlined.  I then made a new batch and treated that area, and zero new poop since then.   It's lasted through several days of heavy rain.  

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    16 Comments

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    francetalbot
    francetalbot

    4 months ago

    So I didn't read this article before making a pepper solution with water. I made it because a dog pooped on my lawn and the owner didn't care to clean up after it. I did not make it as potent as shown in this article. I used a large Mason jar, covered the bottom with some hot spices and filled the jar to the top with water. I watched some birds check out my lawn and it seemed to work with them so hoping it works with dogs. I hope that it doesn't harm the dog just iritates it enough to want to go away.

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    Theo Rangeman
    Theo Rangeman

    Reply 5 weeks ago

    Birds are not affected by capsaicin. The pepper plant needs birds to eat and spread their seeds. The spice is thought to have evolved to deter other animals that will digest the seeds. Nature is magic.

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    EtherealCreature1
    EtherealCreature1

    3 months ago



    **Update: Cayenne pepper didnt work on the lawn. The dog walked right thru it and up onto my patio to tear up a plant. Vinegar and lime juice on the patio didnt work. Some dogs are simply oblivious to everything.

    So why is this no longer recommended? Is it because a dog can actually taste the spray and be harmed in some way? Dogs eat any and everything they can find, dead things, garbage, etc. It cant be prevented, you'd have to have your own yard in a bare environment with nothing but rocks or sand on the ground which could be harmful as well if the dog eats some. Anything is harmful in some way. Or install a 6-foot privacy fence to keep all dogs out, which isnt very practical or a desired solution for most people.

    That being said, this is good information to have, to keep dogs out of where they dont belong. Especially on the edge of my patio to keep the next-door dog away from my patio door with the scratching, whining, barking behavior at my door trying to play with my cat. I cant put up a fence in any way, the property owner is dragging their feet about putting up a fence, so pepper spray (or citrus spray) on the edge of the patio slab and a small perimeter of it sprayed on the grass around the patio is about the only choice I have. Coffee grounds, citrus peels will create a mess, and anything to deter a dog is possibly harmful. So what choice do we have? Owners wont control or train their dog, but we have a right to have peace in our section of the property and I shouldnt have to listen to that whining and have to get up all the time to shoo the dog away from my door. I'm stuck here for the time being, but intend to move as soon as I have money to do so.

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    avars0518
    avars0518

    Tip 7 months ago

    why don't you put it with plants and help trees live! that is a good idea.

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    avars0518
    avars0518

    7 months ago

    that makes me want to go!

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    ConnieA21
    ConnieA21

    5 years ago

    Just wandering if it would if i mix the chillie in water instead of oil. As the area im trying to protect is concrete ,and im worried the oil might stain the concrete.Also prevent sealer from sticking when it needs to be sealed again?

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    AnitaW12
    AnitaW12

    6 years ago

    Can you use it on your patio??

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    LowEnergy
    LowEnergy

    Reply 6 years ago on Introduction

    Sure, I don't see any problem with using it on a patio ... might even last longer there without re-applying it.

    YAY! Thankyou! Going to try this today! I wonder if it would damage carpet? I'm in a wheelchair so I'm desperate to get on top of this!

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    caried1
    caried1

    8 years ago on Introduction

    Anything is better with wildflowers. I like your style.

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    l8nite
    l8nite

    10 years ago on Introduction

    I used a similar concoction when my dogs were pups and chewing EVERYTHING. I used a red water "hot"sauce and some (lite) cooking oil and rubbed a little onto every surface imaginable, chair legs, window sills, electrical cords, the drain for the hot water heater... they totally avoided the areas treated and were content with the large bones and hide chews I gave them. Now I keep a spray bottle full of the mix and use it to discourage digging around the pool and gardens, it also helps repel cats, squirrels, possums and other unwanted critters. I spray the perimeter of the yard and some areas inside about once a week or after a heavy rain

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    Batness
    Batness

    10 years ago on Introduction

    Awesome! Never thought of this. :P

    I wonder, how does it affect plants? I don't have a rocky yard, I have grass and vines. :P

    I also wonder if it is too thick to be "sprayed" along the edge of sidewalk/grass.

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    LowEnergy
    LowEnergy

    Reply 10 years ago on Introduction

    I don't think it would hurt plants, unless you totally coated a leaf to the point that it couldn't breath.

    I went for dribbling, not spraying. It would likely clog a spray bottle.

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    LowEnergy
    LowEnergy

    Reply 10 years ago on Introduction

    Sorry about that...at least I didn't show the actual poop!

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    wilgubeast
    wilgubeast

    10 years ago on Introduction

    Oh man. This would have been great when I was a kid responsible for taking care of the canine deposits in the back yard. There were few chores more odious than trying to scoop fresh piles out of the decorative rocks along the side of the house. A little hot sauce pretty much takes care of everything.