Fiber Optic Panel Star Ceiling

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Introduction: Fiber Optic Panel Star Ceiling

About: By day I'm the lead developer of Starfish ETL and I perform CRM data integrations. By night I enjoy building things - robotics, my home theater, flying quadcopters and finding other geeky things to do.

For my wife & I, a dream of ours has always been to have a home theater to watch movies with our family. This past winter we've finally been able to make it a reality. We had our basement finished and in doing so, I planned a good sized room to be our home theater. In the planning phases, my wife found a number of pictures online with home theaters featuring beautiful star ceilings.. These were in homes where people paid tens of thousands of dollars for their home theater - we were on a budget and I thought there was no way I would have the time or money to pay for something that cool... But the DIY'er in me wouldn't let me give up that soon! I researched these ceilings and found out it may actually possible.. However, most of the information I found online were for building these ceilings in rooms where you have attic access, like this article. The manufacturer's site gives some ideas about building the ceiling with standard drywall - but lifting heavy drywall into place was not my idea of fun.. nor did it seem the most appropriate method for a basement. So with a little determination and experimentation I was able to build a beautiful star ceiling that really sets this room apart from anything you've seen. And it's really something you have to experience - no picture or video will do it justice. The version of the fiber optic kit I got makes the points of light twinkle like real stars. It creates the perfect ambiance for a home theater, but you could also install these in children's rooms, game rooms, or wherever you want to create a truly impressive area.

So did I mention I did this on a budget? I won't say it's a cheap project and it'll depend on the size space you're looking to do. I did the inside area of a rather large tray ceiling.. it's only 6.5' wide but it's about 26' long - coming to about 169 sq ft. Because of the size, I went with the largest star ceiling kit available, 600 strands. All together, I estimate the entire project costed between $500-550. If you're planning on doing a smaller area, you may spend less depending on your materials and the fiber optic kit you chose. Considering the kit manufacturer also resells pre-made 4'x6' panels at $816 each, (I would have needed 6 or more),I think I made out pretty good.

However that does not take into consideration the amount of time this project took. I didn't exactly keep track but I am estimating the build was somewhere in the 30 to 40 hour range. It was definitely fun, certainly painful at times but totally worth it!

Step 1: Materials

  • Fiber Optic Star Ceiling Kit
    Perhaps the most important (and most expensive component of this project) is purchasing your fiber optic star ceiling kit. I purchased mine from Wiedamark. Use their suggestions of which kit to use based on the size area you're doing. Based on the size of my area, I went with one of their largest kits - the 600 strand 3-size star kit. This kit has 3 different sized "stars" giving a more realistic feel to the starfield. It also comes with a remote, which is nice for dimming the light output. I paid the price you see on the site, $369. Throughout this process I had a number of questions and I can't say enough nice things about the guys at Wiedamark - they are very knowledgeable and spent quite a bit of time with me on the phone giving me ideas on how to build these panels. So if you have any questions about their products don't hesitate to call.
  • 2" Foam Insulation Board
    This stuff is very light and easy to work with. You could use either the pink kind or the white kind. The pink kind may have been a little easier to work with but costed almost twice as much. I found these 4x8 sheets of expanded polystyrene on sale at Menards for about $12 each. I used 6 of them in total. You may get by with the 1 1/2" thick boards if you're careful handling them - but knowing I can be clumsy at times so I didn't want to take any chances.
  • Black Felt
    This is what will be used to cover your panel and give it a nice pitch-black night sky look. I had to use about 13 yards, which was about 1 1/3 bolts. Make sure to take your time doing the math to ensure you get the right amount. This is standard craft felt that I purchased at Jo-Ann Fabrics. They also sell a "premium felt" which was more expensive but I couldn't tell a difference. This is 100% opaque, so none of the white from the foam board bleeds through - which is what you want. I think the normal price for this felt was $5.99/yard but I found this 50% off coupon online and was able to purchase all my felt for under $40.. I thought that was a steal. The added bonus of covering your panels in felt is that it doubles as an acoustic panel - perfect for areas where you want to control sound like a home theater!
  • Spray Adhesive for Foam
    This is what you'll use to attach the felt to the foam board, giving it a nice permanent hold. You don't want your fabric to sag so this will ensure a smooth finish. Make sure to get the 3M 78 spray adhesive! It's specially made for working with polystyrene foam. Any other type of adhesive will dissolve the foam. Don't believe me? I had a can of the standard 3M Super 77 spray adhesive in my garage and sprayed a leftover peice - take a look at the picture.. It ate away at the foam and that area was not sticky at all. I also had a can of Loctite spray adhesive - it says right on the can it's safe for foam. Guess what? It's not! It did the same thing.. So please save yourself some time & frustration and just get the 3M 78 spray - I used 2 cans, they're at Menards for about $12 ea. I couldn't find it on the shelf at Home Depot.
  • White Elmers Glue
    Yep, nothing fancy here - just like the stuff you used in elementary school. This actually does create a nice strong bond for holding the fiber optic strands in place inside the foam. This is what was recommended by the folks at Wiedamark, other types of adhesive such as super glue could eat away at the strands and that wouldn't be good.
  • Paint Marker
    You want something that will show up on the black felt, this will be used to mark where your stars will go. I had a metallic Sharpie that worked just fine. You'll just want something with a fine tip, too so you don't have to try to hide those marks later.
  • Fire Retardant Spray for Fabric
    Felt is flammable & think about it - you're hanging many yards of flammable fabric on your ceiling. I don't even want to think about what would happen if it caught fire! So pleasebe responsible and don't skip this step.I only needed 1 bottle, and for only $17.99 on Amazon - I now also have peace of mind.
  • 3 1/2" Black Screws & Washers
    You'll use the screws to attach the panels to your ceiling. The washers will help create more surface area to hold the panel in place - you don't want your screws to sink into the foam and potentially have falling or uneven panels.
  • Toenail Clippers
    Pick yourself up a shiny new toenail clippers - you'll use this to trim the ends of your fiber optic strands. You'll want to make sure it's as sharp as possible to get a clean cut. This is the method recommended by the manufacturer.
  • Various Other Things
    A few tools you'll need along the way are a small screwdriver for poking holes, a saw for cutting the foam, a knife (X-Acto or box cutter), and a drill. You may also need a lint roller, scissors, a bunch of nylon zip ties, cable staples and a few pairs of disposable latex gloves.

Step 2: Trim Your Panels to Size

As the saying goes - measure twice, cut once. Really, take your time here because you want to have a nice tight fit between panels. What's nice about covering these panels with felt is that you can use it to hide small mistakes, but it's better to have none to begin with. So measure each part of your ceiling where a panel will go. Don't just assume your ceiling is perfectly square or even at both ends, most likely from one end of a room to the other things will be off by 1/4 or even 1/2 of an inch. If you don't want gaps, it'll be important to get your measurements right.

Get yourself a black Sharpie to draw your cut lines. I used a table saw with a metal blade to cut the foam. It made a bit of a mess but ultimately made a nice clean cut. You may come up with a different method for cutting the foam, this is what worked for me.

My tray ceiling width was 6.5' so I first trimmed about 1.5' off each board. I mounted the panels sideways, so 4' long. My overall ceiling length was 26' which doesn't divide evenly into 4. So rather than making another 2' panel, I took one my panels and taped a 2' wide piece to the end. The standard duct tape you see in the picture above didn't end up holding well enough. It tended to just want to peel off instead of sticking good to the foam. I instead picked up some Gorilla Tape and that did the trick.

Step 3: Wrap the Panels With Felt

Make sure you have a nice big work area and a helper - you'll definitely need a second person to help with this step to make sure you get the felt to lay nice & flat on the foam board. You may also want to wear a pair of disposable latex gloves, as this adhesive is very sticky and you don't want black felt fuzz permanently attached to your hands!

  1. First prepare a length of felt that will cover the entire board, including wrapping around the sides and then partially around the back. You want to have about 2" extra that gets wrapped around to the back. Don't use more than that or it'll cause more problems when you go to mount in your strands later. In the picture above you'll see I had an overage of closer to 8-10" - this was too much and I had to go back later and trim this off. That was not fun, so take my advice and cut it accurately before sticking it on.
  2. Now prop your board sideways like up & down. Holding your adhesive can vertically, spray the entire surface evenly. Don't be afraid to use a good amount, you don't want any bare spots or your felt will sag in those areas.
  3. Now lay the board flat with the glue side facing up. With the glue still wet, quickly take your washers a put them in all 4 corners and 2 in the middle. This number of washers worked well for me - if you're doing a full 4x8 board you may want to use more.. like another 2 in the middle of the board. The washers will get covered with the felt.
  4. With the help of a friend at each end, take a pre-cut length of felt and hold it out - stretched taut above the board. Working together in one motion, bring the felt down evenly onto the foam.
  5. Working quickly, both people should reach to the center and begin stretching the felt out to the outside edges. Work from the center out and back towards yourself until there are no air pockets, creases or bumps in the fabric.
  6. Now flip the entire board over on your work surface so that the board is upside down. Spray the sides of the board and the back around the edges. A little bit of overspray on the back is fine - this adhesive dries pretty quickly. This is the part where you want to be wearing gloves. Wrap the felt around the sides and pull tight so the felt is held nicely in place on the back.

You should now have one wrapped panel with a perfectly smooth black finish. If the areas where you placed the washers look like they're protruding a bit, feel free to push them into the foam so they are level with the rest of the surface..

Repeat for the rest of your panels.

Step 4: Separate Your Strands Into Bundles

OK - I'm just going to come out and say it - this step SUCKED more than anything else involved here. This process took me probably 4 or 5 hours. I tried a number of different approaches, and each method sucked just as much as the last. However it is necessary so here's what worked "best" for me.

  1. First figure out roughly how many strands you'll need per panel. Since one of my panels was larger than the other, it wouldn't be the same amount per each panel if I wanted to have a even disbursement of stars across the ceiling. Since I started with 600 strands, I ended up doing about 95 on 5 panels and 125 on the larger one. I say about because a few strands were broken in the process. It's going to happen. Try not to let it happen, but don't worry if you lose a few strands.. No one's going to know because it's still going to look awesome when you're done.
  2. Get yourself a large work area - each strand is between 12 and 17 feet long, depending on the kit you go with. Most of the kits come prebundled with 300 strands. Wrap the whole bundle with several zip ties to keep that grouping together and stretch them all the way out.
  3. Begin one or two at a time pulling the strands out and separating them into a new grouping. Use clamps or books or whatever you have at your disposal to keep them in a nice straight line throughout this process.
  4. It works best to pull from one end and just get one at a time all the way out, then put it in the other bundle line. Take your time and have patience. Put on some music and try not to curse too much. You'll get there!
  5. As soon as you can, start putting zip ties around your new bundle. I even opted to put zip ties on during the process, about every 20 strands or so and just cut them off later. Believe me this could save a lot of time if something happens and you don't want to have to start a bundle all over.
  6. When you're done make sure there are zip ties about every 8-12" around the entire bundle.
  7. Get a piece of tape, wrap it around the end of your bundle and write the number of strands you managed not to break on the tape. I think out of the 600 strands, I probably lost about 8 or so..
  8. Now get a drink and start on the next set.

You may be saying "geez man, it can't be that hard".. Your first instinct may be to count out 95 strands or how many ever you need in your hand and just begin pulling & yanking. Well, when you have hundreds of little strands, all nearly 17 feet long and each one wanting to go their own way, you'll quickly see yanking isn't going to get you anywhere. They immediately bind up and you can't separate them. If you devise a better method than the one I described, I'd love to hear about it!

UPDATE: Read the comments below - user "dalesql" offers a great suggestion on hanging the strands and allowing gravity to help separate the strands. This strategy may work much better!

Step 5: Install the Fiber Optics

Back to the fun stuff! Now it's time to insert each "star" into foam board panel one by one. Ok, maybe not so fun.. but anything beats separating strands. :)

First, you have to start with a starfield design. I thought about modeling my design after a shot of the Milky Way. I quickly decided that'd be too difficult. Then I thought maybe I'd set a projector to display a computer-generated random disbursement of stars on the area and put dots on the surface where they belonged. I even wrote an app to randomly generate the starfield, it was pretty fun way to teach myself about the HTML 5 Canvas object.

Then I got the board in front of me and realized I was totally overthinking this. Why not just place the dots myself at random? That's just what I did..

  1. Lay your panel down flat on top of a table and take a moment to clean the panel. No doubt by now your panel is full of lint, foam bits and dust. Take a lint roller and go over the entire surface, it worked really well on mine to clean the panel of debris.
  2. Next, grab the bundle of strands that you're going to use for this panel. Check the # of strands that you wrote on the piece of tape for this bundle.
  3. Take your marker and count off the same number of dots over the surface of your panel. The good part about this method is you'll get a truly random pattern. Don't worry about spacing them perfectly evenly or anything. In fact, go ahead and put a few right next together. When you look up at the night sky you'll often see groupings of stars like this - so go ahead & make it look authentic.
  4. Now stand your bundle up vertically. For this process, it works easier if have access to both the front & back of the panel at the same time. Tape one of your ends of your bundle to the center back of the panel. This will hold the strands in place while you're working, giving you easy access to the strands. Leave about 3 or 4' outside of the tape.
  5. It may save you time if you have a partner help you with the next few steps but I did it by myself. Take a small screwdriver or a nail and puncture a hole from the front, straight through to the back. Leave the nail in as a temporary marker to easily see from the back side.
  6. Grab a single strand, now remove the nail and feed the strand through from the back of the panel out of the front, leaving at least about 4" of slack sticking out.
  7. Repeat this process for all of your holes. It works best if you start a few at each corner first, this will make sure your bundle is positioned in the right place and you won't have to spend a lot of time unraveling stuff later to make it reach.
  8. Now go through top to bottom, place a good dab of glue right at where each strand goes into the board. Push & pull the strand a few times to make sure to glue gets in there. Within a couple hours that glue will dry and you'll have a complete panel.
  9. You may want to throw a few pieces of tape across the back to hold all the strands down flush to the back of your panel. Regardless, it's going to look like a total rat's nest back there.

Take a moment to appreciate how far you've come! It's pretty fun to shine the illuminator into the other end of your bundle and actually see your panel light up for the first time!

Now repeat these steps for each of your panels.

Step 6: Hang Your Panels

With your panel's assembly complete, now it's time to install them. Hopefully you've been paying close attention to the lengths of your strand bundles and have everything laid out in a way that will allow your bundles to reach to where your illuminator box will be.

  1. First locate your washers under the felt, and use an X-Acto knife or box cutter to cut a slit on the top of each washer in your panel. Leave enough room on each side of the slit to allow you to insert a screw and screw it into place. DO NOT attempt to screw directly into the felt without first cutting the slit. Your felt will twist around the screw and rip off from the foam board. Don't worry about about the hole - it can be easily concealed later.
  2. Now push a screw through the center of each washer until it pokes out a little bit through the back of the board.
  3. Lift the board into place, making sure it aligns flat against the wall and/or other panels around it. You want no gap between the panels, creating as seamless of a look as possible. A partner would be helpful with this.
  4. Tighten each screw directly into the drywall ceiling. You don't have to worry about hitting studs or anything, considering how lightweight these panels are. However, don't fasten these panels all the way up against the ceiling. You'll want to leave about a 1/2" gap between the ceiling and the panel. This will allow room for your strand bundles to run behind the panel.
  5. One nice thing about using screws like this is it allows you to adjust the height of each panel at different points. Adjust the board up or down to make everything level and even with surrounding panels.
  6. As you go, nail your strand bundle up in a straight line towards you illuminator using cable staples.

Repeat process until all panels are hung.

Step 7: Connect Your Strand Ends

The placement of your illuminator is going to depend on your room size and layout. You'll want to place it somewhere where it's concealed. Since I have a tray ceiling, I knew there would be plenty of room in the soffit of the tray. So I placed it directly in the middle of my room and concealed it with a 'faux' vent cover. This looks natural in the room, but I do plan on painting mine red to blend better into the wall. Just make sure you plan ahead on your illuminator placement to ensure all your strand bundles will reach it - you'll want to have at least a foot of slack.

  1. Gather up your bundles and disassemble the compression couplers that came with your kit. If you have a total of 600 strands then you'll have to divide them into half - each coupler is designed to hold about 300 strands.
  2. Feed the strands through each piece of your coupler assembly in order, tightening each piece about half-way as you go. This can be a bit of a time consuming process, just keep working at it until they're all in there. Leave about 1-2 inches of extra strand sticking out the end.
  3. Using your toenail clippers, begin cutting the ends flush with one another. You can do this about an 1/4" past the end of the metal tube - just make sure they're as even as you can possibly make them, then pull the whole bundle back until it's perfectly flush with the end of the tube.
  4. Tighten down all the parts of your coupler to ensure nothing comes loose. Attach the couplers to your illuminator and conceal it.

Step 8: Treat the Panels With Fire Retardant

Felt is flammable. Please take this precautionary step to ensure it doesn't become fuel for a fire in case of the unthinkable. This is relatively inexpensive and takes barely any time. While fiber optics themselves don't conduct any heat, I do have a projector mounted just a few inches below the panels and that does get hot. That's why I started thinking that just as a precaution, all of the panels should be treated.

I tested burning both treated and untreated felt. You'll see in the first picture, it will catch fire and spread. It kind of sparks as it burns.. kinda of pretty - but you don't want this to happen in your home. In the 2nd picture I am trying to light a treated piece of felt. However, it will not catch fire. It does melt because of the heat of the fire - but it will not become additional fuel for a fire.

With your panels in place just evenly spray the felt and let it dry. That's all there is to it! Just make sure you don't get it on anything else or in your eyes.

I recommend doing this step after you have the panels in place. I didn't do it this way, in my case I treated the panels before hanging them. What I didn't realize is that the fire retardant contains some kind of alkaline salts, and after handling the black material, you could kind of see whitish powdery handprints all over the felt. So I would recommend handling the panels as little as possible after treating them to avoid having to try to clean them later.

Step 9: Trim the Strands

While it looks pretty cool to have these hanging lighted strands, it gives more of the impression of stars once they're trimmed. My daughter said they look like "shooting stars". :)

Just take your toenail clippers and go along trimming each one. You want to leave it sticking out about 1/16 to 1/8 of an inch from the surface of your felt. This way you ensure the tip it won't get covered by felt fuzz, which would dim the light. This process can be a bit tiring on the arms, but didn't take me more than an hour to do the whole ceiling. Be prepared for cleanup though!

Don't worry about cutting them perfectly straight either - a recommendation from the manufacturer in fact says go ahead and cut them all at slightly different angles. This gives more of a "3D" effect when you're done.

Step 10: Enjoy Your Place Under the Stars!

Sit back & relax - its time to enjoy a movie under the stars!

I hope you've found this Instructable helpful. I'll be writing up an article soon about my whole home theater so check back if you'd like know more about how I built it.

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    Mister Boo
    Mister Boo

    7 months ago on Step 3

    Aaron, very great results and you were an inspiration to me. If it were not for you I would still be laying there night after night trying to think of the best way to do it. :-(

    I'd like to pass on what I learned so that others can benefit as I did from your posts. Before I start, everyone who sees this starlight theater is really WOW'd by it, so your friends and family and even the people at Lowes will praise your work when you are done.

    The theater room size is approximately 12' x 20' with a 12' x 10' bar area adjoining it, separated by a half wall. The starlight area itself in the theater is about 8' by 18'. I installed LED flush down lights around the perimeter of the theater walls and tray lighting with LED strips around the entire starlight area. So I basically have three separate light groups. All lights are controlled by bluetooth apps on your phone which allow for an incredible amount of flexibility in configuration, colors and control. Amazon has everything you need, but there are a zillion possible choices so make sure they can all 'talk' with each other or you'll have three extra remote controls you'll need to deal with.

    I originally bought the foam panels like Aaron did along with the washers and spray glue, but I ended up using Luan and wall paper paste. The main reason is that it is winter time here and I could not find a warm enough day to spray it outside and didn't want to release the spray glue in the closed basement area and gas myself to death! Luan is also light and stiff and can be attached in a variety of ways.

    The first thing I did was size the fiber optic projector. I chose one with 1000 fibers and 6 meters in length. You are far better off getting longer fibers than you think you will need because you will end up having to route the fibers and will need extra length to do that. Also, you have to think about giving yourself enough slack to be able to fabricate the panel at waist level and then put it up to your ceiling and you can't put them all up at the same time. This is very important and you'll be pulling your hair and your fibers out of your panel if the lengths are too short. Extra length can be taped or cable tied off.

    I bought the flat black felt at Joanne's fabric and cut it to give several inches of overlap around the perimeter of each Luan sheet. I ironed it to take out any wrinkles and rolled each sheet back into a cylinder and set it aside. This is very important because it will simplify it when you roll the fabric onto the wallpaper pasted Luan and prevent glue from getting onto your visible surface.

    The wall paper paste came pre-mixed in a gallon jug. I paint rollered it on the Luan and laid the fabric on top. I checked it later before it was completely dry and it didn't seem to attach very well, so took it back off, rollered on more paste, then replaced the fabric. You can't use too much glue here. Don't make the same mistake I did...."we do it nice because we do it twice"!

    After letting it dry overnight, I flipped the fabric covered side of the luan over exposing the luan on the other side. Tending towards overengineering things, I stapled the overlapping fabric around the perimeter of the Luan sheet with 1/4 inch staples. These are long enough to penetrate the fabric and Luan but not long enough to pop through to the visible side. This also minimizes any avenue for the fabric to get pulled free if it gets snagged while handling it. Make sure to not overlap the fabric onto itself in the corner areas when you staple it or it will not lay flat against the attach points on the ceiling. When you are working with the black fabric, EVERYTHING will show such as dusty hand prints, saw dust, dirt, etc. So keep anything it will touch covered with plastic sheeting.

    You cannot attach the Luan directly to the ceiling joists and will need to 'stand it off' at least an inch or so to give room to route the fibers. I then calculated the number of square feet I had to 'star' and divided it out into 1000. It came out to around 7 per square foot. Using a drywall square and marker, I divided each sheet into 1 foot squares. I then randomly dotted each square with 7 dots. I made it more dense in some areas than others and even added some star clusters and constellations, keeping a loose count while I did it! Some are arranged along a spiral arm but this is not very visible unless you are laying on your back on the floor looking up. I also added some 2" x 2" square "keep out" areas where the Luan would attach to the ceiling.

    To attach it to the ceiling, the floor joists are 16" on center. I ended up cutting 1 inch strapping into 2" x 2" squares and nail gunning them to each joist spaced 2 feet apart. This provided numerous attach points at regular intervals without creating 'star void' strips if I used the entire strap un cut. I marked the Luan with the corresponding 'keep out' areas where the attach points would be.

    Around the perimeter however, I did use a solid strap that was 3 1'2 inches wide. This allowed the drywall perimeter to firmly attach and abut the Luan panel when it was installed. It also secured the perimeter of the Luan and kept both the Luan and drywall at the same level. (Later, I covered up the joint with a thin strip of trim.)

    I did use a suggestion by one other poster on separating the fiber bundles. Starting near the projector end of the bundle, I counted the fibers out into 50 fiber bundles and cable tied them together until they were all separated. I then took each bundle of 50 and continued to separate the jumbled mass down the entire length until the end. So with 1000 fibers, I ended up with 20 fifty strand bundles. This part was a P.I.T.A. and took about three hours. I did end up hanging the bundle off the second floor balcony, allowing gravity to assist this process. It isn't fast but you can do it if you are patient. If you don't separate the fibers into bundles, it makes installing them impossible. Also, once separated, you can allocate 4 or 5 bundles per sheet, depending on your density. It also makes for easier routing of the fibers past the 'keep out' areas.

    I centrally located the projector in the ceiling and hung the fiber bundle end that attaches to the projector in this area before routing the fibers to each sheet, thus ensuring I would have enough length to install the fibers in the sheets and manipulate the sheets into place later. Be sure to add an opening in the Luan to access the projector. This opening can be covered with a piece of felt and Velcroed to the Luan. Make sure to give yourself enough of an opening to provide easy access to the projector.

    To install the fibers, I used a Dremel with a 1mm drill bit and punctured the Luan at each dot. I vacuumed up the dust to keep it from getting on the fabric. I then poked each fiber through the hole, dotted it with Elmers glue, worked the fiber up and down to pull the glue into the hole and let it be. Be sure to protrude the fiber a couple of inches through the hole. You can cut it off flush later if you want. This is easier than trying to get it perfect. Work from the center of the sheet out to the edges to avoid having to move around previously installed fibers. Tape off the fibers as needed to keep them close to the sheet and away from the 'keep out' areas.

    Once the glue was dry, I used the drywall jack to push the assembly up to the ceiling and position it. I used a finish nail gun to nail it to the attach points and the perimeter. As you jack the sheet up, get up there and move fibers around as needed and tape them off.

    I hope other poster found this useful. There are a lot of really great ideas out there!

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    Aron Hoekstra
    Aron Hoekstra

    Reply 7 months ago

    Wow that looks great!! Amazing job - you're right about how impressive it is to walk into a room with the starlight ceiling. What did you use around the outside, is that rope lighting? Do you plan to clip the ends? I notice in your picture they're still sticking out a couple inches..

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    Mister Boo
    Mister Boo

    Reply 7 months ago

    Hi Aron,
    Thanks for the compliment! Yeah, it really has a 'cool' factor and it came out better than I thought. I did start to clip off some of the fibers so there were flush to the fabric, but I actually like them sticking down a bit so I left most of them that way.

    I used the LED strip lights from Amazon. Here is the search criteria:

    "LED Strip Lights, Sumaote Color Changing Rope Lights 32.8ft 10m SMD 5050 RGB Light Strips Bluetooth with 24keys Remote Controller for Home, Bedroom, Party and Christmas Decoration"

    They have a bazillion different kinds and lengths, so you really have to study what you are buying.

    This company, Sumaote, makes the downlights too. Unfortunately, I already bought the projector from a different company due to the length of the fiber required and could not get one app that operated them all. But two apps aren't bad, really.

    The LED strips I bought are not long enough to go around the perimeter, so I had to buy two sets and overlap them slightly. Also, my crown mold is a bit small, so some of it is stuffed in there. Plus, the adhesive backing isn't that great in spots so it did not adhere all that great either, but nothing some clear tape couldn't fix.

    You can arrange all lights as individually accessible. You can also group them in a hierarchy. For example, I have both tray lights under one group, "tray lights", even though I could pull up each individually. Ditto for the downlights.

    best,
    chris

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    chris_k
    chris_k

    Question 3 years ago on Introduction

    Aaron, wonderful instructions. It has inspired me to do this project. 1 question: I bought the pink foam from Menards, Owens Corning Foamular. The Material Safety Data Sheet says it is not a fire hazard and non-flammable. What are your thoughts of skipping the black felt and just painting the foam board itself black? My home theater already has a black ceiling and it is dimly lit, so appearance-wise I think it would be okay. What are your thoughts?

    And thank you again for this tutorial!

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    Aron Hoekstra
    Aron Hoekstra

    Answer 3 years ago

    Totally your call - I think you'd have to test it with a piece. You'd probably want to go with a flat/matte black finish - maybe even the chalkboard paint. I'm sure it would work out great. I do like the concealing abilities that the felt offers (covering holes/filling gaps) you'll have to be more precise with the bare foam.

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    chris_k
    chris_k

    Reply 2 years ago

    Well, it took me a while, weekends here and there, but I finally got it done. I painted the foam board with a matte black. I love it and my family is impressed. Thank you Aron for the inspiration and directions!

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    SaadA6
    SaadA6

    Reply 8 months ago

    Hey, just curious what kind and brand of paint you ended up using if you remember. Painting seems like a cheaper, and more durable way to do it, but I know spray cans can tend to eat up foam, so I'm a bit worried about that.

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    chris_k
    chris_k

    Reply 8 months ago

    I just used Sherwin WIlliams latex flat paint called Tricorn Black. It's the same paint I used for the rest of the ceiling. I chose a flat paint instead of glossy because I didn't want any light reflection from the projector. I had to use about 2 coats. I did not use primer. As mentioned by another reviewer, it's easy to have nicks and indentations in the foam board. I just filled those in with a paint brush.

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    clone14
    clone14

    Answer 2 years ago

    Great idea, I can see how that would also work just fine. However, every little nic or scratch will show pink. The felt allows you to cover accidental marks, or any other imperfections; which makes it a more practical method.

    Plus, felt is relatively inexpensive compared to other fabrics of equal or greater quality, including fire retardant material fabrics

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    Jburkher
    Jburkher

    10 months ago

    Fantastic tutorial. I finished my star ceiling, a 3 panel (4x7 panels). Mods to the tutorial. I used sewing pins (3 different heads) to represent the 3 sized fiber elements, it worked excellent as I was able to generate constellations and randomize the other stars well. I placed the felt covered panels vertically on their side and used a drill with a very small bit long enough to penetrate a Owens Corning 1.5 in foam board. There is a little technique with the drilling (a bit of experimentation needed ) to avoid catching the felt (dont over drill, simply go through the board, push in and out a bit, then remove drill bit). overall it worked out excellently. Also, I paid for Wiedamark to bundle my fibers into the respective sizes/etc. and it was well worth it. Elmers glue worked perfect and was able to clip the fibers between a 1/16 and 1/8 from felt (again, need to experiment just a bit to get that right for the felt you have). Super end product ... really really happy !!!!! ...... so thank you Aron, I am sure it would not have gone as smoothly without your help.

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    cali415er
    cali415er

    Question 10 months ago on Step 8

    hello there, great job. you inspired me, unfortunately I was impatient and sprayed the fabric fire protection before adding optic fibers. Now I have a whitish residue. If I may ask what did or how did you clean it?

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    page2_uk
    page2_uk

    1 year ago

    Well done and thanks for sharing. You inspired and helped me so much.

    I followed your guide but used a more dense polystyrene board from Bunnings, used fleece from Spotlight to cover the boards and I used magnets to fix the panels to metal strips screwed to the ceiling.

    I put the whole unit in the roof space and fed the cables through the ceiling before I sorted my strands into sizes, then into bundles for each panel.

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    meghana.bakare
    meghana.bakare

    Reply 1 year ago

    Hello, can you please share more info on magnetic strip connectors you used on panels? please share if you have any photos on how you installed them on panels.
    You have done wonderful job just like Aron! really appreciate both of your info shared here.

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    page2_uk
    page2_uk

    Reply 1 year ago

    The magnets are rare earth, 20mm diameter, 5mm thick, 5mm hole from Ebay


    I glued plastic glazing spacers to the back of the panels to create enough space for the fibre optics

    https://www.bunnings.com.au/macsim-fasteners-6-4-x-75mm-window-packer-100-pack_p1040471

    Then glued the magnets to the spacers and secured with 40mm screws.

    The screws have enough purchase to hold 3kgs of pull force, but any lateral movement when positioning the panels, weakens the screw to panel strength. The glue stops the lateral movement.
    The metal strips are cut to size from Carinya 40 x 600 x 1mm Flat Make-a-Bracket

    from Bunnings

    https://www.bunnings.com.au/carinya-40-x-600-x-1mm-flat-make-a-bracket_p3975882


    The magnets are 20mm diameter, 5mm thick, 5 mm hole rare earth from eBay. They are very brittle, so don’t let them smash together when working with them or they will shatter.

    You need to mark the ceiling with where the panels will go.

    Then mark the position of the magnets will be and fasten the flat bracket to the ceiling. I tried to get every bracket to have one fixing into a joist to reduce the weight being held by the ceiling. I used plasterboard anchors where there was no joist.

    Macsim 45mm Nylon Plasterboard Anchor - 70 Pack

    Macsim 45mm Nylon Plasterboard Anchor - 70 Pack
    Find Macsim 45mm Nylon Plasterboard Anchor - 70 Pack at Bunnings Warehouse. Visit your local store for the wides...

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    vince.scordino
    vince.scordino

    Reply 1 year ago

    Brilliant, both of you! Especially when Bunnings and Spotlight was mentioned, makes this far more localised!

    Love the magnet and spacers. Can't wait until my house is built so I can tackle this :)

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    page2_uk
    page2_uk

    Reply 1 year ago

    Phots

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    meghana.bakare
    meghana.bakare

    Reply 1 year ago

    Thank you for your reply, links and pictures really helps for more details. I will post the pics once i am done with the project.

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    EmilyK112
    EmilyK112

    Question 1 year ago

    So id like to do this little project in my room, but my ceilings are pretty low and i have mo way to conceal the thickness of the panels, will it look wierd if i do it anyways, or is there a way to modify this so it is thinner? TIA

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    sureshnan
    sureshnan

    Question 1 year ago

    Aron-

    It was really nice work. My question is how did you fix the panel on the ceiling. I knew that you have screw and washer on the panel but how did you fix it? Is there any image you can share?

    Thanks
    Suresh
    908-239-8946

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    Pittsky83
    Pittsky83

    Question 2 years ago on Introduction

    How did you seal up the slits you made in the felt for washers?