Desktop Fire-Tornado

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Introduction: Desktop Fire-Tornado

Use caution when working with fire and flammables!

I recently placed a meat thermometer next to the acrylic cylinder. It's temperature was starting to exceed 190 Degrees F. The acrylic that I was using was regulated for up to 170 I believe. With that being said I would not run this to long unless you have a cylinder material that is more resilient to heat (glass).

In the clip below there are two setups. I will have more details about there differences at the end.

Why?
This is an adaptation as a result of a demonstration that I put on for my professor and fellow students in class during Bellarmine University's MAT program. I had seen many fire tornadoes where you spin a lazy suzanne (or that alike) with mesh around the outside. I didn't like the idea of spinning the flammable liquid (alcohol). A quest for a safer method then ensued.

Through much trial and error, lessons learned, and a lot of curiosity; I have built something pretty cool.

I hope you enjoy this build!

Step 1: The Parts

This items list includes a lot of the items that I did use and some items that I wish I had used. Some of these items you might have laying around the house.

[updated] Glass Chimney: $15.79-$25.52

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008UWA514/ref=o...

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LX1NIB0/ref=o...


Push button: $0.66
Manufacturer Part Number (digikey) GPTS203211B

Computer Fan $2.99:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Sub...

Computer Fan Grill Screws: Not sure, these may come with the grill or the fan. My fan was left over from an old tower computer.

Fan grill: $1.66/grill (pack of three)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Sub...

Metal Can: $0.77
http://www.freundcontainer.com/4oz-open-top-tin-pl...

Metal screen home depot $8.65:
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Unbranded-27-in-x-8-ft-...

9 volt conector/9 volt sleeve: $2.91
DigiKey manufacture number 1290

Cabinet Bumpers: $2.97
Home Depot- Shepards Self-Adhesive Vinyl

Step 2: Make a Stand

This is the stand in which the pineapple can that I cut in half will sit on. I used two paper clip to give the can some support if the device is ever moved. The more centered the can, the more uniform the vortex.

I choose to bend mine slightly in to give more of a pinch to the can.

Step 3: Support for Cylinder

The wire mesh serves as a support for the acrylic cylinder. The mesh is 8 high by 34 wide. The squares in the mesh are 1 cm by 1 cm.

As you can see, I left extra to use as hooks when attaching to the grill and to itself. When I make my next one I plan on having alternating squares at the bottom to attach to the grill.

Step 4: Attach Fan

Using the fan screws, attach the grill to the fan.

Step 5: Fan Stand

The height of the fan above the ground was determined by trial and error. For this fan the height was optimal at three cabinet bumpers high. At the end of the article I will talk more about considerations to make.

Step 6: Wire It Up.

Through my minimal research I found that it is best to have the switch on the positive wire. This is what it looked like before I cleaned it up. Before I started cutting the wire down I wanted to make sure that everything was working properly. It was so I shortened up the wires and hot glued the batty mount and switch to the side.

Step 7: Pour, Light, Flip

I always remove my can from the assembly before adding the alcohol. I don't want to risk spilling inside the fan.

Step 8: Creators Notes

Something that I started looking into was the Cubic Feet per Minute (CFM) that the fans crank out. In the video you see that the one on the right (black) is rising up out of the cylinder. This fan (black) is able to crank out 64 CFM. With it being so powerful I had to decrease the amount of air that it was able to get. Therefore, I lowered the height by one cabinet bumper. In doing so, I was able to stabilize the vortex. I did research on the blue fan and couldn't find any literature on it. The blue one is nice because it is quiet. The black fan is nice because it creates a huge flame. However, the black fan is quiet loud and can be distracting if this is a decoration item sitting off to the side.

Update (7/4/18): I have used a Hurricane that I purchased on amazon. Here are both that I like.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LX1NIB0/ref=o...

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008UWA514/ref=o...

[ After use, the acrylic cylinder gets hot, real hot. I don't know if there is a work around for this or if it's just the nature of having a heat source inside a container. Some thoughts are decreasing the width of the internal container that is holding the alcohol. In doing so, I am guessing that the further the flame is from the walls the better. However, the ratio of width of outer cylinder to inner can my create some issues.]



As I continue to make new ones I will update this to let you all know the best design and practices that I come across.

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44 Comments

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kbc2
kbc2

8 years ago

very cool! Question though, what about oil burning lamps? I had a tiki torch with a "hurricane lamp" globe over it, about half an inch clearance between canister and globe, a nice breeze blowing, and it made a much taller flame. Not a tornado effect, but was a cool effect. Most acrylic can withstand the heat for some time, not very long though. I have seen some tempered glass cylinders on eBay which would be much better for longer burns.

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BenjaminParris
BenjaminParris

Reply 4 years ago

This is a great recommendation. I have since moved to the glass hurricanes. They get super hot, but do not deform.

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Kinnishian
Kinnishian

8 years ago on Introduction

Perhaps you can direct some of your air onto the exterior of the acrylic housing. This should increase conduction away from the plastic tube while being possible to incorporate relatively smoothly to the design.

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tervuren
tervuren

8 years ago on Introduction

As one other person suggested you may want to use pyrex or something else that can withstand high heat, such as material for fireplace door, or for kerosene lamps or lanterns to use it safely, plus keep in mind this concept and project is using a phenomena called chimney effect, which can reach rather high temperature in short span of time, if not careful can pose high risk, for sure fire hazard, no matter what fuel you use, think of a jet engine afterburner.

but nonetheless it is cool idea.

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DaveT2
DaveT2

Reply 8 years ago on Introduction

Be aware, BTW, that Aladdin kerosene lamps, which use such a chimney, are known to be capable of doing exactly what tervuren (are you as intense as the wonderful dogs of that name?) alludes to: suddenly emitting a three foot flame and setting the ceiling on fire.

What happens is the the lamp actually becomes a blow torch because the kerosene reservoir has gotten too hot. That could easily happen here, so make sure you have the fuel source adequately insulated from the flame.

Or use a metal cylinder and do it on purpose. A DIY jet engine.

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gzus11
gzus11

8 years ago on Step 8

i built one with no moving parts. using the impeller disk from an old hoover motor at the base of the tube encourages the rotation of the air as it enters. with the alcohol burner just below the disk generates a nice tornado flame effect.

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omikeo
omikeo

Reply 8 years ago on Step 8

yeah i like the simpler aspect can you post a video ?

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gzus11
gzus11

Reply 8 years ago on Step 8

no video, but there's some photos from my experiments

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Dandeman321
Dandeman321

Reply 8 years ago on Introduction

Ooo, do you have a video of that thing working? The third picture? Looks pretty nice!

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Bowtie41
Bowtie41

8 years ago on Introduction

Like you,I REALLY like the idea of NOT having a dish of spinning fuel sloshing around.Great Job! I gotta build one of these for sure.After looking at other vids on YT,I found this one that tells you how to color the flames.I'm gonna try it with your project: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8xMB4UTeCo

Borax/Boric Acid for green,strontium for red,and potassium for violet(Boric Acid I got,but have to figure out where to get the others)

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Fastaco226
Fastaco226

8 years ago

Ok I'm a little ignorant in the field of burning things but did you put the alcohol into the can and just light it? Wouldn't it all burn instantly and not a slow burn for the tornado to take effect?

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PhillipS1
PhillipS1

Reply 8 years ago on Introduction

Volatility is measured as a chemical's ability to evaporate quickly. The vapors are what interact with the oxygen to create fire, and the fire accelerates evaporation, but it does not do so in an instantaneous manner because alcohol is not as volatile as something like TNT. So the vapors coming off the alcohol fuel the fire gradually over time as the liquid evaporates in the chamber.

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antotabo2
antotabo2

Reply 8 years ago

You are mostly right exept your analogy. TNT is not a fuel like alcohol but rather a perfect mix of fuel and oxidizer, therefore it doesnt need oxygen for combustion and therefore doesnt need to evaporate like fuels.

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jkinsman
jkinsman

Reply 8 years ago

If you soak cotton balls with the isopropyl alcohol then light those on fire they will burn slowly

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mjursic
mjursic

Reply 8 years ago on Introduction

The alcohol will only burn on the surface, where it comes into contact with oxygen. That's why you'll get a slow, even burn. You can get pyrex cylinders at your local surplus shop. Or at least in mine--Active Surplus on Queen Street in Toronto has them for decently cheap.

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AlanC2
AlanC2

8 years ago on Step 8

There are a few portable campfire stoves, both here and on Youtube. Two soda cans, spliced together holding cotton balls, and a series of small nail holes for the flames. Smaller, multiple flames may be what you are lookiing for - longer lasting and less heat.

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eclectic99
eclectic99

8 years ago on Introduction

If you want to study airflow based on fan rpm rather than changing the height of the air input space, a cheap add-on is a PWM DC controller. I use one on a similar fan unit for another application. There are cheaper ones than the one cited below with lower current ratings as well.

Mine is:
6V-90V 15A Pulse Width PWM DC Motor Speed Controller Switch ~$7.50