Introduction: Fog Juice Advice
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Because sometimes knowing what not to do is more important than knowing what to do.
I knew that fog machines work by passing the fog juice over a heating element, where it vaporized, and was released into the air. So I thought to myself, this would work great on a stove, it obviously cant be flammable because it is shot out over a heating element. It would fill my whole house up with fog, and I wouldn't have to wait for the heating element to charge up every time I fire, like in a fog machine, it would just release the fog constantly.
So I got my method down of pouring the fog juice into a hot pan, letting it all bubble off as fog, and then adding more. It was actually very efficient and worked just the way I thought it would, and before long my entire house was filled up with smoke. However, (I didn't know this when I did it) when the fog juice would burn off, it wouldn't burn off evenly, so of the propylene glycol, triethylene glycol, and distilled water something was getting concentrated in the bottom of the pan.
Watch the video and see what happens. Not only that but I now learned that if its heated over a certain temperature then it releases toxic fumes. Ive probably just shaved off 5 years of my life, at this point I'm probably expected to live to about 26 (this wasn't the first time Ive breathed toxic fumes).
Because sometimes knowing what not to do is more important than knowing what to do.
I knew that fog machines work by passing the fog juice over a heating element, where it vaporized, and was released into the air. So I thought to myself, this would work great on a stove, it obviously cant be flammable because it is shot out over a heating element. It would fill my whole house up with fog, and I wouldn't have to wait for the heating element to charge up every time I fire, like in a fog machine, it would just release the fog constantly.
So I got my method down of pouring the fog juice into a hot pan, letting it all bubble off as fog, and then adding more. It was actually very efficient and worked just the way I thought it would, and before long my entire house was filled up with smoke. However, (I didn't know this when I did it) when the fog juice would burn off, it wouldn't burn off evenly, so of the propylene glycol, triethylene glycol, and distilled water something was getting concentrated in the bottom of the pan.
Watch the video and see what happens. Not only that but I now learned that if its heated over a certain temperature then it releases toxic fumes. Ive probably just shaved off 5 years of my life, at this point I'm probably expected to live to about 26 (this wasn't the first time Ive breathed toxic fumes).
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184 Comments
13 years ago on Introduction
Pretty cool
14 years ago on Introduction
I'm not shure what's happening to me , but every time i watchthis video i LOL so hard i can't breath!
15 years ago on Introduction
just wondering would it be possible to collect the stuff that pools in the bottom before it bursts into flame, and use it as a type of rocket fuel or somthing of that manner?
Reply 14 years ago on Introduction
No, it won't work as "rocket fuel". This would be about the same as using gasoline or cooking oil as rocket fuel (NASA doesn't use that stuff for a reason). Big flames != thrust. To use this stuff as rocket fuel, you would have to burn it under high pressure in the presence of an oxidizer like liquid oxygen or nitrous oxide. Additionally, you would need some kind of nozzle and injection system that injects this stuff into the combustion chamber, and it will be very difficult to get the correct fuel-oxidizer ratio. If you could build such a rocket engine, it probably would be too heavy to even lift itself unless you built it on a very large scale, which is not something the average do-it-yourselfer can do. And even if you could build an engine to burn this stuff, it might tun out that there is not enough energy in it to do anything at all. A much simpler rocket fuel is solid propellant, which combines the oxidizer and fuel in a relatively safe and stable solid form that burns rapidly when lit.
Reply 14 years ago on Introduction
so your saying nasa doesn't have nozzles and injection systems on their rockets... those have nothing to do with the fuel, if the myth busters can make a working rocket using salami for fuel, im sure this could create some thrust. you could always add something to speed up the combustion. (that doesn't mean it's the best way, but it might work)
Reply 14 years ago on Introduction
the mythbusters packed other fuel sources into a hallowed out salami roll.. it wasnt pure salami that was being burned off for fuel.
Reply 14 years ago on Introduction
NASA uses liquid hydrogen and oxygen in the space shuttle, which is very different from hydrocarbon fuel. There are some rocket engines that use hydrocarbon+liquid oxygen as fuel, though, such as the Soviet NK-33
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NK-33
You can read more about liquid rocket engines, including their history, here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_rocket
I would still say that fog juice residue is not a good choice of fuel, though since you don't know what it consists of. Also, I would still say that it would be very difficult to build a liquid-fueled engine yourself.
The Mythbusters salami rocket was a hybrid engine, which means it has solid fuel and a liquid/gaseous oxidizer. Hybrid rockets are quite a bit simpler than liquid-fuel rockets since the reaction is basically self-balancing. The fuel will react with the oxidizer as fast as the oxidizer is supplied, so there is no need to ensure that two liquids flow at the same rate.
Reply 14 years ago on Introduction
no the mixture doesn't burn fast enough and its probably reeeeely toxic
Reply 14 years ago on Introduction
i'll try it.
15 years ago on Introduction
:< ramen is yummy..
Reply 15 years ago on Introduction
I prefer deep fried cans of wd 40
Reply 15 years ago on Introduction
OMG! It's going on forever!
Reply 15 years ago on Introduction
Barbequeued (sp?) diesel's nice.
Reply 15 years ago on Introduction
yes, with red spray paint.
Reply 15 years ago on Introduction
no Diesel actually makes a very good soufle(sp)
Reply 15 years ago on Introduction
and also flambed (flam BAYD) as in the photo, on fire!
Reply 15 years ago on Introduction
:) WE'll have to extend the page soon. I'll stick another 3 inches of LCD onto my monitor, to make room. I'll need to get another monitor, in order to get 3 inches of LCD, but i'll put the rest to good use. Yum.
Reply 15 years ago on Introduction
Does anyone else seem to realize that this started in January?
I feel so special, cuz Vendi here and I started it. I thnik the page is gonna require a bottom scrolll bar soon enough...
Reply 15 years ago on Introduction
We have created something beautiful. :)
Reply 15 years ago on Introduction
yes, truly wonderfull, does anyone else think so?