Introduction: Krups Beerteender Conversion
Since I homebrew, I have wanted to keg my beer and serve it chilled from a tap. However, I have not had the money, nor the space, to invest into a full size kegging operation. I wanted something that looked attractive, was small, easily stored and wouldn't cost to much. This project really fit the bill. I think I spent just under $100 in parts, and since the Krups Beertender was a gift I didn't have to spend any cash on that.
I updated this on 1-27-14 with somethings I learned while using it:
-The Edgestar tap is good, but the regulator is a pain. Buy a real one, and the basic adapter to paintball CO2 route if you go that way.
-Don't bother with the glue
-If you go with Edgestar regulator check the comments for fittings.
I got this idea from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbLjPP7W5Q4
Step 1: Gather Needed Items
For this I used a:
Krups Beertender (model B100)
The Edge Star Mini-Keg Conversion Kit
Drill - If you have a right angle drill, i would use it. Space is very limited
1/8" Drill Bit
7/32" Drill Bit
1/4" Drill Bit
Teflon Tape
*Loctite Clear Silicone Water Proof for Aquariums (if you are able to find specifically food grade sealant, I would use that. However, the aquarium sealant is perfectly safe once cured)
Mini-keg
*This isn't needed and this is what came apart when I had a regulator fail. I rely on friction and have had no problems
Optional
*The 'Adapter II' (make sure it goes paintball to 1/4" right-hand threaded)
*Brass 1/4" to 1/8" Reducer
*Brass 1/8" to 1/8" (short)
**The Adapter
**Regulator
20 oz CO2 Paintball Tank
C-Wrenches
Locking Pliers
*See comments regarding beer gun regulator nut and 1/4" to 1/4" npt
**I had some major problems with the EdgeStar Regulator and went to a normal regulator and adapter for the paintball co2 tank.
My local sports store sold me a tank for around $25. I switched to this, because the 16g CO2 cartridges run you about $2 a piece, and it costs about $5 to fill the much larger canister. It should save money in the long run
Please keep in mind, with the larger CO2 tank you are dealing with very high air pressure. I used brass fittings, since they can take the pressure. I wouldn't use plastic or PVC on the tank side of the regulator.
Step 2: Adapt the Beer Line
First we need to build you beer line.
Krups uses a propitiatory tap valve which we need to hi-jack.
On the beertender tap, pull the tube out of the gray piece, It is just held in with some plastic shims.
The beer line that comes in the kit is quite long, and you may be tempted to cut it to size. Don't, the longer it is the better the pour. Also, since the beertender tap is designed to be a one time use piece, I imagine that it will be the first thing to fail so its nice having the coupling there to only replace part of the beer line and not the entire thing.
Step 3: Figure Out Where to Place Gasline
When you open the top there are a few things to look for. First there is were the ridge where the lid stops. You want to be below that . However there is also an aluminium plate/sleeve, you want to be above that. I dropped the keg to figure out best placement to give to the gas line a little room to move.
Once I figured out where I wanted to put it, I drilled a pilot with my 1/8" since I didn't want to crack the plastic by going to big to quick. I then used the 7/32", which is just big enough to jam your air line in, However since I had to angle my drill, I needed to used the 1/4" to widen the outside hole to retrieve the line. This is where a right angle drill would have been really great.
Step 4: Tap Your Keg
I used the cleaning bottle to run some vinegar and water through the line to clean it.
I did take apart and wrap with Teflon tape all the joints and couplings I could on the tap.
To tap the keg you need to either remove the existing bung, or if the bung allows for it, run the tap through it.
On the Spaten, I had to remove the bung. First I vented the keg (turned the red knob on top), then pulled the red valve and then the rest of the bung. I stuck in one of the included orange reusable bung and put the tap in.
Note the arrow on top of the tap. It points to the beer line. Hook up all the quick connects on the tap. Before you put your CO2 on the regulator, turn it all the way to off. Screw all your adapters into the regulator, if you are using a paintball tank screw all the pieces together and add the tank last. Push the clear line into the regulator, and turn it up to about 15psi.
Now you want to grab a soapy rag and check for leaks. I had a gas leak where my gas line connected to the tap. I had to cut and reseat the line and I was good to go.
Step 5: Kick Back and Have Beer
Let the keg get cold (chilling in fridge overnight helps)
Pour beer, and Enjoy!
24 Comments
Question 2 years ago on Introduction
Need replacement for beer line on krups beer tender (what else can I use ? Tired of buying 5.00 heniken lines. Thanks
8 years ago on Introduction
With this conversion done, would it be possible to fill a 5L keg at growler fill station (assuming they allow that) and use in this unit. I don't know much about the chemistry or physics of beer and bottling/kegging, would the beer be ruined by the added CO2 or would it oxidize?
Reply 7 years ago
Yeah, you could do that, but you could also go for another solution with a submersible pump: http://bit.ly/1LQLw0y
Reply 8 years ago
it shouldn't matter that much. I can't fill the mini kegs with beer due to local ordnance. However, I have done soda and that lasted fine.
Reply 8 years ago on Introduction
Very cool, thank you for the reply.
7 years ago
Make a video bro!
8 years ago on Introduction
Hey I just did this conversion yesterday. My regulator is leaking like crazy. There is a little black nut on the back and just shoots out air. I have tightened it and nothing happened. Any Ideas? Thanks,
9 years ago on Introduction
Hey, well done! Kudos!
As I am a homebrewer, too, this looks great for small places. I will give it a try. Probably, won't find the paintball cans here, but who knows!?
Two quick questions:
Reply 9 years ago on Introduction
Reply 9 years ago on Introduction
Hmmm... looks even better!
I will try to find those tanks for paintball. In this case, I guess I can carbonate the beer faster (I would get to drink 2 weeks faster than usually :) ).
Thanks!!!
Reply 9 years ago on Introduction
Let me know how it works.
For what its worth, I never went to forcing carbing with this because it felt like more hassle then its worth. To carb all four at once you would have to build sort of manifold to get to all the kegs at once. Or you carb on at time...and that seems like not enough volume at once for the downtime required to carb...
9 years ago on Step 2
Nice work! How long does this keep the mini keg cold?
Reply 9 years ago on Introduction
For a fairly long time. The Beertender uses as Peltier cooling system which is effective at keeping things cold, but not effective at making things cold. So if you stick a room temp mini-keg in there it can take up to 24 hours to chill it. But if you chill it in your fridge before hand, the Beertender will keep it chilled as long as it is plugged in.
9 years ago on Step 5
hey man, was doing this project and i ran into a few hiccups. i have the same exact edgestar regulator as you and i went a different route other than the adapter 2 right hand thread, 1/4" to 1/8" reducer and 1/8" to 1/8" nipple, i went paintball fill valve with 1/8" outlet to 1/8" short to 1/8" elbow to 1/8" short. the problem is the 1/8" seems to be a little small and threads dont tighten all the way. have you had any problems or have to remove the pin inside the regulator female connector? i took the male end from the 16g co2 housing to lowes and it was bigger than 1/8". it was 1/4" compression fitting but i tried a 1/4" compression thread male nipple and the threads seem to be off. it seems to be the 1/4" compression size fitting but with regular threads. any advice? also on another note and idk if you know but on ebay there's an adapter to change out the tap handle, where you can put your own tap handle on there. just another touch you could do. also, great write up!! i hope to get this regulator thing figured out. i might just try a butt load of teflon tape on the 1/8" nipple and say some prayers. and fyi, i have the exact same edgestar regulator you have. i know they have two different sizes, i believe a 1/2" threaded one and the smaller one which you and i have.
Reply 9 years ago on Introduction
I need to look up the adapter, thanks for the heads up.
Tamorgen used a Beer Gun regulator adapter and made it work that way. I have moved away from the Edgestar regulator since I had two fail on me :(.
Reply 9 years ago on Introduction
sorry to hear that they failed. I think i might just skip the whole edgestar regulator now. im getting fed up with trying to find the right fitting. i tried the 1/4" flare and no luck. there's no local homebrew stores around me to help. im glad the beer gun adapter worked for tamorgen. i hope i will find this product online and try it. i saw a check valve that was similar.
9 years ago on Introduction
Great DIY, but I have a question about the Paintball conversion. You say "Adapter II", right handed thread, but what I've found here is that "The Adapter" is right-handed, and "The Adapter II" is left handed. Can you verify which one you bought?
Reply 9 years ago on Introduction
It really depends on what regulator you are using.
If you bought the kit from Edgestar, you can recieve one of two regulators from what I have heard.
I recieved the silver one with a smaller port and used the Adapter 2, with right hand threads, since it was easier to step down.
For the other one, I don't know
The main difference between the adapter and the adapter 2 is thread size. The original adapter is a match for the standard CO2 nut. The Adapter 2 is a match for the regulator stem and you can screw directly into the regulator, and forgo the nut/stem.
The Adapter 2 comes in both right and left handed threading. Right hand threading will fit the standard CO2 regulator, while left handed will fit a nitrogen regulator (which can regulate CO2 as well).
http://www.homebrewing.org/Paintball-Adapter-II-right-hand-thread_p_2637.html Adapter 2 right handed
http://www.homebrewing.org/Paintball-Adapter-II-left-hand-thread-_p_2638.html Adapter 2 left handed.
Reply 9 years ago on Introduction
So, I've made the conversion, but I'm having a devil of a time figuring out the threading on the regulator. For now, I'm running the CO2 cartriges, but the first two cartridges leaked like crazy, and I had to go onto the third. The third only got me part way through the keg, so I had to buy more at a local home brew store.
I bought the parts you mentioned for the paintball tank conversion, but my regulator seems to be metric. Problem is, most big box hardware stores have an awful selection of metric, and nothing that converts NPT to Metric. I thought the regulator was going to be M10, but nope, I had ordered a 1/8" to M10 converter off of Amazon, and it was to small. It is likely a M12, but xWhat? M12x1.0 or M12x1.5, or M12x1.75. I've ordered both the 1.0 and 1.5 this time around, and hopefully one of them will work the next time my CO2 cartridges is empty. I'll post what it ends up being once I know for sure.
Reply 9 years ago on Introduction
I finally figured out what the fitting is for the CO2 regulator. It's not metric, and it's also not the 1/8" NPT fitting, although that was a close fit. The problem is the fitting would thread in, but slip, and break the seal. Thats one of the reasons I thought it might be metric (that, and the idiot at Home Depot said it was metric). NPT fittings are tapered, and that's why it was slipping.
After ordering and returning different adapters, I finally took the regulator down to my local Ace hardware, and spoke with their plumbing guy. He showed me tapering on the threads. It's hard to see on a 1/8" fitting, but it is there. It's easier to see if you look at a 1" NPT fitting. NPT fittings are meant for plumbing (water), and not gas. The CO2 regulator is a straight thread, and those threads are harder to find.
He suggested I call Roberts Oxygen, but I was told they didn't have anything that small. I was resigned to perhaps investing in a standard CO2 regulator and tossing the BeerTender adapter aside, just using the plastic parts and tubing.
Next I went to my local Home Brew supply store, and showed the guy there what I had and the issue I was having, and we went over to their fitting shelves, and they had several pieces that fit the Edgestar adapter. The thread is actually a 1/4" Flare fitting, so that's what you actually need. They had a part for $2.50 that converted the 1/4" flare to 1/4" NPT, and they called it a Beer Gun regulator adapter. All I needed now was a 1/4" NPT to 1/4" NPT coupler.
Armed with that new knowledge and the adapter, I went to Home Depot, got the coupling, some gas fitting thread tape (teflon is not for gas), and built the adapter. Now, I can finally hook my paintball tank up to my Beertender