Salvaging Liquid Crystal Displays (LCDs)

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Introduction: Salvaging Liquid Crystal Displays (LCDs)

Almost all electronics have some sort of human interface, from blinking lights and beeping speakers to seven segment alphanumeric and Liquid Crystal Displays. This Instructable is about salvaging and testing Liquid Crystal Displays, and a couple tricks I know to make salvaging them more successful.

I salvage; components can get expensive, LCDs can run $10.00 and up even SCRs and mosfets can cost over $100.00 so I salvage everything of reusable value as well as recyclable. Scrap metals like copper, gold, silver, and aluminum can bring you money as well.

Liquid Crystal Displays can be found on CD players, Phones, and printers just to mention a few. In this Instructable I will be dissembling an HP combination printer, scanner, fax machine.

Step 1: Tools & Supplies

Assorted Phillips Screwdrivers
Assorted Torx Screwdrivers
Assorted Pliers
Side Cutters
Spring Loaded Tweezers
Large Soldering Iron
Small Soldering Iron
Utility Knife
Dremel Set
Arduino UNO Kit
Wires
Solder
Goop Glue

Step 2: Disassembling a HP Psc 750xi

Printers & scanners are simple to dissemble, just remove the screws and take out the parts most of the screws are under the lid, on the back, and on the bottom of the printer & scanner.

Even when the screws are removed the plastic housing panels are clipped together with tabs holding them in place. Work your way around the individual panels to find the tabs and unclip them. Plastic is recyclable and some plastic recyclers pay for the plastic so don’t just throw the plastic in the garbage.

The control module of the printer scanner contains the control buttons and the Liquid Crystal Display. It dissembles by removing the five screws on the back.

I sort the parts into two groups Electronics to be stripped for parts and gold, and mechanics like guides, gears, and stepper motors.

Remember metal is recyclable and almost all recyclers pay for scrap metal so if you don’t keep it sell it.

Although the LCD module looks different than the other TN STN FSTN LCD modules in this Instructable it is connected the same way when testing.

Step 3: Chip on Glass Liquid Crystal Displays (COG LCD)

Chip on Glass (COG) LCDs have the driver IC on the glass near the input pins or ribbon connector (The rectangle on the glass near the pins & ribbon) and they come in serial data input as well as parallel data input like TN, STN, and FSTN modules. Many of the serial data input COG LCDs have the same number of pins as the parallel data input LCDs, so with COG LCDs the datasheets are more important as the inputs purpose is not easy to see when you are just looking at the LCD.

As well as the attached datasheet here is some pin outs for COG displays, many of the data sheets have the Display in the part number such as, S161COG, 16x1 COG display, S162COG, 16x2 COG display, and 64128L 128x64 graphic LCD display.

The contrast circuit for COG LCDs is the same as the contrast circuit as TN, STN, FSTN module.

Pins Right to Left
8 Pin 16x2 Character COG LCD

PIN SYMBOL FUNCTION
1 VOUT DC/DC Converter Out
2 VC Capacitor Positive (-) side
3 VCC Capacitor Negative (+) side
4 VDD Power Supply for Logic
5 VSS 0 Volts Ground
6 SDA Serial Data Input
7 SCL Serial Clock
8 RST Reset Signal L = Active

8 Pin 16x2 Character COG LCD

PIN SYMBOL FUNCTION
1 RST Reset Signal L = Active
2 SCL Serial Clock
3 SDA Serial Data Input
4 VSS 0 Volts Ground
5 VDD Power Supply for Logic
6 VOUT DC/DC Converter Out
7 VC Capacitor Positive (-) side
8 VCC Capacitor Negative (+) side

Displaytech 14 Pin 16X2 Character COG LCD
Pins Left to Right

PIN SYMBOL FUNCTION
1 VSS 0 Volts Ground
2 VO Contrast Adjustment
3 VDD +3 or +5 Volts Power Supply
4 RS Register Select Signal L = Instruction H = Data
5 R/W Read/Write Select Signal L = Write H = Read
6 E Enable Signal
7 DB0 Data Bus
8 DB1 Data Bus
9 DB2 Data Bus
10 DB3 Data Bus
11 DB4 Data Bus
12 DB5 Data Bus
13 DB6 Data Bus
14 DB7 Data Bus

Step 4: Salvaging COG LCDs

This printer display is parallel data input to the circuit board and parallel data input to the COG LCD, I know this by reverse engineering the circuit board and checking the components datasheets.

I like to get my datasheets from these two web sites:

http://www.maxim4u.com/

http://www.alldatasheet.com/

You can just pull the LCD however finding just the right ribbon socket can be hard, so the only part I need from the circuit board to use this COG LCD else where is the ribbon socket. (Inside the yellow rectangle) I do this by placing my large soldering iron on the back of the circuit board and when the solder melts I lift off the socket.

Step 5: TN STN and FSTN Liquid Crystal Display Modules (LCD Modules)

TN STN and FSTN LCD Modules vary in appearance but most have similar pin outs, these pin outs should operate most TN STN and FSTN LCD modules.

10, 12, 14, and 16 Pin
8x1, 8x2, 10x1, 10x4, 16X1, 16X2, 16x4, 20x2, 20x4, 24x2, 40x2 LCD

PIN      SYMBOL      FUNCTION
1             VSS          0 Volts Ground
2             VDD         +3 or +5 Volts Power Supply
3              VO           Contrast Adjustment
4              RS           Register Select Signal L = Instruction H = Data
5             R/W          Read/Write Select Signal L = Write H = Read
6               E             Enable Signal
7             DB0          Data Bus
8             DB1          Data Bus
9             DB2          Data Bus
10           DB3          Data Bus
11           DB4          Data Bus
12           DB5          Data Bus
13           DB6          Data Bus
14           DB7          Data Bus
15          A/Vee        Backlight Anode +4.2 Volts
16             K             Backlight Cathode Power Ground

Step 6: Testing 16X2 TN, STN, FSTN 16 Pin LCD Modules

I use Arduino to test the modules and check the functions to make sure they work properly, this is the hookup and code for the 16x2, 16 pin LCD.

You can copy and paste the code below into sketch:

/*
  LiquidCrystal Library - Hello World

Demonstrates the use a 16x2 LCD display.  The LiquidCrystal library works with all LCD displays that are compatible with the
Hitachi HD44780 driver. There are many of them out there, and you can usually tell them by the 16-pin interface.

This sketch prints "Hello World!" to the LCD
and shows the time.

  The circuit:
* LCD RS pin to digital pin 12
* LCD Enable pin to digital pin 11
* LCD D4 pin to digital pin 5
* LCD D5 pin to digital pin 4
* LCD D6 pin to digital pin 3
* LCD D7 pin to digital pin 2
* LCD R/W pin to ground
* 10K resistor:
* ends to +5V and ground
* wiper to LCD VO pin (pin 3)

Library originally added 18 Apr 2008
by David A. Mellis
library modified 5 Jul 2009
by Limor Fried (http://www.ladyada.net)
example added 9 Jul 2009
by Tom Igoe
modified 22 Nov 2010
by Tom Igoe

This example code is in the public domain.

http://www.arduino.cc/en/Tutorial/LiquidCrystal

*/

// include the library code:
#include <LiquidCrystal.h>

// initialize the library with the numbers of the interface pins
LiquidCrystal lcd(12, 11, 5, 4, 3, 2);

void setup() {
  // set up the LCD's number of columns and rows:
  lcd.begin(16, 2);
  // Print a message to the LCD.
  lcd.print("hello, world!");
}

void loop() {
  // set the cursor to column 0, line 1
  // (note: line 1 is the second row, since counting begins with 0):
  lcd.setCursor(0, 1);
  // print the number of seconds since reset:
  lcd.print(millis()/1000);
}

Step 7: Code for the 16x1 LCD

Using Arduino to test the 16x1 modules and check the functions; I found that the 16x2 code needed to be modified because the IC looked at the 16x1 LCD as two lines and all you see is the first eight segments of the display.

This is the code for the 16x1 14 and 16 pin LCD.

/* 

LiquidCrystal Library - Hello World

Demonstrates the use a 16x1 LCD display; the LiquidCrystal library works with all LCD displays that are compatible with the Hitachi HD44780 driver. There are many of them out there, and you can usually tell them by the 16-pin interface however these are 16x1 LCD, 14 pin interface. 

This sketch prints "Hello World!" to the 16x1 LCD.

*/

// include the library code:
#include <LiquidCrystal.h>

// initialize the library with the numbers of the interface pins
LiquidCrystal lcd(12, 11, 5, 4, 3, 2);

void setup() {

// set up the LCD's number of columns and rows:
  lcd.begin(8, 2);     //is 16x1, adressed as 8x2
  lcd.setCursor(0,1);  //init right hand side
  lcd.home();          //back to start
  lcd.clear();
  // Print a message to the LCD.
  lcd.print("hello wo");  //print left side
  lcd.setCursor(0,1);     //go to right
  lcd.print("rld!");      //print right side
  //blinking cursor
  lcd.cursor();
  lcd.blink();

}

void loop() {

}

Step 8: Testing 16X1 TN, STN, FSTN 14 Pin LCD Modules

Using Arduino to test the 16x1 modules and check the functions I used this hookup and code for the 16x1 14 pin LCD.

You can copy and paste the code below into sketch:

/* 

LiquidCrystal Library - Hello World

Demonstrates the use a 16x1 LCD display; the LiquidCrystal library works with all LCD displays that are compatible with the Hitachi HD44780 driver. There are many of them out there, and you can usually tell them by the 16-pin interface however these are 16x1 LCD, 14 pin interface. 

This sketch prints "Hello World!" to the 16x1 LCD.

*/

// include the library code:
#include <LiquidCrystal.h>

// initialize the library with the numbers of the interface pins
LiquidCrystal lcd(12, 11, 5, 4, 3, 2);

void setup() {

// set up the LCD's number of columns and rows:
  lcd.begin(8, 2);     //is 16x1, adressed as 8x2
  lcd.setCursor(0,1);  //init right hand side
  lcd.home();          //back to start
  lcd.clear();
  // Print a message to the LCD.
  lcd.print("hello wo");  //print left side
  lcd.setCursor(0,1);     //go to right
  lcd.print("rld!");      //print right side
  //blinking cursor
  lcd.cursor();
  lcd.blink();

}

void loop() {

}

Step 9: Testing 16X1 TN, STN, FSTN 10 Pin LCD Modules

Using Arduino to test the 16x1 10 pin modules again I found a few differences; the same code used for the 16x1 14 pin is used for the 10 pin LCD, this is the hookup and code for the 16x1 10 pin LCD.

/* 

LiquidCrystal Library - Hello World

Demonstrates the use a 16x1 LCD display; the LiquidCrystal library works with all LCD displays that are compatible with the Hitachi HD44780 driver. There are many of them out there, and you can usually tell them by the 16-pin interface however these are 16x1 LCD, 14 pin interface. 

This sketch prints "Hello World!" to the 16x1 LCD.

*/

// include the library code:
#include <LiquidCrystal.h>

// initialize the library with the numbers of the interface pins
LiquidCrystal lcd(12, 11, 5, 4, 3, 2);

void setup() {

// set up the LCD's number of columns and rows:
  lcd.begin(8, 2);     //is 16x1, adressed as 8x2
  lcd.setCursor(0,1);  //init right hand side
  lcd.home();          //back to start
  lcd.clear();
  // Print a message to the LCD.
  lcd.print("hello wo");  //print left side
  lcd.setCursor(0,1);     //go to right
  lcd.print("rld!");      //print right side
  //blinking cursor
  lcd.cursor();
  lcd.blink();

}

void loop() {

}

Step 10: Salvaging Other LCDs

This graphic LCD has everything needed to reuse it in a project.

It just unplugged from the rest of the electronics.

The driver is on the circuit board.

And the hookup is function labeled.

However not all LCDs are this easy to salvage.

Step 11: Salvaging a Compact Disk Player LCD Display

This circuit board came from a compact disk player; I start by tracing out the circuitry and looking up the LCD driver IC. The IC is a PT6533 general purpose LCD driver this part is important and it makes salvaging the LCD easier, other than the backlight LEDs the driver and the LCD are separate from the push button switches. Now I know what I need to cut away from the circuit board to salvage the LCD.

Step 12: Preparing the Circuit Board

Now that I know what I want from the circuit board, I start by desoldering all the unwanted components and removing the components. I desolder by melting the soldered joint with my 35 watt soldering iron and taping the edge of the circuit board on my work bench, casting off the molten solder.

Next I mark the conductors I want by color code and remove all the unwanted circuitry by scraping the conductors with a utility knife.

White for data input
Yellow for clock
Blue for clear enable
Black for ground 0 volts
Red for 5 volts the LED backlight
Orange for 3.3 volts IC power

Step 13: Cutting Out the LCD

Be careful during this part; safety glasses and heavy leather gloves, while I was shaping this circuit board the dremel jumped and hit my hand cutting my thumb through the leather gloves causing me to get three stiches. It would have been worse had I not been wearing the gloves.

After removing the unwanted circuitry I cut the circuit board to the shape I want with my dremel leaving a tab for mounting the LCD.

Step 14: Adding the Wiring Harness

I start by selecting a six wire; wiring harness with wires color coded the same as I marked the conductors.

White for data input
Yellow for clock
Blue for clear enable
Black for ground 0 volts
Red for 5 volts the LED backlight
Orange for 3.3 volts IC power

I scrape clean the ends of the conductors and solder the white wire to the white conductor and so on until all six wires are soldered to the circuit board.

Although the wires are soldered in place with movement they can break free from the circuit board. To prevent this I glue the wires in place with Goop glue and wait 24 hours before testing.

Step 15: Testing the New LCD

Many of the members at Instructables and our visitors use Arduino and Raspberry Pi for their projects. I connected the new LCD to my Arduino UNO, the LED backlights work but I am still working on the Arduino code to run serial input LCDs.

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335 Discussions

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Juan ManuelT4
Juan ManuelT4

Question 26 days ago on Step 15

hola amigo: tengo una consulta para hacerte:
de una impresora Epson tx235 rescate un lcd muy chico con 20 pines y quisiera reutilizarla en un proyecto de arduino. te dejo las imagenes para que veas la pantalla y me digas si se puede hacer algo con ella. muchas gracias por todo.

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Josehf Murchison
Josehf Murchison

Reply 23 days ago

Mi español es muy limitado, así que me tomó un poco traducir.
Algunos de los pines están marcados y puedo leerlos todos.
¿Es esta la misma pantalla LCD?

Epson LCD.jpg
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Juan ManuelT4
Juan ManuelT4

Reply 22 days ago

Es muy similar.
la tuya dice: "GPM1149A2" y la que tengo yo dice: "GPM1149A0"

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nerd80
nerd80

2 months ago

Hi Josehf,
I love to read about people with a passion for salvaging items. I have loads of components I have salvaged and even fixed a few electronic devices which is very satisfying. Most LCDs I salvage are the standard 16x2 which are fairly straightforward but I have one that I am struggling with. It was removed from an Avaya 5410 desk phone and it has a 22 pin interface with 6 buttons on the PCB.
I have powered it up to do some live reverse engineering and even made a small interface board with patch leads and unplugged them one by one and observed the behaviour. However even with the data I don't really know where to go next. Is this something you might be able to give me some pointers on? Or if it is even worth pursuing?

I have attached a csv file of my findings.

Regards,
Shane

IMG_1162.JPGIMG_1163.JPGIMG_1520.JPGavaya 5410.jpg
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Josehf Murchison
Josehf Murchison

Reply 2 months ago

It looks like you have the pins figured out.
If you look at a data sheet for an LCD it should have a binary code chart like this.
You can use a binary counter on the data inputs and record and compare to other LCDs data sheets to find a driver.

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nerd80
nerd80

Reply 2 months ago

Thank you for the reply Josehf and glad I am on the right track. I will check out the data pins.

Cheers!

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misterxp
misterxp

2 months ago

Great instructable! I think the aim is to inspire others to follow idea and explore
not to find solutions for others

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Franciscodr
Franciscodr

6 years ago

Hi Josehf!

Great review! Very useful!

I just savaged a Brother multifunction printer dcp j315w and it has several interesting hardware.
I started to investigate with the 1.9inch Color Display as it looks very interesting for some microcontroller projects:

https://plus.google.com/photos/113603480076234681325/albums/5978088944801144417?authkey=COWApbHcoY_eeA

The problem is that I didn't find any documentation with the numbers that are on it...

It is also mounted on a case with a little PCB SMD circuit that looks like an interface... Could you tell me how I can figure out how to interface it? Thanks in advance!
Francisco

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Josehf Murchison
Josehf Murchison

Reply 6 years ago on Introduction

CMC2P0410 is the part number.

OK when I Google CMC2P0410 I get lots of pages to buy a new one.

Unfortunately I could not find a datasheet on the LCD.

The circuit the ribbon goes to from the LCD is the one you need to trace its inputs to the ribbon.

To find the value of the part or the part number for many of the SMDs you will need these Code Books.

Once you know the transistor you are looking for, these are the web sites I use for datasheets.

http://www.maxim4u.com/

http://www.alldatasheet.com/

For SMD ICs like SN74LS595 you may need to enter MM74LS595 in the search on the websites.

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Franciscodr
Franciscodr

Reply 2 months ago

Wow! Sorry for my late late answer.
And many thanks for all the information and links.
To be frankly, I need to dig to find that LCD now, but it's somewhere I'm sure ;-)
Anyway, thanks for the code books! I knew about the transistors' ones, but not about the SMD, so great finding here!

Many thanks!

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Nasem prince
Nasem prince

Reply 6 years ago on Introduction

hiii joshef !!
how r u man !!
and its very useful and amazing that u share with us thanx !!
I saw some where that somebody make normal lcd screen to a crystal screen !!
how they do that ???

if u know about that so plz share with us !!
thax once more

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Josehf Murchison
Josehf Murchison

Reply 6 years ago on Introduction

I can only guess since I did not see the project you are speaking of, so my guess is they made a custom module for a graphic LCD.

They ether reverse engineered the original driver as in this Instructable

https://www.instructables.com/id/Reverse-Engineering-1/

Or they did a live reverse engineering and built there own module.

The third thing they could have done is reprogrammed the original driver.

This is of course I am assuming they used a single purpose LCD.

Joe

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Franciscodr
Franciscodr

Reply 6 years ago on Introduction

Thanks Josehf!

I found already those websites selling this part, but non of them have the datasheet on PDF (!).

It looks like I have to test the LCD working with the main board if it is still possible and sniff the data through the ribbon: http://hackaday.com/2012/05/21/salvaged-lcd-screen-hacking/ (I tried to make it work just power supply+main board+LCD but nothing happened. I will check if I still have around the keyboard for power on/off). UPDATE: the cable for the keyboard is broken :-(

Attached you have a picture of the main board and a detail about the LCD connector at the main board, maybe it can help... 

The other way is try to disassemble the LCD from the little case it has, so I can see which IC it has... I tried already but it looks like it's glued or attached in a way that make it difficult, or even it can be broken... any other idea?

Kind regards,
Francisco

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Ilike2code
Ilike2code

Question 3 months ago

Hi Josehf

I salvaged an LCD from an old media player I had. It looks very similar to the one in the last example. I have been able to connect it to an Arduino and get the backlight to turn on. However, I am having trouble programming it, since i'm not sure if it is compatible with the LiquidCrystal library and only has 1 data pin.
Can you help?

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Josehf Murchison
Josehf Murchison

Reply 3 months ago

A pic always helps with a pic.
If it is the one I am thinking of I got that one going with a serial data input. it should be in the Arduino codes.

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Ilike2code
Ilike2code

Reply 3 months ago

Hi Josehf,
Thanks for the quick response!
I'm a beginner to using arduino, so I may need a little more help

1st:
Wire placements

I have:
Data Input in 4
Clock in 12
Clear Enable in 11
Ground in Gnd
5 volts in 5v
3.3 volts in 3.3v

Are these the correct places?

2nd:
Can you give me a sample program to use and test?
I am very much a beginner at programming Arduino so I need a lot of help

Sorry for the inconvenience

Thanks again!!

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Ilike2code
Ilike2code

Reply 2 months ago

**UPDATE**

I have found that this display is a 14-segment alphanumeric lcd display

I have tried different programs, but instead of showing things on the screen,
the backlight changes color?

I'm really not sure what is going on.

Can anyone help?

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alarmabg
alarmabg

5 months ago on Step 9

hello if you are interested in such 16x1 displays i can send you a quantity of them 100 pcs. for about $ 1 apiece...