WIRING THE COILS IN 3 PHASES AXIAL FLUX GENERATORS

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Intro: WIRING THE COILS IN 3 PHASES AXIAL FLUX GENERATORS

There are a lot of instructions in how to make an AXIAL FLUX GENERATORS, but what they are lacking is a clear explanation on HOW TO WIRE THE COILS. I know that because I have been researching about the theme, and it was a hard work.  When at last  I figured out how the COILS ARE WIRED, I made these schematic drawings, which I now share with all of you, specially those that like me do not know anything about electricity or electronics but are willing to learn and to make.  If you need to use these eschmas and drawings please feel free to use them, just give me the credits.  So they say a picture is worth a Thousand words.

If you enjoy this work or it helped you in any way, please value it.

I have specials thanks to a friend that was very inspiring to me, with his educational videos in YOUTUBE. 

MUDDY please keep smiling and the good work you do.

Step 1: The Beggining of the Coils Go Here

Remember this is just an illustrative Schema of where each coil go.
The beggining of the coil is the end from which you began to wind your coil,
the ending of your coil is where you finished your winding..

Step 2: The Ending of the Lasts Coils Go Here

The ending end of the third coil of each PHASE go to the ending termilals of the Phases

Step 3: THE COMPLETE WIRING

THIS IS THE COMPLETE WIRING OF THE COILS
and the hard part to understand.

Pay close attention to this and look at the DIAGRAMS


The beggining of the first coil in Phase 1 goes to the beggining terminal of Phase 1
The ending of the first coil in Phase 1 is soldered to beggining ot the second coil in Phase 1
The ending of the second coil in Phase 1 is soldered to beggining ot the third coil in Phase 1
The ending of the third coil in Phase 1 goes to the ending terminal of Phase 1

The beggining of the first coil in Phase 2 goes to the beggining terminal of Phase 2
The ending of the first coil in Phase 2 is soldered to beggining ot the second coil in Phase 2
The ending of the second coil in Phase 2 is soldered to beggining ot the third coil in Phase 2
The ending of the third coil in Phase 2 goes to the ending terminal of Phase 2

The beggining of the first coil in Phase 3 goes to the beggining terminal of Phase 3
The ending of the first coil in Phase 3 is soldered to beggining ot the second coil in Phase 3
The ending of the second coil in Phase 3 is soldered to beggining ot the third coil in Phase 3
The ending of the third coil in Phase 3 goes to the ending terminal of Phase 3


This was hard to figure out, but with a little thinking... and Gods Illumination to whom I thank, this work was done..

Thanks for reading, If you have doubts please leave a message.

There are some other diagrams I am working on that will be posted later

This is a Link to a Video that was made by my friend Muddy in YouTube about these drawings.  This Instructable was missing it please check it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61EIQUAZfoA&feature=relmfu

HEY, THANK YOU FOLKS 1000 VIEWS WERE PASSED

From This point we can have two types of circuits

STAR CIRCUIT
DELTA CIRCUITS

The difference between them is that in The STAR wiring Circuits you get more voltage with less rotation ( Depending on Wind Speed or Stream Water Current Flow or other media that occurs to you that could get the the axial flux to rotate), but also get less amps. In the Delta Circuits you get more amps but less voltage and need higher rotational speed to produce electricity.

To have a STAR CIRCUIT you need to short the 3 Beginning Connecting Terminals

The DELTA Connection I have not figured out yet.   ANY SUGESTIONS HERE

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    JayB199

    Question 2 months ago

    rethink this u have a motor motor is no diffrent then genarator, why i say this, a genarator takes low amout of power and dumps into the head to start a megnet feld, wireing is noting for one reson we get elec devices to control this, so how gen work it has a circert that makes a megnet feld, now how can we do this in 3 ph motor, let say we driveing a motor with hydroic pump, what most dont know about big busness been doing this last 30 years to save on power, what we need is way to dump power in to one of the windings for short amout of time, now we go to motor starter wich all most perfic but we not trying to start the motor or can we, let say i start a 3 phs motor megnect feld set up we cut the power to motor but at same time speed of motor gose up, so how we driveing the motor well consider a tank of hydroic flude about 300 gals of it at bottom huge line going into the pump, this in self would be enouf to keep the motor moveing but we need more, we need pump driven by air, to incress psi, and to also control the speed of the motor so we preshearize the tank we run the motor at 120 percent ack speed now we need get feq and voltage with in specs, most right it very hard get 3 ph in sync so why try we use a trasformer convert it down to 240 at 60hz the ack freq for montor and power become not a probem, i seen these systems work most was installed on huge elavators the motors reqired so much power they did not want pay for it so they did make these systems, at cost of 85k and they made all the power was needed, but times has change and now u find these units on ebay, now what i dont know if the motors they useing on these systems was spichle builds just to make power, or was it something else that made a megnet feld but looking at u wireing dirg one add voltage to one leg to make hole thing make power and voltage can be very low. or simply these kinds of motors was made to make power, but useing same concep one can use a gen head and drive it with hydroics, i happen have a system drives up presher to 65k psi so what size can i not drive but key is to make more power then one is useing and it can be done, there is new devices out that montor over and under voltage conditions, and also over power useage, these devices can be used to proteck such of a setup, in fack i am looking to get such of a hydroic system, there is a 50 hp main motor used to make power at 400 volts, the smaller motor on top looks like 4 hp, it is 220, it is used to realy get system up and running, now this has inlets and out lets so one can add a bigger pump when u talking so much wait pushing down its like a dam, it will drive the motor, how much u presherize the system can then be computer control, i installed a milatery gen in my home people said was not possable becuase unit had be grouded and noise was so bad over the lines u never run computers, i ran it throw a 3 ph filter at 150 amps, filter removes all nose makes it perfick as far ground loop prob this was fix as well as breaks each line to filter it so ground wire was to ran throw it, as i running 220 not 3 phase was simple to do, lot to consider in this maybe some one other then i can use it

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    Happy2ThinkJayB199

    Answer 2 months ago

    Hello JayB199, I have a friend that has a complete set of videos in youtube teaching on how to construct Dual Permanent Magnet Rotor Axial Flux Wind Turbines and if interested also makes the Helix to make it work.

    Here is the link to the first of his videos on the theme. Hope this will help you and to figure it out. This type of Magnet Rotors can be used with other powering sources like running water, or even moved by an Stirling Engine. Thank you for writing and being interested in my work. Actually I did these graphics to help my friend Muddy with his presentations.

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    LynnB61

    2 years ago

    http://www.thedoityourselfworld.com/Windmill-And-Generator-Construction-Details-And-Facts.php

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    malexiou2

    3 years ago on Introduction

    hello good connections>

    any idea how we can connect this to the bridge rectifier to get DC power

    tnks

    e.alexiou

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    Happy2Thinkmalexiou2

    Reply 3 years ago on Introduction

    I am sorry, I have not been active for quite a while, and I am just starting to check my projects because I am thinking on posting antoher one.

    Answering your questions, you can look in youtube in the channel of

    muddymuddymudman, he has a lot of instructives about axial flux generators

    Hope this helps

    Carlos Arguello

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    Happy2Think

    5 years ago on Introduction

    Hi Guzzi_Gerard,
    Thanks for all the information you have sent me, I have enjoyed it and learned a lot from it.

    You dont bother me when you write to me and send me all this information, and dont get me misunderstood that I underestimate the fact that the device is human powered, we need to do excersises and will make a nice devoce for many pepople.

    About th Fisher & Paykel motor, yes it makes a fantastic generator, but in my country I dont know where to get that motor in particular. If there is any source that we can get them or buy them, please send me that information. I will aprreciate, because it has many advantages. It is alreadey made as a generator with the magnets and all allready in places.

    You can also write to me at my mail: happy2think@gmail.com and I would appreciate having your mail too.

    God Bless you

    Carlos Arguello

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    guzzi_gerard

    5 years ago on Introduction

    Yes, this youtube movie is human powered. But the Fisher & Paykel motor makes a fantastic generator with 1 Watt per rpm up to 1.8 kW! They are NASA-engineered, the latest versions are decogged, and can be changed to alternative voltages and currents with some effort.
    What is so fantastic about 'pedal-power' video is the schemes he is displaying for different configurations. So for example, the fourth scheme is a configuration in which you at low windspeeds don't use all the coils (a too heavy load for the wind at that moment if all were used), so despite the low wind but because of the lighter load it will start to spin and generate at that lower windspeed.
    When the wind gets stronger the other coils are connected and you'll get more power off the generator while keeping the voltage at the same level as well as the rpm's of you windrotor. It is possible to put two of those generators at one windmill (They can be lifted by ONE hand) and let them start to generate at different windspeeds. So controlling your load on the windmill, the voltage (RPM), and currents.
    With two generators easily and robust 3,5 kW. With the possibility to get the mill rotating at low speed because of the first generator you only let a part get connected in (See scheme 4) and they are decogged. And the same can be done with the second generator, third....Even for breaking. That gives a fantastic possibility of controling the windturbine.
    The F&P-motor/generator is very solid, very well engineered (NASA) and they can be purchased for very economic prices, about $25-40 dollars, because they were used in washing machines! Unbelievable. So, if some damage happens to the windturbine you can easily changes the generators. Serious, long-time small turbine builders are in love with this motor/generator.
    Also take a look at the videos of "PowerSpout" of EcoInnovation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLzHr0Qntgo).
    At yourgreendream (http://www.yourgreendream.com/diy_fp_rewire2.php) there is even a setup available for start/delta connection!

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    Hoi Happy2Think,
    This is my last message to you. After this one, don't be afraid of bothering you again.

    Good luck!
    Gerard

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    guzzi_gerard

    5 years ago on Introduction

    Combination of Star and Delta: http://www.yourgreendream.com/diy_fp_rewire2.php

    We used to have a compressor. Started up in Star, once running switched to Delta.

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    I think it is a nice device on the same line of the axial flux generator, just this is human powered targeted machine. Nice thread.

    Tahnk you

    Hi Guzzi_Gerard, I am sorry I had not answered you comments but I have been away from my computer. Thanks for the Threads I think I will have some time over the holidays to look at them. I just taked a peek and it seems to be very interesting material

    God bless u

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    guzzi_gerard

    5 years ago on Introduction

    Hello,
    Below, at the end, some threads to PowerSpout, a very interesting and serious video made by professional electricians about a type of washing machine motor very suitable for using as a generator.
    Maybe you don't want to buy a 'ready to fit' generator but build one on your own. Then you don't need to read further. I don't know so I thought I send you this information.

    It is the direct drive motor on the spine of the washing machine (no use of a belt). Just came across it on a Dutch site for DIY wind turbines.

    Smartdrives, are made by 'Fisher and Paykel', and are used in: 'Fisher and Paykel', 'Whirlpool', 'Maytag' en 'LG'. It's a pity that they we're allready sold 20 years ago in Asia, but only since about 2007 in the rest of the world. Maybe they can be purchased at 'Fisher and Paykel'. See the threads at the end.

    A Dutch expert for small windturbines, (I'm from Holland (Amsterdam)) building them all around the world talks about using a asynchrone motor. You need to change the rotor to permanent magnets.

    Did you know that the hub of a electric driven (aided) bicycle is also very suitable. Such as this one: http://www.goldenmotor.com/

    Smartdrive washing machines:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLzHr0Qntgo&list=UUTNHVfBx37Bgqw9fpsy2UUw&index=8
    Original manufacturer: http://www.fisherpaykel.com/product/laundry/washing-machine/
    And to modify them to DC:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVR6UBCIRFs&list=UUTNHVfBx37Bgqw9fpsy2UUw&index=6
    Also:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUmDvENKPig

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    guzzi_gerard

    5 years ago on Introduction

    If you look at the Blog of Hugh Piggot you can find a very nice scheme and simulation. I can not put a thread here because it is on his Blog.

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    Thanks guzzi_gerard, for these threads I will look into them.
    also if you need a nice practical explanation on how to build one of the axial flux generators look into the channel of muddymuddymuddman in youtube he takes you by the hand and shows step by step how to build it.
    Here is the kink of the introduction to build an dual axial flux wind turbine
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pVYworg8t4
    hope you enjoy it

    God Bless you

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    guzzi_gerard

    5 years ago on Introduction

    Some other threads. Like you I found it difficult to find good explanations and schemes. But all of a sudden I ran into some very good ones which had links to eachother. I pose them here because I hope you find them useful.
    Good luck!

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    Thanks to you again, I already look up the threads you gave to me and found them very useful. Thanks again

    And God Bless You

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    guzzi_gerard

    5 years ago on Introduction

    Hugh Piggott, Dan Bartmann, and Ed Lenz all have well-designed wind turbine projects that offer the beginner an excellent start.

    DIY Projects
    Hugh Piggott www.scoraigwind.com
    Dan Bartmann www.otherpower.com
    Ed Lenz www.windstuffnow.com
    The Backshed www.thebackshed.com/Windmill

    Scientific Research
    Sandia National Labs www.sandia.gov/wind/
    NREL www.nrel.gov/wind/
    UIUC Airfoil Data www.ae.uiuc.edu/m-selig/
    ECN (Dutch) www.ecn.nl/en/

    Electrical Theory
    All About Circuits www.allaboutcircuits.com/
    FEMM (Magnet Models) www.femm.foster-miller.net/index.html

    Commercial Wind Turbine Manufacturers
    Bergey Windpower www.bergey.com/
    Southwest WindPower www.windenergy.com/
    Jacobs www.windturbine.net/
    Windmission www.windmission.dk/index.html
    Marlec www.marlec.co.uk/products/products.htm
    Flowtrac www.nimnet.asn.au/~kali/
    African Windpower www.scoraigwind.com/african36/
    AeroMax aeromag.com/

    Wind Energy Associations and Watchdogs
    AWEA