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When HEAT TREATING, use a magnet on the red hot blade. The steel needs to get NON MAGNETIC. Heat the blade till the magnet does not stick. USE A MAGNET ON AND EXTENDABLE SHAFT !! Remember this RED HOT steel is REALLY hot !! The temperature for NON MAGNETIC STEEL is 1400 to 1500 degrees F !!! when the magnet no longer sticks to the metal, quench it.