MSMGP Instructions and Review

Introduction: MSMGP Instructions and Review

About: I used to build with K'nex. Now I am an infantryman serving at Fort Irwin, CA.

IMPORTANT: Please tell me what you thoughts are about the background, blurry pictures aside. I Like this one a bit better, as the light seems good. However, I would be interested in you opinion.

When I first saw Lucas the Boss's Magnum Sub Machine Gun Pistol (Long name), I knew I had to build it. Lucas posted some good internal pics, and I really liked the gun, so I am giving you guys instructions and review. After this I will be working on building my own guns, but if someone wants me to review/post there gun, I have quite a bit of time on my hands, and so you probably will get it.

So, lets get to the review! Make sure to favorite, comment, and subscribe!

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Step 1: MSMGP Review.

First off, Looks: This is the real reason I love the gun. It looks like a AR, but in pistol/SMG form. It also has a nice fake barrel, which really contributes to the looks. The handle looks great, and so does the 6th and 7th layers. The mag is the right length. I dunno, I can see some cool knex guns, and think they look nice, but this in particular, really stuck out to me. Nice looking mag too. All in all, Lucas hit a home run with the looks. So... go and subscribe to him if you are not already.

Comfort: Frankly, I thought I would hate the handle. Before building this, I thought that handles made up with two parallel yellow connectors would be awful. I found differently. It IS a tad too big, but the comfort is quite good for me, and if you have bigger hands it should be great. One could hold it with one hand, but I prefer two. The natural position for my left hand is the magwell, and there is a blue rod sticking out there, but not too bad.

Trigger: Despite Lucas saying that it was very hard to pull, with two #64's it is fine, provided that you tape the trigger. the pin also blocked very far back. Too far back, in fact, because it was very easy to pull it out, As I wrote the part on looks, I was pulling the pin back, it came out of the gun and slapped me on the hand. Ow. Not having a pin lock is my biggest gripe with the gun.

Range: About the same as Lucas said. With two #64's it shot 40 feet, not too bad. This should be good enough for a indoor war.

Capacity: The mag holds 12 rounds, but I found that the mag pusher will not stay in the mag with more then ten rounds. Still, quite good.

Accuracy: Pretty good, I found that it shoots very high at close range, but that is fine for medium ranges, as you will not have to angle your shot as much to make it hit. Grey connectors being hit out of a mag is not the best for accuracy, but this was good enough to have fun with.

Strength: Impressive! The whole gun is very sturdy, except for the fake barrel, but those are almost always a bit wobbly. Just in using the gun, it is no problem. It will not flop around with normal use, but a drop spells doom for it. As I said, impressive. A very solid weapon.

Sights: The sights were great, and served the gun well, but I thought they looked too high, so I gave it some lower profile sights.

Build Quality: Very good, it seems like Lucas took his time to think through the gun, however, I do find the back of the gun to seem thrown together. Also, the magwell is awesome, as the mag does not need tape to stay in, nor does it have a lock. it just fits right in, so it is easy to remove or insert, but does not fall out when shooting.

Reliability: This is one of the good point on the gun, as it has never jammed, per se, but once or twice there has been an epic fail where the mag would fail or something, making it mess up. No parts got broken off, I just had to reload.

Step 2: Analysis

Shooter? Nope. Deadly war weapon? Nope. Awesome looking? Yeppers. Incredibly fun to shoot? Sure thing.

While I don't really see myself building this again for the shooting quality, it looks really good, is quite comfortable, and does not take that much time or pieces to build. It looks epic, and it can shoot. It is very reliable, so no worries about lots of jams. In short, I love this gun, and it is Corgi approved. Do I really need to say what may happen if you don't build it?

Step 3: Part List

Green rods: 193

White rods: 58

Blue rods: 19

Yellow rods: 2

Pink flexy rod: 1

Red rod: 1

Black rod: 1

Yellow connectors: 79

White connectors: 16

Blue 3d's: 8

Green connectors: 8

Orange connectors: 31

Grey connectors: 5

Red connectors: 30

Black hinge halves: 2

Full hinge: 1

Y clips: 10

Blue clips: 3

Tan clips: 2

Grey clips: 13

Blue spacers: 5

#64 bands: 3

Thin bands: 2

Cut white rods: 5

TOTAL: 497

Step 4: Build a Body Workshop

In this step you will be building the body of the gun. Good luck, and comment or PM if you have any issues. Read all the image notes.

Step 5: Handle.

Build it. Now.

Step 6: Mag.

Build it, ok?

Step 7: Pin, Bands, and Back Sight

Just what the title says.

Step 8: Use

Load the mag with grey clips, put the mag in the gun, pull the pin back and pull the trigger. Repeat until you reload, as it is so fun to shoot you will want to shoot more then just ten rounds.

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    13 Discussions

    sonic broom
    sonic broom

    5 years ago on Introduction

    On the pictures i think that they need some more color if you gun is made with metallics then maybe it would be good to take a picture with something that contrast it nicely. green grass would work but since you have no green grass at this time it looks kind of dim everything is sort of gray and black. i know in one picture there is some snow but it still doesn't give the right feel. the pictures are fine but thats just my opinion. also having all those other pictures of other guns is kind of distracting. but the review is very good nice and detailed better than anything i could write up.


    Reply 5 years ago on Introduction

    Thanks for your thoughts, later I can remove the other pictures of the guns. Perhaps I should try a white background next.

    Lucas The Boss
    Lucas The Boss

    5 years ago

    lol here are the before and after pics, just happened to find that pic on my phone.

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    Reply 5 years ago on Introduction

    You don't like the rifle? it looks amazing, I like it.

    Lucas The Boss
    Lucas The Boss

    Reply 5 years ago

    The barrel just seemed to fat, I was kind of afraid that if I posted it, if get a lot of hate comments. It is kind of like taking a smokin hot bikini model and putting a triple chin on her lol.


    Reply 5 years ago on Introduction

    Wow, that looks great! I think I prefer the pistol version. Did the rifle shoot better due to the larger ammo? I think heavy ammo would help it shoot more to point of aim.

    Lucas The Boss
    Lucas The Boss

    Reply 5 years ago on Introduction

    You actually like it, I hated it, just did not look like my standered. It did shoot considerably better with a max of 70 feet but was super un accurate. It was also very flimsy compared to my MSMGP. Overall I was much happier with my MSMGP than v1.

    Nice review and instructions Corgi and well done for adding a parts list like I do in my instructables. I really can't wait for you to review my creations and I have put this in my favourites so I will remember to build this later on in the year.

    Lucas The Boss
    Lucas The Boss

    5 years ago

    Thank you so much for building it!!!!!! That metallic wrap is quite smexy. I am very surprised that the trigger worked so well for you though, when I pull mine it feels like I'm going to break it if I put much more force. You said the back is a little sloppy compared to the front, well I build from the front back, so I'm building and I'm loving how it's looking so I start slapping pieces together to see how it's going to work. I guess I forget to go back and clean it up a bit. I wish I could figure out why it shoots high at close range because I found mine hitting the roof when I shot inside. Favorited!


    Reply 5 years ago on Introduction

    Thanks! Before I put a bit of tape on the trigger, it felt like it was going to break, But just two layers of scotch tape did the trick. As for it shooting high, I have no idea why, but when I increased the pressure on the mag band, it seemed to work a pit better.

    I understand about the back part. On my rifle, it was the front part I left towards the end and it suffered a bit due to that.