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A brief exchange between myself and Whatsisface utterly confused Keith-Kid, the poor bairn.

That reminded me that, as well as the language confusion between English and American (we walk on pavements, you drive on them), there is a deeper, older division.

I am from Cumberland. It's "Cumbria" now, but it's old - many of the town names are Icelandic and Viking in origin. Parts of the county were so insular that neighbouring valleys had different languages. The town of my birth is Workington - the name translates as "The town of the people of Worca" - the town, and the land around it, were a small tribal state, ruled by King Worca.

So, I thought I'd lay down a little challenge.

What do you think these traditional Cumbrian dialect words mean?

Google if you must, but you're probably wasting your time...

  • Thissen - yourself, you
  • Sneck
  • Shillies
  • Hag worm
  • Segs
  • Scrunt
  • Tupping
  • Uppies and downies - Traditional precursor to football. Played at Easter.
  • Whisht - Quiet, be quiet - "Haud your whisht", Be quiet.
  • Tod - Fox. You can also be "on your tod" = alone.

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whatsisface

10 years ago

Tod meaning to be on your tod?

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KitemanKiteman

Reply 10 years ago

I forgot - alone is the English translation. There's an older meaning, from which "alone" was taken.

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whatsisfaceKiteman

Reply 10 years ago

I just realised alone is comprised of a and lone, as in a lone person.

I'm smart, really I am

and I can ride my bike fast.

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Kitemanwhatsisface

Reply 10 years ago

You're getting close - what animal is known for wandering around, alone?

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Kitemanwhatsisface

Reply 10 years ago

No wolves in Cumberland for a few centuries...

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Kitemanwhatsisface

Reply 10 years ago

But not an English teacher. It's nothing to do with daffodils, try John Peel instead.

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whatsisfaceKiteman

Reply 10 years ago

So you didn't get the reference? I wandered lonely as a cloud... etc?

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Kitemanwhatsisface

Reply 10 years ago

It's not cloud, either. You were definitely much closer when you thought "wolf".

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KitemanCameronSS

Reply 10 years ago

He shoots, he eventually scores!

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Kitemanwhatsisface

Reply 10 years ago

Ah, but what is a tod when one is on it?

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Keith-Kid

10 years ago

What's a bairn? *shame*

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crapflinger

10 years ago

kite...you do know that you're single handedly ruining the internet by actually putting something educational on it right? someone post some porn to equalize the balance....QUICK! Thissen would be yourself?

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Kitemancrapflinger

Reply 10 years ago

Correct!
(Did you google?)

As for porn, I suppose one of those words could be taken as rude. Or fun, if you're a sheep.

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crapflingercrapflinger

Reply 10 years ago

hmmm that didn't post right...stupid auto formatting " “Tha’ won’t go in cos’ of an attercop? Tha’s an attercop thissen!”. ~tha: you; thissen: yourself.~ ""

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crapflingerKiteman

Reply 10 years ago

hehe yeah i'd defy anyone to translate that last quote from me about the attercop if i hadn't posted the link to WWWords

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Kitemancrapflinger

Reply 10 years ago

I like the extension - cross-grained people. I know a couple of people like that on this site...

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tomonto

10 years ago

Uppies and downies

elevator?

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Kitemantomonto

Reply 10 years ago

Uppies and downies is a lot older than elevators!

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tomontotomonto

Reply 10 years ago

does it happen to be a historical version of football, dating to Medieval times. all hail the power of teh googlez.

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Kitemantomonto

Reply 10 years ago

On the nose!

Up and Down being directions in a town on a hill. There are no limits on team-size, and matches sometimes last late into the night (the match ends with the first goal), with the ball sometimes only moving inches at a time in the centre of a giant scrum.

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ll.13

10 years ago

Uppies and downies Referring to the social ladder?

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Kitemanll.13

Reply 10 years ago

Certainly a social phenomenon, but wholly working class.

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Weissensteinburg

10 years ago

Segs - A two wheeled method of transportation?

Kite, do you guys have an oil well in your back yard?

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KitemanWeissensteinburg

Reply 10 years ago

Segs are vaguely connected to transport...

Cumberland Farms is just a distributor - I think they may have started as a cooperative.

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Keith-Kid

10 years ago

LOL at the keywords!

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ll.13

10 years ago

Thissen
This one? 'kay, that was probably a total failure.

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Labot2001ll.13

Reply 10 years ago

Nah, you must be confusing Cumbria with the American South.

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KitemanLabot2001

Reply 10 years ago

This'n, meaning "this one" is just modern laziness.

Thissen is pronounced thi-sen - slight emphasis on the second syllable.

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ll.13

10 years ago

Whisht
Shut up (or be quiet)

=D

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ll.13Kiteman

Reply 10 years ago

Did not! I don't live in Scotland for nothing!

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Kitemanll.13

Reply 10 years ago

So I've heard ;-)